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David_Yang
post Jan 17 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(LaiN87 @ Jan 17 2021, 12:25 PM)
I don't think making consumer report will help to solve the case. Just my 2 cents.
It's a capitalism world. If you don't take the car, someone else would gladly take so Proton or dealer is milking whatever they can now. Profit is profit.
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And in the capitalist world customer is king. Proton will learn it´s lesson, that is for sure. Now after performing very bad for many years, they enjoy the windfall profit of Geely donating a design masterpiece to them with great technology, so they think they are king. If they think because of that they can treatr customers like shit, good luck!
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post Jan 17 2021, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jan 17 2021, 05:16 PM)
And in the capitalist world customer is king. Proton will learn it´s lesson, that is for sure. Now after performing very bad for many years, they enjoy the windfall profit of Geely donating a design masterpiece to them with great technology, so they think they are king. If they think because of that they can treatr customers like shit, good luck!
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I know what Proton did is not ethical. But same goes to other manufacturers. Mazda Bermaz making sure customer to take the by right optional package as compulsory when buy their car

Skytint which is rather poor with 55% IRR and Mazda carpet for 2.3k. I know people complaint already to Bermaz but no feedback
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post Jan 17 2021, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Jan 17 2021, 09:20 AM)
It’s simple. I’m not paid by them, I don’t work for them. No reason for me to go to that extent to ask so much some more it is their privacy.
So I did my best to give general feedback according to what’s provided. Period.
Again I don’t owe you or anyone anything, this is public forum.
You have a good one.
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Yo bro/sis. I understand your intention is to give advice and maybe we got off the wrong foot. What I was trying to say is that the person was asking for what kind of interest rate he'll get and stated some info such as him having a housing loan.

But your immediate response was suggesting that if a person has a housing loan, better not taking x50 car loan, which was too quick to jump to conclusion in my opinion. After we commented further, you then replied 50% loan will be a burden which comes to my previous question, why did you assume 50% in the first place?

But I do understand your intention was to share your opinion and advice, I was just confused by your statement "If you have house loan, dont take car loan for X50 and then your next statement with assumption 50% loan.

So I hope I get to clear things up and we're cool. You have a good one too.
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post Jan 17 2021, 08:09 PM

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Everyone, my apologies to cause a page long of comments here.

As I said that I just vent my dislike feeling.

For update here.
I'm in the process making down-payment for the deposit.
Insurance has been issued and no plate is ready.
SA will provide the chassis no. on Monday.

I have taken the urban package on my thinking s follows:-

1) If dont accept means maybe have to wait till no sst exemption only can get car, thus I still need to pay 4-6k to top up. If before 2021, I won't accept becoz I was considering car value lost when coming to 2021 but anyhow I didn't get my car before this.

2) Powerboot is nice to have, but for me was not necessary and additionally no kick sensor is the real disappointment. When your hand is lifting many stuff that is where powerboot with kick sensor come handy else I can use my hand, X50 boot is neither heavy or too high for my hand.
Of coz if I want, I was thinking after 1 yr later, then install outside.
To me paying Rm2500 (value I gave Proton) vs outside Rm2000, the only pro here is 5 years warranty.

3) Carpet and sun shade (est. Rm300 vs Proton RM400) , both is something I need, but I was thinking to get medium grade mat like trapo. Now I have to give up until the coil mat need to change. I dont think coil carpet is something can sell easily and nobody will look for it also.

4) SmartTag, before Covid-19, I'm using atleast one or twice a month. My SmartTag is actually quite bad condition, if you are familiar 2nd gen always has problem with it LCD screen. So I take it X50 built-in smartag (est. RM 450 vs Proton Rm600) is not that bad, especially if you crossing Penang 1st bridge. RFID (I do have it on my Honda City) dont get the same amount of discount.

So thanks everyone for your inputs here. I do see as Proton customer here, we feel same here that Proton policy is not par with other brands on customer satisfaction or transparency.

Thinking positively, Proton force sales is stealing est. Rm750, not RM 3500.
If you were install outside will also need around Rm2.7k but one maybe said, outside can get better features and quality which I agreed, unfortunately this is the choice have to make to avoid paying SST.




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post Jan 17 2021, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Jan 16 2021, 02:08 AM)
Agree with you, I wished the x50 comes with AWD but too bad it doesn't as not many malaysians are interested to pay extra for AWD & yes there are a few features in the x50 which is useless to me which I wished I had the option to opt out...sunroof to begin with.

