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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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post Jan 12 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 12 2021, 12:58 PM)
even if get car now, cant go anywhere also
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can drive within 10km tongue.gif
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post Jan 12 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jan 12 2021, 11:34 AM)
The factory is in Perak, not Selangor. So no MCO there, only CMCO. But so close to the border, trouble cannot be avoided I guess.
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Many parts are imported from China, so kene thru Klang port. So answer is affected as well
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post Jan 13 2021, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 11 2021, 11:12 PM)
Maybe try 1 tank with eco mode see how far it can go... but now MCO pula  doh.gif

Forester I can clock around 9-12km/l on normal drive, easily 14km/l + on highway, believe this X50 have the potential to be fuel save & also fuel guzzling depending on your foot and driving pattern heavily.

Not sure if you all know, the piston used on this X50 is flat top which should be the most efficient design compared to doom/dish and this may also explain why Carbon Build up don't seems like a thing to this car due to more efficient combustion
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I did try eco mode all the way on last tank in city, abit or highway drink but still average 9.6L. I guess my foot is the one to blame hahaha
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post Jan 13 2021, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 12 2021, 07:04 AM)
That is Turbo engine characteristics. U will get great FC only on highway constant speed while heavy FC for town, spirit driving. And it happen to all manufacturers who jump to small displacement Turbo engine. Compare to NA, it FC not lari too much, highway vs town.

About carbon deposit, i will reserved my view after say 50k km and look from it. As all GDI engine suffer from this. Except Toyota/ Lexus/ Newer VW engine as they put both GDI and port together
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This is very true comparing my 1.5 old alza, both city and highway drive had great FC which I miss it now.
And I had dream last night driving my old Alza while complaining why I canโ€™t overtake someone on the highway.....
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QUOTE(exdtan @ Jan 13 2021, 08:45 AM)
This is very true comparing my 1.5 old alza, both city and highway drive had great FC which I miss it now.
And I had dream last night driving my old Alza while complaining why I canโ€™t overtake someone on the highway.....
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Enjoy ur car bro. U want power but decent fc, take high cc engine, 2.4 - 2.5 NA engine. But pay extra for roadtax, need 6L-7L fully synthetic oil from manufacturers which both cost extra money.

Take small displacement Turbo engine, pay extra fuel. So both got cons respectively. But again, enjoy ur car. 2021 say goodbye to those 150hp and below

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Jan 13 2021, 08:42 AM)
I did try eco mode all the way on last tank in city, abit or highway drink but still average 9.6L. I guess my foot is the one to blame hahaha
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Mine on x70 ckd. Best tried was on 6.9L/100km but confidently 100-120kmh for 350km. Going back, drove trunk road, pass car, lorry, fc give 9.3L/100km based on meter. I keep reset each time refuel
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post Jan 13 2021, 09:25 AM

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anyone kena engine check light on your x50 yet?
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post Jan 13 2021, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Jan 13 2021, 08:45 AM)
This is very true comparing my 1.5 old alza, both city and highway drive had great FC which I miss it now.
And I had dream last night driving my old Alza while complaining why I canโ€™t overtake someone on the highway.....
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If coming from MT car you'll feel the gap even bigger lol

I'm getting 14km/l-16km/l with 2008 1.3MT Myvi
When I drive my sibling's Axia AT, sacrifice a lot in power but FC not too far different at just around 17km/l similar driving style.. I rather have the power

Even my 2016 MT Persona is getting 13-15km/l

If only they bring in the 6MT Binyue here I will definitely take it, even my wife prefer MT
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 13 2021, 10:38 AM)
If coming from MT car you'll feel the gap even bigger lol

I'm getting 14km/l-16km/l with 2008 1.3MT Myvi
When I drive my sibling's Axia AT, sacrifice a lot in power but FC not too far different at just around 17km/l similar driving style.. I rather have the power

Even my 2016 MT Persona is getting 13-15km/l

If only they bring in the 6MT Binyue here I will definitely take it, even my wife prefer MT
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I still retain my old viva elite, 1.0 engine 4 speed auto. Fc is great, worst at 13km/l and best at 18km/l if drove sedately, 90kmh.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 13 2021, 12:57 PM)
I still retain my old viva elite, 1.0 engine 4 speed auto. Fc is great, worst at 13km/l and best at 18km/l if drove sedately, 90kmh.
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Small engine feels hard to go beyond 90km/h, these cars comfortable high speed is somewhere 80km/h - 90km/h

Yes you can paddle more to reach higher speed but will not make one feel comfortable...

