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TNB Prevented Me From Registering A New Account
TNB Prevented Me From Registering A New Account
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Jun 27 2022, 06:55 PM
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it is under your name, you're accountable for it
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Jun 27 2022, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Azzqech @ Jun 27 2022, 06:54 PM) So what should owners do to ensure they don't lose out on unpaid electric bills incurred by their tenants? check the electricity bill for the property at least once a month - in that way, landlords / owners are able to spot if there are any unusual usage / accumulation of charges.tenancy agreement usually takes up to at least 3 months worth of monthly rental as security deposits so it should be sufficient to deduct therefrom to make up for the tenant's default. when it comes to dealing with tenants, prevention is always better than cure. |
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Nov 27 2024, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Jun 27 2022, 06:55 PM) for the record, even if it's under your tenant's name, but you own the propertyTNB will still make you pay for it 1. Otherwise, new tenant come in, register new account, then prev tenant get away scot-free. So TNB still wants someone to pay. 2. You can conclude, changing TNB account name to tenant's name is useless. It's a false of security and waste of time. And might be even worse. From TNB's own website; "In the situation before a new tenant moves in, property owners could do a Change of Tenancy making the tenant fully responsible for any delinquent account. However, owners will lose the right to instruct a disconnection to TNB in the event the tenant defaults in his monthly electricity bills" Source: https://www.tnb.com.my/faq/owner-tenant-issues/ 3. TNB's SOP is screwed up. They will not disconnect supply even if your tenant doesn't pay for 1 year. You can cry "unfair", "lousy" all you want at the TNB counter. |
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Nov 27 2024, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(hspace @ Nov 27 2024, 05:50 PM) for the record, even if it's under your tenant's name, but you own the property Aiyo, why necroTNB will still make you pay for it 1. Otherwise, new tenant come in, register new account, then prev tenant get away scot-free. So TNB still wants someone to pay. 2. You can conclude, changing TNB account name to tenant's name is useless. It's a false of security and waste of time. And might be even worse. From TNB's own website; "In the situation before a new tenant moves in, property owners could do a Change of Tenancy making the tenant fully responsible for any delinquent account. However, owners will lose the right to instruct a disconnection to TNB in the event the tenant defaults in his monthly electricity bills" Source: https://www.tnb.com.my/faq/owner-tenant-issues/ 3. TNB's SOP is screwed up. They will not disconnect supply even if your tenant doesn't pay for 1 year. You can cry "unfair", "lousy" all you want at the TNB counter. |
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Nov 28 2024, 09:11 AM
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Why did tnb encourage landlord to register the electricity Acc under tenant name? This does not protect the landlord from anything. KenM liked this post
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Nov 28 2024, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 28 2024, 09:11 AM) Why did tnb encourage landlord to register the electricity Acc under tenant name? This does not protect the landlord from anything. exactly la. it's Malaysia.in fact it's worse if you change to tenant name. This post has been edited by hspace: Nov 28 2024, 09:22 AM hspace liked this post
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Nov 28 2024, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jul 11 2020, 01:22 AM) has anyone encountered this issue? Yes and the only way is to settle it, no point getting lawyermy previous tenant left the premise with rm30k electricity outstanding and now TNB doesn't allow my new tenant to register a new account for the premise because of this. they said despite the outstanding was incurred under the previous tenant's name, tnb will not supply or allow new registration because in their records, the outstanding is tied to the property. is this how tnb has being doing things? hspace liked this post
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Nov 28 2024, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(hspace @ Nov 28 2024, 08:21 AM) reminds me of mcbeth..full of sound and fury, signifying nothing! hspace liked this post
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Nov 28 2024, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(KenM @ Nov 28 2024, 10:10 AM) Or sandiwara in MY: "Wayang je"This post has been edited by hspace: Nov 28 2024, 10:14 AM KenM liked this post
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Nov 28 2024, 10:52 AM
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Maybe can register again if prop transferred to diff name eg selling/transfer.
