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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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SKYjack
post May 25 2024, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ May 25 2024, 10:14 AM)
it went down in 2nd year. and those who observed kluk kluk or some bumpy noise when going over speed bumps or potholes in low speed will go and claim it. and warranty for that part will be extended. at least thats what i got from the club

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outstation FC lol dont mention it. im a speed demon. just know the full tank can be depleted within 200km hahah
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Wow 200KM for full tank is really high. Even my 3 liter salon give more than double that!
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post May 25 2024, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ May 25 2024, 10:16 AM)
2 month more to 3 year.
only replaced flywheel as SC detected it have some noise (tbh i didnt)

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This is what I am concerned about.

A 3 cyl engine is bacially unbalanced due to absence of the 4th power stroke in one cycle. To prevent viabration and rough engine operation the flywheel is built in. It was always bugging me as to what happens in years with wear & tear. Which means the flywheel needs to be replaced.

I'm pretty sure this would be expensive when warrantys void! Need to split the engine for this replacement!

Tks for your input.

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post May 25 2024, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ May 25 2024, 10:45 AM)
This is what I am concerned about.

A 3 cyl engine is bacially unbalanced due to absence of the 4th power stroke in one cycle. To prevent viabration and rough engine operation the flywheel is built in. It was always bugging me as to what happens in years with wear & tear. Which means the flywheel needs to be replaced.

I'm pretty sure this would be expensive when warrantys void! Need to split the engine for this replacement!

Tks for your input.
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which mean you have more concern even without asking owner feedback, then this car shouldn't in your wishlist at all.
Actually apply 'if any doubt, dont buy' can apply on car even home appliance. as all these need to stay with you for years
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post May 25 2024, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ May 25 2024, 10:51 AM)
which mean you have more concern even without asking owner feedback, then this car shouldn't in your wishlist at all.
Actually apply 'if any doubt, dont buy' can apply on car even home appliance. as all these need to stay with you for years
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I am an engineer. My concerns are little deep rooted. The replies i got so far didnt really answer my question. I dont balme any owner cos they will reply only on their experience.

You are right, I have to apply 'dont buy when in doubt'! Tqvm!
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post May 25 2024, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ May 25 2024, 11:15 AM)
I am an engineer. My concerns are little deep rooted. The replies i got so far didnt really answer my question. I dont balme any owner cos they will reply only on their experience.

You are right, I have to apply 'dont buy when in doubt'! Tqvm!
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I see.
because when count in how low the B segment EV pricing. 100K+ actually have tons of choice, can avoid like honda steering rack, x50 cyl/driveshaft, chery broken torsion beam drama.
but again, all these new comer EV still 'new' we dont know their quality, who know we get another chery whistling.gif
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post May 25 2024, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ May 25 2024, 10:23 AM)
Wow 200KM for full tank is really high. Even my 3 liter salon give more than double that!
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outstation im a speedy gonzales hahahah

for LPT KL- Gambang refuel, Gambang to KT near empty

speed >200kmph so not surprising. ive seen better FC if you just cruise around 120kmph~140kmph

but it gets sleepy if you set ICC at that speed lol
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post May 25 2024, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ May 25 2024, 03:54 PM)
outstation im a speedy gonzales hahahah

for LPT KL- Gambang refuel, Gambang to KT near empty

speed >200kmph so not surprising. ive seen better FC if you just cruise around 120kmph~140kmph

but it gets sleepy if you set ICC at that speed lol
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X50 cruising 110+- will get much much better FC. me away cruise on that speed range but me here not highway...so cant 100% maintain that speed
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post May 26 2024, 09:49 AM

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For optimum FC is cruising at 80kmh or 90kmh.. That is why you see so many driving that speed at highway.

btw, how does the flywheel failure sounds like?

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post May 26 2024, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ May 25 2024, 11:25 AM)
I see.
because when count in how low the B segment EV pricing. 100K+ actually have tons of choice, can avoid like honda steering rack, x50 cyl/driveshaft, chery broken torsion beam drama.
but again, all these new comer EV still 'new' we dont know their quality, who know we get another chery  whistling.gif
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I will certainly not go EV. There are so many issues which average jack is not aware, and blindly buying! Cos every one is sold into the idea of less moving parts, therfore less maintenance! This is far from the truth, no engine yes, but still a whole host of moving parts which will experience greater wear & tear than IC cars! In USA huge exodus of EV owners reverting to IC engines after realization!

There is no perfect vehicle. As such my thought now is to pursue the cost of X50 flywheel replacement at non SC. Treat this as part & parcel of major service maintenance at some point.
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post May 26 2024, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ May 26 2024, 11:07 AM)
I will certainly not go EV. There are so many issues which average jack is not aware, and blindly buying! Cos every one is sold into the idea of less moving parts, therfore less maintenance! This is far from the truth, no engine yes, but still a whole host of moving parts which will experience greater wear & tear than IC cars! In USA huge exodus of EV owners  reverting to IC engines after realization!

