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post Dec 12 2020, 09:00 PM

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YS Khong x50 genting racing/drive:
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post Dec 12 2020, 09:32 PM

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Just test drive the car this afternoon.

Really good pickup and interior is pretty solid.

Any owner review of the exec or premium variant? How’s the engine performance (compared with flagship) & FC like?
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QUOTE(adkiller @ Dec 12 2020, 09:00 PM)
YS Khong x50 genting racing/drive:
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post Dec 13 2020, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(danielwoo8 @ Dec 10 2020, 07:18 PM)
Honestly, Proton needs a total revamp to their image among Malaysians.  Now, they are resurrected to life due to Geely's products, innovations and management expertise otherwise, they will sink to obivilion.  I have 2 Protons in the past when I first started my career many years ago and utterly disappointed with their cars. I sworn never to have another Proton car again. I have moved on to Japanese cars and continental cars of which I'm happy with those cars.  Now, I came back to Proton because of Geely's rebadging of their car into X50 and why not, it is good based on the media reviews and brief test drive.

However, the mind sets of their SAs rally put me off. For me, X50 will my last Proton car, no matter how good future Proton cars will going to be with Geely's inputs. Enough is enough!!
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I dont quite understand the statement why x50 will be your last car. If you're getting x50 because of the quality and for the price you're paying then wouldn't you look for another proton in your next car purchase? After all we can expect the same or even better quality in the future because of Geely.

If you're frustrated with proton then shouldn't you not get x50 in the first place? Because I can promise you, you will be facing more issues & frustrations in the service center in the future, after all its still the same management. They will need time to improve but it wont be anytime soon...

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post Dec 13 2020, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Dec 12 2020, 09:32 PM)
Just test drive the car this afternoon.

Really good pickup and interior is pretty solid.

Any owner review of the exec or premium variant? How’s the engine performance (compared with flagship) & FC like?
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It’s good enough, almost like driving Civic sometimes feels like more powerful than civic (feels like)
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post Dec 13 2020, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Dec 12 2020, 09:32 PM)
Just test drive the car this afternoon.

Really good pickup and interior is pretty solid.

Any owner review of the exec or premium variant? How’s the engine performance (compared with flagship) & FC like?
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Been driving my Premium for 5 days and I would say the performance is good enough for city drive in Comfort mode, and the sport mode has powerful torque for me to overtake car or speed when on wide and long straight road.

FC won't be average i believe, since it's still in running in period.
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post Dec 14 2020, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(adkiller @ Dec 12 2020, 09:00 PM)
YS Khong x50 genting racing/drive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9031eocUyM
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From his way of pushing X50, I noticed there’s obvious flaw from X50 which could use a enhancement like installing those balance bar at the bottom of the car
And also brake performance is not bad but he mentioned overheat, which rarely occurs in most of YS khong video. Something to look into changing brake pad/disc
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post Dec 14 2020, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ryou @ Dec 13 2020, 11:21 AM)
Been driving my Premium for 5 days and I would say the performance is good enough for city drive in Comfort mode, and the sport mode has powerful torque for me to overtake car or speed when on wide and long straight road.

FC won't be average i believe, since it's still in running in period.
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Yes I just pump my second tank yesterday, my first tank lasted only for 410km which to my surprise because it is way below the estimated range of 600 when the car first came out.
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post Dec 14 2020, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Dec 14 2020, 08:41 AM)
Yes I just pump my second tank yesterday, my first tank lasted only for 410km which to my surprise because it is way below the estimated range of 600 when the car first came out.
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Depend on ur right foot. Or welcome to turbo engine where window for great fc is very small. Really need to control right foot
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post Dec 14 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 13 2020, 01:13 AM)
I dont quite understand the statement why x50 will be your last car. If you're getting x50 because of the quality and for the price you're paying then wouldn't you look for another proton in your next car purchase? After all we can expect the same or even better quality in the future because of Geely.

If you're frustrated with proton then shouldn't you not get x50 in the first place? Because I can promise you, you will be facing more issues & frustrations in the service center in the future, after all its still the same management. They will need time to improve but it wont be anytime soon...
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To answer your question why I'm getting X50. I have a premium continental car for work purposes, a Japanese car for evening/weekend use. X50 will be my 3rd car and will join the Japanese car for the same role, i.e. evening/weekend use. Before booking X50, I test drove a continental SUV car a month before X50 was launched (without knowing it will be launched) that costs more than twice flagship price. I never have a SUV before and I think perhaps, it's time I should get one. The media reviews by some renowned motoring journalists and the Sepang test drive media where X50 outshone the other cars convinced me to go ahead to book X50 (2 weeks after the media review. i.e. October).