My family likes to sapu those lelong houses, a few have outstanding TNB bill under previous owner/tenant names. To change account name, old account need to close. Most previous owners already off the grid for whatever reasons. Lawyer will handle that for us, same goes to default in assessment and quit rent. |
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Nov 28 2024, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Nov 28 2024, 10:52 AM) Maybe can register again if prop transferred to diff name eg selling/transfer. changing name is easy. can even do online. as long as previous bill is settled. My family likes to sapu those lelong houses, a few have outstanding TNB bill under previous owner/tenant names. To change account name, old account need to close. Most previous owners already off the grid for whatever reasons. Lawyer will handle that for us, same goes to default in assessment and quit rent. if lelong, most of the time (not always), the selling bank will settle for you, that's why you can close the account. if tenant run away, diff story. you have to pay. Malaysia Boleh. This post has been edited by hspace: Nov 28 2024, 11:00 AM |
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Nov 28 2024, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(hspace @ Nov 28 2024, 10:58 AM) changing name is easy. can even do online. as long as previous bill is settled. Tenant run away type can also bincang one (been there), TNB is not as black&white as you guys think they are.if lelong, most of the time (not always), the selling bank will settle for you, that's why you can close the account. if tenant run away, diff story. you have to pay. Malaysia Boleh. |
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Nov 28 2024, 11:11 AM
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Nov 28 2024, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(hspace @ Nov 28 2024, 11:11 AM) I'll just list the ones closest to TS's scenario.FIRST CASE: Small warehouse/factory: Utility default 25k, ex-tenant bankrupt. Result: old account closed, allow us to register new account but deposit much higher. SECOND CASE: Shoplot in mall: utility default 5k, ex-tenant off radar. Result: old account closed, allow us to register new account Above cases settled by ourselves without lawyer since they're not from auction and are commercial type. Residential ones I leave it to lawyer to deal with. eyerule liked this post
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Nov 28 2024, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Nov 28 2024, 11:30 AM) I'll just list the ones closest to TS's scenario. Wow. Scot-free. How to go about it? Talk to the counter staff, or runding with officer?FIRST CASE: Small warehouse/factory: Utility default 25k, ex-tenant bankrupt. Result: old account closed, allow us to register new account but deposit much higher. SECOND CASE: Shoplot in mall: utility default 5k, ex-tenant off radar. Result: old account closed, allow us to register new account Above cases settled by ourselves without lawyer since they're not from auction and are commercial type. Residential ones I leave it to lawyer to deal with. |
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Nov 28 2024, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Nov 28 2024, 11:30 AM) I'll just list the ones closest to TS's scenario. are these case purchase from other owner or you are the owner all these while ?FIRST CASE: Small warehouse/factory: Utility default 25k, ex-tenant bankrupt. Result: old account closed, allow us to register new account but deposit much higher. SECOND CASE: Shoplot in mall: utility default 5k, ex-tenant off radar. Result: old account closed, allow us to register new account Above cases settled by ourselves without lawyer since they're not from auction and are commercial type. Residential ones I leave it to lawyer to deal with. |
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Nov 28 2024, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(hspace @ Nov 28 2024, 11:33 AM) Counter staff will direct u to an officer to bincangOfficer may need other info and docs from u, they might contact ex-tenant, see if they willing to pay or not. Then check ur financial bg like ur other TNB accounts for reference. All in all, trick is to just play along iykwim |
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Nov 28 2024, 12:10 PM
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old thread and wonder if TS has settled this?
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Nov 28 2024, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(jayb2 @ Nov 28 2024, 12:04 PM) Above two are our prop, never transferred outside before. Even when transfer also it's between family (beneficiary) and no default utility or tax during that time.The rest not listed above are mostly transferred from ex-owner, but not every case follow the same step tho. |
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Nov 28 2024, 03:47 PM
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This one I clap hands and salute tnb.
So good man. Big corporation can do same tactics as along... cannot find borrower, go splash red paint on parents house. And people go give excuses on tnb's behalf. |
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