TNB is a monopoly.

that is why monopolies are bad for the consumer

Seems like there is no point to have the bill in the tenant’s name then

very good info and good advice to whoever wanna invest properties and do renting...

pray you don't rack up those 600k outstanding electricity bill for a mere 1.5k/mth rental fee.

Ask TNB to change to Prepaid smart meter for the rental property.
https://www.therakyatpost.com/news/malaysia...prepaid-meters/

sounds like a good idea. thanks for the info

This TNB install or owner install? Looks like it is after market device for owners https://www.prometer.my/

TNB is like the LHDN.

They don't care who pays as long they're paid.

If the property owner dies with outstanding debts to TNB, the debts will still need to get paid first before selling the property.

It's the same for lelong properties. The TNB account is under the owner but the new buyer has to pay TNB to open a new supply account under his or her name. Don't be surprised if the outstanding for lelong properties can hit 5 figures easily.

This post has been edited by acbc: Dec 1 2024, 10:02 AM

Why didn't TNB cut the supply earlier though?

Better to check with TNB.

This post has been edited by cucubud: Dec 1 2024, 11:04 AM

Still need wifi connection if it is installed at a non-internet how? Worst might install inside your house DB. Tenant can still bypass or sabotage without giving the Internet connection to the meter.

This is ownself install, inside the db box.

Last time my uni time got a prepaid meter, use card reload wan then insert the card into the meter. Actually Malaysia many people who rent out house have this meter for individual rooms.

they won't.
they will say, only if tenant let them inside the house.
AND only if you sign a waiver that you will bear ALL costs if anything happen, that will need you to go LHDN to pay RM10 stamp duty.
So, they make it as difficult for you to cut off as possible.

But, maybe a TNB Smart Meter can be cut off using RFID from outside the house.

tenant can use electricity for 1 whole year without paying also, TNB will dungu and let them use.
In the end, you pay. Some forummer above said can runding. Anecdotally.


This post has been edited by hspace: Dec 1 2024, 12:13 PM

Because it was during MCO, and new MCO law required companies to give leniency, cannot simply sack employees and cut off water and electricity supplies. Even jpj give road tax extension.

Read posts #91 and #114. Different people got different experience because of the branch manager of being high handed in handling things. Or maybe they are looking for grease money to make things go smoothly.

In one of TS posts... he wrote "the account for supply is registered under my name because i want to monitor their usage."

Post #114, it is from a knowledgeable person. Many small factories are operating in rented buildings. Unless you're the factory manager and accountant, you might not know tnb will send the factory giving deadline to clear the outstanding bill or they will come cut electricity after the deadline.

Look at the matter this way... tnb is a supplier, supplying electricity, like other suppliers to the shop/business. All the supplies are delivered to the address under the name of the shop or business owner.

So, when the shop or business closed down, suppliers don't go looking for the landlord for outstanding bills.

If you rented the same shop or office or building and open new accounts with the suppliers, why would you care to listen to grandfather stories of the people running away and not paying their outstanding bills?

If any of the suppliers refused to open an account for you, then go look for another supplier.

But if it is a monopoly like tnb (and cannot go looking for another supplier)... I would say escalate the matter. If necessary, sue or threaten to sue tnb.

My 2 cents...

You could bring previous tenant to court

What a stupid SOP from TNB

Promote change name to tenant, but no benefit to owner whatsoever.
Even overdue more than deposit they do nothing. Air Selangor better since they will lock the water meter

Prepaid meters are aftermarket stuff, not under TNB.

Better to keep it under landlord's name, if anything can just terminate the account when utility deposit burned. Also can monitor through TNB app for smart meter, don't just let it rake up to thousands before terminating.

Sometimes you need to bear some losses when being a landlord, just like getting eviction notice and bailiff service from mahkamah or tenant trashing the place before leaving, those things cost money so landlord at least have be mentally prepared for shit like this.

This post has been edited by JonSpark: Dec 1 2024, 05:49 PM

Not really a full manopoly. Can't really blame TNB just that nobody wants to set up their own company and pull new cables and high tension towers. Nobody. Recently I read gov has forced tnb to allow 3rd party access to power plants that want to piggy back tnb network, but so far nobody is doing that for residential customers.

Same case with internet, only new one is time fibre. Others like maxis and celcom all piggy back on TM's unifi infra and cables.

So far I only know Genting have their own power plant, network, substation, towers and is supplying to their residents, condo and their own theme park.

In Singapore they have many companies because the island is small and it doesn't take much money to build cables spanning the entire island to supply to all customers especially when they are all condos.

Gov should give subsidy/incentive to produce another player in electric, just like how they set up DNB for 5G. Then only got competition and more choices for us.

Edit: I was curious and went Google, apparently there's over 300 active license holder to sell electric in Malaysia


https://www.st.gov.my/web/general/details/993



This post has been edited by dest9116: Dec 1 2024, 06:25 PM

in misa, it is an effective monopoly. Even solar power generation is only allowed at their pleasure,

But why nobody is setting up new network to compete? I don't see the government limiting who can apply for permit. A monopoly is when the gov restricts but it's not. I can only think that it's not as profitable as what everyone expects it to be. With even the tariff being controlled by the government.

Yes. There is misconception of monopoly in Malaysia