It would have been nice if they had configured the executive & premium specs slightly differently like having AEB on the premium & executive models would be a start instead of putting all those safety features for flagship. Anyways it is what it is, still waiting for my car....
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will kill its bigger brother x70

QUOTE(eichikatsu @ Jan 16 2021, 09:17 AM)
Hehehe femes itu yellow x50.
Such a big modification but on safety features, we can't upgrade so much.
As I seen on youtube, pinoy coolray got build in dashcam, just plug in memory card and it is done. Wish to have that features in x50 x70 as the car have 360° camera

The tech is there.
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QUOTE(exdtan @ Jan 17 2021, 09:13 AM)
Yup that’s the 2 +
then - good quality 360 dashcam with recorder
- ambient light
Bear in mind there’s no way to MOD your car to have a proper working 360 recording without affect your car infotainment system as of now and perhaps til forever.
Air-con you could always bring up the wind speed to reach the back even if there’s no Rear AC.
Suspension tuning is so normal you can ask your mechanic to do it for you so it’s really nothing special as long you willing to fork out abit more.
Not to say these added features are not good but it’s just not essential because China and Philippine have hot weather too but they rarely see them complaining about no Rear AC.
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360 camera doesn't mean you change the camera it will work. the original camera is capable of supporting high resolution. the activation has to be done within the headunit. not by replacing the camera.

the 360 camera has a dvr mode. but kinda useless as it records in fisheye
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post Jan 17 2021, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 17 2021, 09:22 PM)
will kill its bigger brother x70
360 camera doesn't mean you change the camera it will work. the original camera is capable of supporting high resolution. the activation has to be done within the headunit. not by replacing the camera.

the 360 camera has a dvr mode. but kinda useless as it records in fisheye
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If camera hardware given by proton already HD but proton decided to downgrade it with software I am sooooo f disappointed. 😕

Just hope someone can change the software setting to HD, or proton give update to make it HD.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jan 17 2021, 10:33 PM)
If camera hardware given by proton already HD but proton decided to downgrade it with software I am sooooo f disappointed. 😕

Just hope someone can change the software setting to HD, or proton give update to make it HD.
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will kill its big brother x70.
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post Jan 18 2021, 01:27 AM

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Test drive Proton X50 yesterday.

Proton SA says if I order Flagship or the second highest tier, PLUS with a RM3k++ package, I will be prioritised. Can get car in 3 months. If I get standard or third highest spec, PLUS RM3k++ package, can get car in 5 to 6 months. He not happy I looking at the lower spec versions. He says standard spec so far their outlet just got one order fulfilled.

But he says if I DO NOT take package, will take 6 to 8 months for higher two specs, and more than 8 months for lower two package.

What nonsense is it? I ask if he holding the order. He say he don't do that but when car comes will give to others. He says many from September 2020 still not fulfilled.
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post Jan 18 2021, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 18 2021, 01:27 AM)
Test drive Proton X50 yesterday.

Proton SA says if I order Flagship or the second highest tier, PLUS with a RM3k++ package, I will be prioritised. Can get car in 3 months. If I get standard or third highest spec, PLUS RM3k++ package, can get car in 5 to 6 months. He not happy I looking at the lower spec versions. He says standard spec so far their outlet just got one order fulfilled.

But he says if I DO NOT take package, will take 6 to 8 months for higher two specs, and more than 8 months for lower two package.

What nonsense is it? I ask if he holding the order. He say he don't do that but when car comes will give to others. He says many from September 2020 still not fulfilled.
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Is the packages were installed in factory or done in sc? If at Sc no wonder most sc will do it. But if in factory mean they done per batches then sc no power to select which variant without package to choose from?
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post Jan 18 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 18 2021, 09:58 AM)
Is the packages were installed in factory or done in sc? If at Sc  no wonder most sc will do it. But if in factory mean they done per batches then sc no power to select which variant without package to choose from?
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seems its installed at proton appointed 3rd party installers at SC; proton memo was shown at FB page last time
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 18 2021, 10:12 AM)
seems its installed at proton appointed 3rd party installers at SC; proton memo was shown at FB page last time
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Then it is extra money by sc. For sure all sc willing to get customer opted for it for sake of getting the car and warranty
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post Jan 18 2021, 03:17 PM

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Are we supposed to receive SMS booking confirmation from Proton when we book X50? So far i didnt receive any.

Booked on 10th Sept
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post Jan 18 2021, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(LiQuiD @ Jan 18 2021, 03:17 PM)
Are we supposed to receive SMS booking confirmation from Proton when we book X50? So far i didnt receive any.

