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neosaint99
post Nov 11 2013, 12:48 AM

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Dear All,

My BLM (1st gen) fan doesn't switch off when the key is removed. Once in a while it will switch off. But then after a while the fan comes on again (even after the car is remote locked) and does not switch off.

Has anybody experienced this problem before?

I have checked the fluid levels and everything else I can think off. If the fan never switched off I would guess its the fan relay stuck close. But the thing is it does go off once in may be 20 stops (turn-offs) so I'm stumped.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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post Nov 27 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(spikyxD @ Nov 27 2013, 10:26 AM)
Hi all Sifu, Saga BLM, there is sounds when break in early morning or in low speed. But after driving for 10-15 minutes, there will be no sound when brake.

Mechanic told the brake pad is still functioning good.

Anyone experience this before and know what is the causes ?
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No issue
Your brake discs are just rusting overnight
the pads rub off the rust then sound disappears
Dont have to worry wink.gif
If the sound persists after a few presses then you have to start worrying
One possibility is the pads used are too hard
Try softer perhaps copper based high performance type pads
They are more forgiving and even less susceptible to brake fade
neosaint99
post Jan 18 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(hawk1lo @ Jan 10 2014, 08:22 PM)
Saga LMST currently have over heating issue, last time (2months ago)one day found out temp reach 5 bar without stressing the engine, found fan is spinning only that it didn't spin when reach 4 bar, and sometimes it spins, and never reach above. ( when fan can spin car temp will drop down )

Changed the radiator switch, changed new coolant and things were ok, but after few weeks still got same problem, but occasionaly, i restart the engine at roadside or idling to ensure the fan will "kick in", quite often when car is running from cold. Most of the time no problem

These few days like back to square one, i even let the car idle and observed the fan only kicked in after temp bar raise till 5-6bar. When the fan starts spinning, i know its ok, restarted engine and saw the temp bar at 3 straight away... i not sure if the temperature gauge is faulty or what.

Gonna send it to SC 2morro again
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Does this happen when your lights are on?
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post Jan 18 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(hawk1lo @ Jan 10 2014, 08:22 PM)
Saga LMST currently have over heating issue, last time (2months ago)one day found out temp reach 5 bar without stressing the engine, found fan is spinning only that it didn't spin when reach 4 bar, and sometimes it spins, and never reach above. ( when fan can spin car temp will drop down )

Changed the radiator switch, changed new coolant and things were ok, but after few weeks still got same problem, but occasionaly, i restart the engine at roadside or idling to ensure the fan will "kick in", quite often when car is running from cold. Most of the time no problem

These few days like back to square one, i even let the car idle and observed the fan only kicked in after temp bar raise till 5-6bar. When the fan starts spinning, i know its ok, restarted engine and saw the temp bar at 3 straight away... i not sure if the temperature gauge is faulty or what.

Gonna send it to SC 2morro again
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Does this happen when your lights are on?
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post Jan 18 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Huey_nee @ Dec 9 2013, 05:35 PM)
My Saga LMST (year 2007) has been sucking up the fuel like a thirsty bear recently. The problem came after the engine started to 'buat hal'. After switch off, the engine would not stop immediately, instead shake for few more seconds only stop. From then on, fuel consumption became very high, from 14km/L to 8km/L. Switched from Shell to Caltex, and sent the car to workshop, service and tuning auto choke, everything back to normal with slightly high rpm, and fuel consumption for the recent tank is 11.4km/L.

I have few concerns:
1) Is 11.4km/L consider ok? 90% city drive. I don't want to sound silly to go back to the workshop, though if the high rpm persist I might need to send back.
2) The fuel capacity for LMST is 45 L right? There's one time I refuel, the fuel insert until 45.12L but the gun didn't stop or anything! I suspect it's the gun's problem. That tank only lasted me 430km (before repair)
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1. 11.4km/L is good on a 1.3 (underpowered) manual in the city. I would love to know how you used to get 14km/L. That is really good for the 1.3. the 1.5 magma iswaras can do that with no problem. But the 1.3 is severely underpowered thus making good consumption hard to achieve.

2. On a totally dry tank, you should be able to squeeze in like 46L++. The tank may be 45. But you got your filling port and piping etc. That more than a liter right there.

Notes:
Car still running after you swith off your key means your engine is self combusting the fuel. That could happen under 4 scenarios.
1. Your compression ratio is too high (not possible)
2. Your engine is too hot (is your cooling system working?)
3. You got contaminated fuel in your tank (think kerosene etc) - most likely
4. Your spark plugs are so fouled and carbonized that they have become glow plugs of sorts providing a combustion source even when the spark has been cut off. (when did you last change your sparkplugs? are you losing engine oil?)

Petrol engines use spark plugs to combust each stroke as the compression ratio does not allow the fuel-air mixture to reach self combustion conditions (diesel engines do this...they do not have spark plugs)

The 1.3 manual is a carburatted engine. All carburatted engines have a little reservoir of fuel in the carburettor. So if your engine keeps combusting on each stroke even when the key is turned off (no more spark plugs, fuel cut-off solenoid is closed) the engine will keep running and sucking in fuel from this tiny reservoir until it is dry.

They shop may have said its the auto choke. I have heard of this before. But usually you have to change the bimetallic strips if the autochoke goes bust.

Have the engine advance checked. It usually doesnt run out but having it checked out every 50,000km is a good practice. If this is out, your consumption will be quite significantly affected.

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Jan 18 2014, 11:23 PM

 

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