I always thought it is a good idea to keep 1 car for power drive while another for economical drive,
but I just naturally keeping myself from the fuel efficient option, thus the X50 doh.gif
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post Jan 14 2021, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 13 2021, 09:25 AM)
anyone kena engine check light on your x50 yet?
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isnt it reported by a lady in the fb group? or was it the guy that just drove few k km

new SOP car manufacturing no go?!?!?!?!?!?!?! or i readed wrong news lol
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post Jan 14 2021, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 11 2021, 11:12 PM)

Not sure if you all know, the piston used on this X50 is flat top which should be the most efficient design compared to doom/dish and this may also explain why Carbon Build up don't seems like a thing to this car due to more efficient combustion
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I'm very interested to know this higher combustion efficiency by flat doom piston. Is it a Geely patent? Tq.
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QUOTE(christ14 @ Jan 14 2021, 07:30 AM)
isnt it reported by a lady in the fb group? or was it the guy that just drove few k km

new SOP car manufacturing no go?!?!?!?!?!?!?! or i readed wrong news lol
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I read from group that says x50 & x70 manufactured at Tanjung malim so business as usual but supplies may have bottleneck?


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post Jan 14 2021, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 14 2021, 10:02 AM)
I read from group that says x50 & x70 manufactured at Tanjung malim so business as usual but supplies may have bottleneck?
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i think so as it goes through port klang.... gg. hopefully the queue is real and pushed by HQ..

on a sidenote anyone knows the price for toyota's cross? it does look fugly from the side.
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post Jan 14 2021, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Jan 14 2021, 09:59 AM)
I'm very interested to know this higher combustion efficiency by flat doom piston. Is it a Geely patent? Tq.
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It is not Geely patent, it is just merely the choice for manufacturer on piston design.
Different Piston setup has its own purpose for the engine design, but flat top in general will have most even flame distribution but often not a choice for turbocharger engine because it doesn't help with reducing compression ratio to avoid knocking, which also means turbocharger that adopt flat top piston need more precise engine design to prevent knocking.


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Above are the explanations I copied from some random site that sells engine parts
This is my little research on the internet tells me, please correct me if I understand anything wrongly.
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post Jan 14 2021, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ Jan 14 2021, 10:17 AM)
i think so as it goes through port klang.... gg. hopefully the queue is real and pushed by HQ..

on a sidenote anyone knows the price for toyota's cross? it does look fugly from the side.
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Logistics should be no problem running in MCO states. Only worry local parts coming from MCO states.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 13 2021, 09:04 AM)
Enjoy ur car bro. U want power but decent fc, take high cc engine, 2.4 - 2.5 NA engine. But pay extra for roadtax, need 6L-7L fully synthetic oil from manufacturers which both cost extra money.

Take small displacement Turbo engine, pay extra fuel. So both got cons respectively. But again, enjoy ur car. 2021 say goodbye to those 150hp and below
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Bro mine just barely pass 150HP ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ itโ€™s Multi-Point not the direct injection model
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 13 2021, 09:07 AM)
Mine on x70 ckd. Best tried was on 6.9L/100km but confidently 100-120kmh for 350km. Going back, drove trunk road, pass car, lorry, fc give 9.3L/100km based on meter. I keep reset each time refuel
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If compared properly X70 might score better Fc than x50
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 13 2021, 10:38 AM)
If coming from MT car you'll feel the gap even bigger lol

I'm getting 14km/l-16km/l with 2008 1.3MT Myvi
When I drive my sibling's Axia AT, sacrifice a lot in power but FC not too far different at just around 17km/l similar driving style.. I rather have the power

Even my 2016 MT Persona is getting 13-15km/l

If only they bring in the 6MT Binyue here I will definitely take it, even my wife prefer MT
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Iโ€™m sorry bro but MT not for me ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I always shift to the wrong gear lol
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post Jan 14 2021, 08:09 PM

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What kind of interest can I get for Proton X50?

Clean CCRIS, recently got housing loan approved at 2.9%, stable employment.

I am thinking 7 or 9 yrs.

Thanks!

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