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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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post Jan 5 2021, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(adkiller @ Jan 4 2021, 05:46 PM)
The XV won't be getting the 1.6 turbo engine here in Malaysia. MotorImage (TCM) has not been a good distributor for our market. Unfortunately, they are slow to update the car and bring in new features, even if the same facelift has already received the updates in other markets. Also the EyeSight for XV was promised to arrive by late 2019, yet until now no updates on it.

The XV may be well planted, but it is sluggish, even performing slower than the HRV in the century sprint. Maybe you are special in that you have plans to take your car off-road regularly, but I can assure you that most drivers won't. Taking it off-road regularly would require special tires for that and won't be as comfortable on roads.
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Not sure why everyone here hate XV so much while it is clearly more superior option to HRV and always mocking its AWD as an disadvantages rather than some extra features you can get with just a small price different. All the other fancy electronics in X50 like ADAS also have tendency to fail but nobody talks about it.

XV and HRV acceleration wise not much different, XV is about 150kg heavier but it has a bigger 2.0 direct injection engine, the power to weight ratio is just 1.5% less for XV. If you wanna argue the Push-to-back feel it don't meant much, this also indicate how well a car mask the inertia.

Don't forget XV also build on a C-Segment platform while its seat also have much better thigh support compared to HRV front and rear.

AWD will benefit you everywhere, you won't know when you trying to be a little bit more adventurous sometimes and got one of its wheels stucked in the ditch/hole where you lose traction and you can also lose tracking while raining, there were once I saw an SUV got one of its wheel stucked in the ditch and I thought its game, then it just conveniently got its way out of it, and I take a look at the logo and it was a Subaru, otherwise this guy gonna be calling tow truck already.

Yes the HRV came with ESC and stuff which might be sufficient but it will never beat the Superiority of the AWD no matter how you look at it.
The AWD built in it is an advantage, not a disadvantages, and it won't broke down easily like some suggested, rear differential oil change don't cost you a bomb
like some has suggested considering you are paying for a 100k-ish priced car.

The only part I don't like about XV is how outdated it is in Malaysia like you said, EyeSight is a thing for more than 2 years yet we get nothing from it.
They willing to give you altermarket look HU but without android auto/car play
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post Jan 6 2021, 02:30 PM

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I thought this is the Proton X50 forum page. Please keep the discussion about the X50 only...
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post Jan 6 2021, 02:34 PM

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post Jan 6 2021, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 6 2021, 02:34 PM)

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It looks like a Personal Accident Insurance add on
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post Jan 6 2021, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 5 2021, 11:16 AM)
Not sure why everyone here hate XV so much while it is clearly more superior option to HRV and always mocking its AWD as an disadvantages rather than some extra features you can get with just a small price different. All the other fancy electronics in X50 like ADAS also have tendency to fail but nobody talks about it.

XV and HRV acceleration wise not much different, XV is about 150kg heavier but it has a bigger 2.0 direct injection engine, the power to weight ratio is just 1.5% less for XV. If you wanna argue the Push-to-back feel it don't meant much, this also indicate how well a car mask the inertia.

Don't forget XV also build on a C-Segment platform while its seat also have much better thigh support compared to HRV front and rear.

AWD will benefit you everywhere, you won't know when you trying to be a little bit more adventurous sometimes and got one of its wheels stucked in the ditch/hole where you lose traction and you can also lose tracking while raining, there were once I saw an SUV got one of its wheel stucked in the ditch and I thought its game, then it just conveniently got its way out of it, and I take a look at the logo and it was a Subaru, otherwise this guy gonna be calling tow truck already.

Yes the HRV came with ESC and stuff which might be sufficient but it will never beat the Superiority of the AWD no matter how you look at it.
The AWD built in it is an advantage, not a disadvantages, and it won't broke down easily like some suggested, rear differential oil change don't cost you a bomb
like some has suggested considering you are paying for a 100k-ish priced car.

The only part I don't like about XV is how outdated it is in Malaysia like you said, EyeSight is a thing for more than 2 years yet we get nothing from it.
They willing to give you altermarket look HU but without android auto/car play
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If you like XV purely because of the AWD, just go ahead and get the car.
But that does not mean HRV is no good. People who buy HRV most probably will not see off-road in their life. Current Stability Control technology is good enough without the use of AWD.
By the way, your car do not stuck in longkang everyday, every month or event in your lifetime. If your car stuck in deep longkang, even the hardcore 4WD trucks will not be able to get out by themselves. They will need the help of other 4WDs.

Since this is the X50 thread, I'm in the opinion that this is really the game-changer and value-for-money model that no other car maker can follow at the current pricing. The products are slowly improving and until you realised it, they are already the market leader.
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post Jan 6 2021, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jan 6 2021, 02:58 PM)
It looks like a Personal Accident Insurance add on
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its quite useless PA since buyers will already have; prefer get some cash discount
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post Jan 7 2021, 12:33 PM

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mad.gif Proton quietly go increased maintenance pricing.

Before 2020, 1st 1000km is totally free.
After 2021, please pay RM 216.63.

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This post has been edited by muncheno: Jan 7 2021, 12:35 PM
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post Jan 7 2021, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Jan 7 2021, 12:33 PM)
mad.gif  Proton quietly go increased maintenance pricing.

