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TNB Prevented Me From Registering A New Account
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Lykpoogi
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Jul 11 2020, 12:07 PM
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TNB is really suck, they should have cut the electricity if the tenant didn’t pay the bill for such a long time. I think a lot of landlord also have the same problem. TNB so rich, don’t need to collect money one, they don’t bother to monitor those outstanding payments, just let the tenant drag the payment as long as they like. Stupid company.
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qwertyuioped
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Jul 11 2020, 12:07 PM
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how the heck outstanding can become 30k?
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mini orchard
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Jul 11 2020, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 11 2020, 12:06 PM) You're comparing apples with durians. is never a durian with apple comparisons. Who else can be responsible for your property other than yourself ?
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Kakacaucau
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Jul 11 2020, 12:09 PM
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Now I know it. Thank you for opening this post!
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mushigen
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Jul 11 2020, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 11 2020, 12:08 PM) is never a durian with apple comparisons. Who else can be responsible for your property other than yourself ? Typical victim blaming mindset.
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mini orchard
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Jul 11 2020, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Lykpoogi @ Jul 11 2020, 12:07 PM) TNB is really suck, they should have cut the electricity if the tenant didn’t pay the bill for such a long time. I think a lot of landlord also have the same problem. TNB so rich, don’t need to collect money one, they don’t bother to monitor those outstanding payments, just let the tenant drag the payment as long as they like. Stupid company. Hopefully the smart meter tech can do it.
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mushigen
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Jul 11 2020, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Lykpoogi @ Jul 11 2020, 12:07 PM) TNB is really suck, they should have cut the electricity if the tenant didn’t pay the bill for such a long time. I think a lot of landlord also have the same problem. TNB so rich, don’t need to collect money one, they don’t bother to monitor those outstanding payments, just let the tenant drag the payment as long as they like. Stupid company. Someone thinks it's the landlord's responsibility to monitor and prevent this from happening, never mind that the account is under tenant's name. Too high bill? Easy, collect more deposit from tenant.
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ihavenoidea
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Jul 11 2020, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(apalexar @ Jul 11 2020, 09:36 AM) I think TNB is not chasing TS to pay the bill, just not allow anyone open new account using same unit address. Else same case might repeat again. Yeah, either friend pay or owner pay it. QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jul 11 2020, 10:39 AM) Technically tnb not chasing him. Just not allowing him to register another tenant. Which as others have said make total sense. Since if not, landlord can just keep registering new tenants. As a landlord TS should have kept track of the tenants bill. 3 months didnt pay or usage exceed deposit(with tnb) amount how come tnb didnt take notice and cut the electricity? Its their side that didnt do anything to prevent it. As landlord TS if knew beforehand cant even do anything cause meter is by tnb, he cant go and pull the fuse himself. Dont say he should had reported it to tnb cause account name is not under him just the property This post has been edited by ihavenoidea: Jul 11 2020, 12:14 PM
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mini orchard
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Jul 11 2020, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 11 2020, 12:10 PM) Typical victim blaming mindset. You expect others to take responsibity of your inaction ? Who is blaming who ?
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mini orchard
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Jul 11 2020, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 11 2020, 12:12 PM) Someone thinks it's the landlord's responsibility to monitor and prevent this from happening, never mind that the account is under tenant's name. Too high bill? Easy, collect more deposit from tenant. If you read a proper ta, there is always a clause that the landlord reserves the right to demand an increase deposit / top up if the usage exceeds the original deposit.
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Lykpoogi
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Jul 11 2020, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 11 2020, 12:12 PM) Someone thinks it's the landlord's responsibility to monitor and prevent this from happening, never mind that the account is under tenant's name. Too high bill? Easy, collect more deposit from tenant. You mean such a big company, the don’t need to worry their money collection for the company. They Should have a billing and collection system to monitor all the outstanding. To me they are not doing their fuxking job. All makan gaji buta.
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nookie188
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Jul 11 2020, 12:34 PM
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TNB monopoly ma...so they tai sai... consumers literally got no choice but to tolerate all of this..can only rant at LY
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WhatMan
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Jul 11 2020, 12:42 PM
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If TNB relies on chasing tenant than landlord, what happens if tenant runs to another state or country where TNB has no jurisdiction?
Its a bit funny how people complain why TNB take no actions, yet from the news few days ago when TNB did try to cut electricity of an illegal bitcoin farm, people complain they have no right to break in without police permit.