I'm are sick of Proton's local management attitude and that of their SAs. I'm equally aware of SCs work attitude too, after experiencing it many years go. However, I don't want to deprive myself the experience of driving a Chinese technology car, hence X50. I believe, the Japanese car makers have a rude wake up call witnessing how Chinese car makers have improved by leaps and bounds in such a short span of about 20-25 years time. The Japanese car makers with their head start and experience in automotive engineering will have advantage over their Chinese counterparts and they just need to ensure their qualities border than of the continental cars. Thus, my future cars will continue to be continental and Japanese and not Proton. My hope is, Geely will totally revamp Proton's management in the future so they can be seen as viable altenrative to Japanese cars (like whar Dr Li said, aim to be the 3rd largest car maker in Asean behind the Japanese).
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post Dec 14 2020, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 14 2020, 08:55 AM)
Depend on ur right foot. Or welcome to turbo engine where window for great fc is very small. Really need to control right foot
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Turbo engines are much better for highway cruising than NA. However, in city driving with a lot of stop-go driving and creeping during traffic jams, not so much.
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post Dec 14 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Dec 14 2020, 08:40 AM)
From his way of pushing X50, I noticed there’s obvious flaw from X50 which could use a enhancement like installing those balance bar at the bottom of the car
And also brake performance is not bad but he mentioned overheat, which rarely occurs in most of YS khong video. Something to look into changing brake pad/disc
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Agreed with your inputs here, however do remember he is pushing the limit and driving significantly faster around 80-120km/h on Genting hill.
I must said much faster than X70 AWD (boost to 30X Nm) which I notice around 70-110 km/h thru all his video.

For normal people like me, I wont even dare to go downhill upto 100km/h.

So for me, X50 already best in his own class can offer with the given price.
Of coz always rooms for improvement for those car enthusiast.

Also take away here, the car is quite nimble "YS use the word chunky?", he did mentioned it is very is easy to manipulate the car as the front is heavier to the tail when taking corners. To reduced under steer, he actually tilt it by jerking the sterling. Seem easy for him, but seem complicate for me..haha.




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post Dec 14 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 11 2020, 02:08 PM)
As a Honda car onwer for last 6 years, the only good about it is the Engine only which give great FC. gB CVT most get claim under warranty especially city, HRV.  Parts are suck nowadays after most part were made in Thailand. Brake juddering is a general problem happened to most Honda model. Solution is by using aftermarket brakepad.

SC attitude also problem and need to find very honest sc based on owner share info. Example Semenyih SC Honda is totally suck. Leaking oil under the porch is considered normal for them. Myself also claimed 3 times driveshaft under warranty on my accord and once side mirror due to vibrating on high speed.

Civic steering rack is also an issues yet to recall by honda. Btw most Honda do lack NVH even on highest model like Accord.
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I guess your Accord is either the 8th or 9th generation models. Sometimes, it pains to know car owners experienced such bad quality issues when Honda cars are known to be quality cars in the other parts of the world. I have owned 3 Honda cars before and they were superb to drive and their qualities were good. Perhaps, qualities were good in the past, but have deteriorated now. It just doesn't make sense to me because it is now managed by Honda Japan, the qualities of their cars should have improve further. One of my previous bosses once told me, Honda is Japanese BMW. I hope the 10th generation Accord is good and their quality is better than the previous generations. Btw, what is the issue with Civic sterring rack?
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post Dec 14 2020, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(danielwoo8 @ Dec 14 2020, 12:45 PM)
I guess your Accord is either the 8th or 9th generation models. Sometimes, it pains to know car owners experienced such bad quality issues when Honda cars are known to be quality cars in the other parts of the world. I have owned 3 Honda cars before and they were superb to drive and their qualities were good.  Perhaps, qualities were good in the past, but have deteriorated now.  It just doesn't make sense to me because it is now managed by Honda Japan, the qualities of their cars should have improve further. One of my previous bosses once told me, Honda is Japanese BMW.  I hope the 10th generation Accord is good and their quality is better than the previous generations.  Btw, what is the issue with Civic sterring rack?
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U can review the steering rack from civic group or car club, almost a time bomb parts.

The current Honda is one with lots of cost cutting practice hence parts is suck big time. But indeed they keep sold it at premium price at sc.

The CBU or recond honda car is much better than what we get if it made in melaka factory or Thai. U can feel it from the nvh for that cbu car vs ours factory made. The G10 will not come from Japan/CBU hence the quality will quite similar to G9, G8
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post Dec 14 2020, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(adkiller @ Dec 14 2020, 12:22 PM)
Turbo engines are much better for highway cruising than NA. However, in city driving with a lot of stop-go driving and creeping during traffic jams, not so much.
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From my experience driving x70 ckd, when put distance to empty meter mode, it also shown how much actual L/100km being used.