Before 2020, 1st 1000km is totally free.
After 2021, please pay RM 216.63.

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isnt 1st service inspection only?



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post Jan 7 2021, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 7 2021, 12:39 PM)
isnt 1st service inspection only?

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If you dont follow Proton's schedule, your warranty is void.
Tell me which is correct?

This post has been edited by muncheno: Jan 7 2021, 12:55 PM
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post Jan 7 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Jan 7 2021, 12:49 PM)
If you dont follow Proton's schedule, your warranty is void.
Tell me which is correct?
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1k service required oil change. For both x50 and x70.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 7 2021, 03:10 PM)
1k service required oil change. For both x50 and x70.
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Youtube from auto blogs mentioned otherwise. Free & inspection only.
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post Jan 7 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 6 2021, 02:34 PM)

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Rubbish appreciation, I would prefer them to give service vouchers due to not able to deliver my unit after almost 4 mths. Booked on 16 Sept.

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jan 7 2021, 04:50 PM)
Youtube from auto blogs mentioned otherwise. Free & inspection only.
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See manual instead
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post Jan 7 2021, 06:12 PM

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Please goto Proton Website to check for the official recommendation for maintenance.
It was RM 0 for 1st 1000km.

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post Jan 7 2021, 08:43 PM

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I am so sick of this these cheaters. Cancel the completely free 1k service, loyalty reward only if you die, what's next in customer mockery?

We could not do the 1k service in 2020 because you did not deliver the cars!
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 5 2021, 11:16 AM)
Not sure why everyone here hate XV so much while it is clearly more superior option to HRV and always mocking its AWD as an disadvantages rather than some extra features you can get with just a small price different. All the other fancy electronics in X50 like ADAS also have tendency to fail but nobody talks about it.

XV and HRV acceleration wise not much different, XV is about 150kg heavier but it has a bigger 2.0 direct injection engine, the power to weight ratio is just 1.5% less for XV. If you wanna argue the Push-to-back feel it don't meant much, this also indicate how well a car mask the inertia.

Don't forget XV also build on a C-Segment platform while its seat also have much better thigh support compared to HRV front and rear.

AWD will benefit you everywhere, you won't know when you trying to be a little bit more adventurous sometimes and got one of its wheels stucked in the ditch/hole where you lose traction and you can also lose tracking while raining, there were once I saw an SUV got one of its wheel stucked in the ditch and I thought its game, then it just conveniently got its way out of it, and I take a look at the logo and it was a Subaru, otherwise this guy gonna be calling tow truck already.

Yes the HRV came with ESC and stuff which might be sufficient but it will never beat the Superiority of the AWD no matter how you look at it.
The AWD built in it is an advantage, not a disadvantages, and it won't broke down easily like some suggested, rear differential oil change don't cost you a bomb
like some has suggested considering you are paying for a 100k-ish priced car.

The only part I don't like about XV is how outdated it is in Malaysia like you said, EyeSight is a thing for more than 2 years yet we get nothing from it.
They willing to give you altermarket look HU but without android auto/car play
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Had a Kembara previously which has 4WD function. Didnt use this function at all, but once this drive shaft broken, it also affects the 2WD. In the end had to fork out money to repair on something that we didnt use.
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QUOTE(muncheno @ Jan 7 2021, 12:49 PM)
If you dont follow Proton's schedule, your warranty is void.
Tell me which is correct?
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Proton schedule didn't include oil change for the first 1000km service.
That person got changed most likely the service centre screw up.
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post Jan 8 2021, 06:17 AM

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Got called up if wanted a 2020 chassis or 2021 one lol

And some weird appreciation thingy which... Idk useless
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post Jan 8 2021, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(jaychew90 @ Jan 7 2021, 11:14 PM)
Proton schedule didn't include oil change for the first 1000km service.
That person got changed most likely the service centre screw up.
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Are u sure? From website already mentioned 5L oil to change during 1k service
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 5 2021, 11:16 AM)
it is clearly more superior option to HRV and always mocking its AWD as an disadvantages rather than some extra features you can get with just a small price different. All the other fancy electronics in X50 like ADAS also have tendency to fail but nobody talks about it.

XV and HRV acceleration wise not much different, XV is about 150kg heavier but it has a bigger 2.0 direct injection engine, the power to weight ratio is just 1.5% less for XV.
AWD will benefit you everywhere,

Yes the HRV came with ESC and stuff which might be sufficient but it will never beat the Superiority of the AWD no matter how you look at it.
The AWD built in it is an advantage, not a disadvantages, and it won't broke down easily like some suggested, rear differential oil change don't cost you a bomb
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forgotten about drive train losses?

purely acceleration even pickup from standstill, AWD is always at a disadvantage unless you're in a sports car like R35 GTR (that have a really odd AWD system btw lol)
more losses would actually be overall fuel economy and added weight from the AWD system.

AWD is not always an advantage, and added diff/transfer case (some have center diffs) oil changes are added costs to consumer nonetheless, and drive shafts are wear and tear item and replacing 2 more pieces are also an additional cost.

there is no denying the advantages of AWD, however to say it is completely flawless without disadvantages is just wrong.

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