There is no perfect vehicle. As such my thought now is to pursue the cost of X50 flywheel replacement at non SC. Treat this as part & parcel of major service maintenance at some point.
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wonder how is EV maintenance like, i see mostly these days got lifetime warranty on motor and battery and what not. but how about other stuff lol.

those are like tanks, suspension and tyre most likely is the fastest wear hmm.gif
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post May 26 2024, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ May 26 2024, 04:05 PM)
wonder how is EV maintenance like, i see mostly these days got lifetime warranty on motor and battery and what not. but how about other stuff lol.

those are like tanks, suspension and tyre most likely is the fastest wear hmm.gif
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Brakes as well.
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post May 26 2024, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ May 25 2024, 11:15 AM)
I am an engineer. My concerns are little deep rooted. The replies i got so far didnt really answer my question. I dont balme any owner cos they will reply only on their experience.

You are right, I have to apply 'dont buy when in doubt'! Tqvm!
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This engine has already been in use since 2016. You can search the Chinese forums or groups to see if there are any issues.

A bit difficult to ask local users since Proton only brought this model in recently at the end of 2020.

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SKYjack
post May 27 2024, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ May 26 2024, 10:26 PM)
This engine has already been in use since 2016. You can search the Chinese forums or groups to see if there are any issues.

A bit difficult to ask local users since Proton only brought this model in recently at the end of 2020.

Applications: JLH-3G15TD

2016–present Geely Boyue
2018–present Geely Binyue
2018–present Geely Borui GE
2018–present Lynk & Co 01 / 领克01 badged as 01 PHEV
2018–present Lynk & Co 02 / 领克02 badged as 02 or 02 1.5TD
2018–present Lynk & Co 03 / 领克03 badged as 03 or 03 1.5TD
2020–present Geely Icon
2020–present Proton X50
2020–present Proton X70
2023–present Proton X90

Applications: JLH-3G15T

2020–present Proton X50
2023–present Proton S70
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This is a good idea to get a clear view on the seriousness of this issue.

The fact that many owners agree to the noise & roughness is clear that this issue is present. How serious & when does it need a replacement is the question. Whatever the case, its covered whilst under warranty. Its of great concern to me as I keep a car well after warranty.
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post May 27 2024, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ May 26 2024, 04:05 PM)
wonder how is EV maintenance like, i see mostly these days got lifetime warranty on motor and battery and what not. but how about other stuff lol.

those are like tanks, suspension and tyre most likely is the fastest wear hmm.gif
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Yes you are on the right track. The battery adds substantial weight to the car overall. As a result everything: drive train, suspension, shock absorbers, wheels, tyres, steering rack etc, has to be beefed up. This adds more weight to overall weight. Due to the weight, all items experience heavy load impacts on the road and greater wear & tear than IC vechicles. Initial EV tyres were costing $2500 a piece & do not get as much mileage as IC vehicles. Now there are Korean made EV tyre at $1500.

After 2 years maintenance will shoot up, more than double of an IC vehicle!
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post May 27 2024, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ May 27 2024, 10:22 AM)
Yes you are on the right track. The battery adds substantial weight to the car overall. As a result everything: drive train, suspension, shock absorbers, wheels, tyres, steering rack etc, has to be beefed up. This adds more weight to overall weight. Due to the weight, all items experience heavy load impacts on the road and greater wear & tear than IC vechicles. Initial EV tyres were costing $2500 a piece & do not get as much mileage as IC vehicles. Now there are Korean made EV tyre at $1500.

After 2 years maintenance will shoot up, more than double of an IC vehicle!
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hot damn, thats good clarity. time to see all these after 3 years since China EV wars has started here
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post May 28 2024, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ May 27 2024, 02:23 PM)
hot damn, thats good clarity. time to see all these after 3 years since China EV wars has started here
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I have only pointed out tip of the ice burge! You will be horrified when you learn details.

Hey dont let me spoil your EV dreams. This is only my 2c worth!
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post May 28 2024, 08:58 PM

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May I know if anyone has changed their HU to soundstream HU before? Any reviews ?
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post May 28 2024, 09:43 PM

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Guys this might be dumb but can the Executive variant turn on cruise control, and if yes, how? I keep pressing the button on the steering but nothing happens.
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post May 29 2024, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Mar 13 2024, 01:10 PM)
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Now opening for questions.
Since this is super niche product, price probably floating up and down... So price question will not answered.
(maybe i can type pro and con later)
Issue I found (as for 22/4/2024), 1 month+ using?
- you 100% lost autoparking
- you need thirdparty 360 for 360 to work, otherwise only reverse camera able to tap in. 360 button will stop working, control from HU or trigger by signal/R gear
- digital cluster will be 'forever' stay on red/sport color scheme (ultra minor issue, claimed will solve with future hardware revision)
- unknown bluetooth disconnect issue with my phone (narrowing down to specific music player probably causing the issue) solved by changing player on my phone, probably the app i using have some compatible issue with this specific HU
- little on pricy side
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QUOTE(Voonz @ May 28 2024, 08:58 PM)
May I know if anyone has changed their HU to soundstream HU before? Any reviews ?
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Refer my post? But mine not soundstream but probably same.


QUOTE(contestchris @ May 28 2024, 09:43 PM)
Guys this might be dumb but can the Executive variant turn on cruise control, and if yes, how? I keep pressing the button on the steering but nothing happens.
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Turn on cruise control, then use up down button increase or decrease speed it will lock to the speed.


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post May 29 2024, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 12 2024, 10:35 PM)
Urgh. My x50 develop whistling sound when drive 160kmj above.
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This easily solve.try searching facebook for solutions

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