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mini orchard
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Jul 11 2020, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Jul 11 2020, 12:42 PM) If TNB relies on chasing tenant than landlord, what happens if tenant runs to another state or country where TNB has no jurisdiction? Its a bit funny how people complain why TNB take no actions, yet from the news few days ago when TNB did try to cut electricity of an illegal bitcoin farm, people complain they have no right to break in without police permit. Cut or no cut also kena tiu. Ask tenant use solar. Lol
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apalexar
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Jul 11 2020, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Jul 11 2020, 12:13 PM) 3 months didnt pay or usage exceed deposit(with tnb) amount how come tnb didnt take notice and cut the electricity? Its their side that didnt do anything to prevent it. As landlord TS if knew beforehand cant even do anything cause meter is by tnb, he cant go and pull the fuse himself. Dont say he should had reported it to tnb cause account name is not under him just the property How you know it's been 3 months?  If not mistaken after bill is out user allow to have 30 days to clear it. Btw below is from TNB site: Some owners are left with hefty bills after their tenants have moved out. How can owners protect their rights? Property owners have two choices as below:
1. In the situation before a new tenant moves in, property owners could do a Change of Tenancy making the tenant fully responsible for any delinquent account. However, owners will lose the right to instruct a disconnection to TNB in the event the tenant defaults in his monthly electricity bills 2. Owners could register with myTNB and would then be able to monitor their tenant’s monthly usage and payment patternThis post has been edited by apalexar: Jul 11 2020, 12:55 PM
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acbc
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Jul 11 2020, 12:57 PM
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After 3 months of default, TNB also took their sweet time to disconnect the power supply.
As a power monopoly, TNB don't need to improve or do anything because there no competitors to fight against.
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kluseng
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Jul 11 2020, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 11 2020, 10:49 AM) No others can be responsible for the property other than the owner if one knows basic legal matters. If the landlord have consulted a lawyer to prepare the TA instead of agent. Penny wise pound foolish if something like TS case. Lawyer charged 1 month rental as legal fee excluding disbursrment for TA which many landlords wont want to pay as they also need to pay the agent fees. That would be only 10 months rental collection for a year tenancy. How will getting a lawyer to prepare the TA make any difference to the outcome? If tenant runs off without paying the electric bill you are left holding a piece of paper whether it was prepared by a lawyer or you printed out from your PC. Either case you can still sue your ex-tenant if you want but getting justice from the courts is tough, expensive and time consuming. The point is, getting a lawyer to prepare your TA changes nothing.
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kluseng
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Jul 11 2020, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(apalexar @ Jul 11 2020, 12:53 PM) How you know it's been 3 months?  If not mistaken after bill is out user allow to have 30 days to clear it. Btw below is from TNB site: Some owners are left with hefty bills after their tenants have moved out. How can owners protect their rights? Property owners have two choices as below:
1. In the situation before a new tenant moves in, property owners could do a Change of Tenancy making the tenant fully responsible for any delinquent account. However, owners will lose the right to instruct a disconnection to TNB in the event the tenant defaults in his monthly electricity bills 2. Owners could register with myTNB and would then be able to monitor their tenant’s monthly usage and payment patternIf you choose no. 1, you also lose the ability to monitor whether tenant is paying his electric bills.
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mini orchard
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Jul 11 2020, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Jul 11 2020, 01:06 PM) How will getting a lawyer to prepare the TA make any difference to the outcome? If tenant runs off without paying the electric bill you are left holding a piece of paper whether it was prepared by a lawyer or you printed out from your PC. Either case you can still sue your ex-tenant if you want but getting justice from the courts is tough, expensive and time consuming. The point is, getting a lawyer to prepare your TA changes nothing. No lawyers can prevent a breach of an agreement. Is better to get advise from a legal person rather than a layman. Lawyers give advise based on legal opinion. Layman ... only i think so is like this or like that. Layman can also draft snp. Why need a lawyer ? This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 11 2020, 01:14 PM
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mushigen
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Jul 11 2020, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(apalexar @ Jul 11 2020, 12:53 PM) How you know it's been 3 months?  If not mistaken after bill is out user allow to have 30 days to clear it. Btw below is from TNB site: Some owners are left with hefty bills after their tenants have moved out. How can owners protect their rights? Property owners have two choices as below:
1. In the situation before a new tenant moves in, property owners could do a Change of Tenancy making the tenant fully responsible for any delinquent account. However, owners will lose the right to instruct a disconnection to TNB in the event the tenant defaults in his monthly electricity bills 2. Owners could register with myTNB and would then be able to monitor their tenant’s monthly usage and payment patternIn TS' case, the account is under tenant's name and he's still facing the issue of being denied power connection. I don't think Choice 1 makes any difference. End of the day, landlord still kena chase the tenant to pay or pay up if he wants to reconnect power supply.
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