For a slight or medium press of the pedal at highway, for instance from 110kmh to 140kmh, it will trigger up until 19.9L. So really need to control my feet just to get better FC.

Which is quite opposite the NA engine which based on meter calculation. Based on last weekend travel, the x70 fc is hovering around 10km/l

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Dec 13 2020, 11:11 AM)
It’s good enough, almost like driving Civic sometimes feels like more powerful than civic (feels like)
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QUOTE(Ryou @ Dec 13 2020, 11:21 AM)
Been driving my Premium for 5 days and I would say the performance is good enough for city drive in Comfort mode, and the sport mode has powerful torque for me to overtake car or speed when on wide and long straight road.

FC won't be average i believe, since it's still in running in period.
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that's good enough for most of the users laugh.gif

QUOTE(danielwoo8 @ Dec 14 2020, 11:07 AM)
To answer your question why I'm getting X50. I have a premium continental car for work purposes, a Japanese car for evening/weekend use. X50 will be my 3rd car and will join the Japanese car for the same role, i.e. evening/weekend use. Before booking X50, I test drove a continental SUV car a month before X50 was launched (without knowing it will be launched) that costs more than twice flagship price. I never have a SUV before and I think perhaps, it's time I should get one.  The media reviews by some renowned motoring journalists and the Sepang test drive media where X50 outshone the other cars convinced me to go ahead to book X50 (2 weeks after the media review. i.e. October).

I'm are sick of Proton's local management attitude and that of their SAs. I'm equally aware of SCs work attitude too, after experiencing it many years go. However, I don't want to deprive myself the experience of driving a Chinese technology car, hence X50. I believe, the Japanese car makers have a rude wake up call witnessing how Chinese car makers have improved by leaps and bounds in such a short span of about 20-25 years time.  The Japanese car makers with their head start and experience in automotive engineering will have advantage over their Chinese counterparts and they just need to ensure their qualities border than of the continental cars.  Thus, my future cars will continue to be continental and Japanese and not Proton. My hope is, Geely will totally revamp Proton's management in the future so they can be seen as viable altenrative to Japanese cars (like whar Dr Li said, aim to be the 3rd largest car maker in Asean behind the Japanese).
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heard many bad reviews of their SC but i have been doing my service at the below outlets & they seems fine:
Puchong jaya: sadly they tutup kedai
Sg Besi: overall pretty friendly n fast laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 14 2020, 08:55 AM)
Depend on ur right foot. Or welcome to turbo engine where window for great fc is very small. Really need to control right foot
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I’m not an aggressive driver myself and I notice range is good when I’m on highway, and drops significantly during city drive.

I would say it’s even worse then my previous car where RM60 full range can last 510km at its best form
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QUOTE(muncheno @ Dec 14 2020, 12:30 PM)
Agreed with your inputs here, however do remember he is pushing the limit and driving significantly faster around 80-120km/h on Genting hill.
I must said much faster than X70 AWD (boost to 30X Nm) which I notice around 70-110 km/h thru all his video.

For normal people like me, I wont even dare to go downhill upto 100km/h.

So for me, X50 already best in his own class can offer with the given price.
Of coz always rooms for improvement for those car enthusiast.

Also take away here, the car is quite nimble "YS use the word chunky?", he did mentioned it is very is easy to manipulate the car as the front is heavier to the tail when taking corners. To reduced under steer, he actually tilt it by jerking the sterling. Seem easy for him, but seem complicate for me..haha.
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Honestly I don’t even understand the part where he mentioned how to solve the understeer issue. I guess again like you said, it’s ezpz for uncle 😂

This post has been edited by exdtan: Dec 14 2020, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(exdtan @ Dec 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
I’m not an aggressive driver myself and I notice range is good when I’m on highway, and drops significantly during city drive.

I would say it’s even worse then my previous car where RM60 full range can last 510km at its best form
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What is ur previous car?
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QUOTE(muncheno @ Dec 14 2020, 12:30 PM)
Agreed with your inputs here, however do remember he is pushing the limit and driving significantly faster around 80-120km/h on Genting hill.
I must said much faster than X70 AWD (boost to 30X Nm) which I notice around 70-110 km/h thru all his video.

For normal people like me, I wont even dare to go downhill upto 100km/h.

So for me, X50 already best in his own class can offer with the given price.
Of coz always rooms for improvement for those car enthusiast.

Also take away here, the car is quite nimble "YS use the word chunky?", he did mentioned it is very is easy to manipulate the car as the front is heavier to the tail when taking corners. To reduced under steer, he actually tilt it by jerking the sterling. Seem easy for him, but seem complicate for me..haha.
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Its chuck as in "throw", chunky is big i think lol. He meant its easier to throw the body and control it. Something like that hence why its easier to manipulate movement.

Look at the time man 😂 go up and back down in just that time frame

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