Booked on 10th Sept
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neither did i
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post Jan 18 2021, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(LiQuiD @ Jan 18 2021, 03:17 PM)
Are we supposed to receive SMS booking confirmation from Proton when we book X50? So far i didnt receive any.

Booked on 10th Sept
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Most of the people will receive SMS booking confirmation, but there are alot of customers did not receive their SMS too. Some of them did not receive the SMS but got their car already. Don't worry so much but you may have to ask your SA for clarification.
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post Jan 18 2021, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 18 2021, 01:27 AM)
Test drive Proton X50 yesterday.

Proton SA says if I order Flagship or the second highest tier, PLUS with a RM3k++ package, I will be prioritised. Can get car in 3 months. If I get standard or third highest spec, PLUS RM3k++ package, can get car in 5 to 6 months. He not happy I looking at the lower spec versions. He says standard spec so far their outlet just got one order fulfilled.

But he says if I DO NOT take package, will take 6 to 8 months for higher two specs, and more than 8 months for lower two package.

What nonsense is it? I ask if he holding the order. He say he don't do that but when car comes will give to others. He says many from September 2020 still not fulfilled.
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Ignore all the promised period. They themselves can't control the allocation. My advise will be look for other SA.
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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ Jan 17 2021, 07:56 PM)
Yo bro/sis. I understand your intention is to give advice and maybe we got off the wrong foot. What I was trying to say is that the person was asking for what kind of interest rate he'll get and stated some info such as him having a housing loan.

But your immediate response was suggesting that if a person has a housing loan, better not taking x50 car loan, which was too quick to jump to conclusion in my opinion. After we commented further, you then replied 50% loan will be a burden which comes to my previous question, why did you assume 50% in the first place?

But I do understand your intention was to share your opinion and advice, I was just confused by your statement "If you have house loan, dont take car loan for X50 and then your next statement with assumption 50% loan.

So I hope I get to clear things up and we're cool. You have a good one too.
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Alright clear and we are cool.
I did also mention the rate that the OP can easily get after that in my first reply not sure if you catch it.

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 17 2021, 09:22 PM)
will kill its bigger brother x70
360 camera doesn't mean you change the camera it will work. the original camera is capable of supporting high resolution. the activation has to be done within the headunit. not by replacing the camera.

the 360 camera has a dvr mode. but kinda useless as it records in fisheye
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Are you sure it’s originally came with HD but Proton hard set to low resolution/quality ?
No one would do that because they could really just change it with lower cost camera to save more during manufacturing process.
And just beating it’s brother model X70 by Camera it’s really nothing.
Again how would you know ?
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post Jan 19 2021, 11:58 AM

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X50 car wash issues.


l suggest new owners read the manual carefully.

Proton specifically mentioned that your pressure cleaner gun should be at least 30 cm from the car surface.
sending to car wash need to be careful also.

I notice the front laser is on the front bumper and if the item is submerged while driving, it will be damaged also.

The leather should only be cleaned by neutral soap and water !
What is neutral soap ?

Proton state that special cleaning agent for cleaning the interior trims .

What is the cleaning agent ?

Wah , a lot of work maintaining new cars !!


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post Jan 20 2021, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(kp93300 @ Jan 19 2021, 11:58 AM)
X50 car wash issues.
l suggest new owners read the manual carefully.

Proton specifically mentioned that your pressure cleaner gun should be at least 30 cm from the car surface.
sending to car wash need to be careful also.

I notice the front laser is on the front bumper and  if the item is submerged while driving, it will be damaged also.

The leather should only be cleaned by neutral soap and water ! 
What is neutral soap ?

Proton state that special cleaning agent for cleaning the interior trims .

What is the cleaning agent ?

Wah , a lot of work maintaining new cars !!
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post Jan 20 2021, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(kp93300 @ Jan 19 2021, 11:58 AM)
X50 car wash issues.
l suggest new owners read the manual carefully.

Proton specifically mentioned that your pressure cleaner gun should be at least 30 cm from the car surface.
sending to car wash need to be careful also.

I notice the front laser is on the front bumper and  if the item is submerged while driving, it will be damaged also.

The leather should only be cleaned by neutral soap and water ! 
What is neutral soap ?

Proton state that special cleaning agent for cleaning the interior trims .

What is the cleaning agent ?

Wah , a lot of work maintaining new cars !!
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use two bucket method with MF wash mitt & PH-neutral shampoo should be fine
no need to use jet pressure washer if not so dirty

for interior, i use Meguiar's MPC, just spray to MF cloth & wipe down the dust, so far so good
you can also use damp MF cloth to clean the interiors

X50 interior is leatherette, not true leather

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