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post Aug 3 2007, 08:25 AM, updated 19y ago

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Some portrait of my gf I took today:

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Lighting:

-Key light
My keylight is a Vivitar 285HV hooked to a RF wireless receiver manual power @ 1/16 shooting through a 38" white umbrella.

-Hair light
This is done with my SB-600 manual power @ 1/2 (perhaps some minor compensation too...can't remember), bounced with a 40" silver umbrella. My battery charger koyak already, can't used my second wireless receiver...had to run a wire from the hotshoe->pc adapter to my D200 pc terminal...lots of cables hanging here and there.

-Fill light
60W tungsten lamp bounced with a 40" silver umbrella sweat.gif there's really not much juice here, going to pick up 2 halogen lamp tomorrow....one for background, another for the fill light.

Lighting is flatter than what I'd like, but due to lacking in equipments, I had to use the hair light as the background light. The relatively short subject to background distance also caused all the creases to show up. Waiting for my HUGE black backdrop to arrive brows.gif and a few more gar chang, particularly my sekonic L-358 light meter. Some high key and low key shots in the coming future. Thanks for viewing. notworthy.gif

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thanks for sharing the light coordination n placement
hehe..wish i also got the space to do such things
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tis is ur own studio?
cool man...keep up the great works...
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post Aug 5 2007, 11:55 AM

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Preview

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the first pic a lil TOO grainy...the face details lost...
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i deliberately added the noise lol
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there's something about Jaymee that seems to draw attention... Her pose, her facial expression....

can't wait to see your results once your equipment is complete...
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i know but its a lil too much...the face looks how to say ar...lost details...hehehe...
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yes, Jaymee (i mis-spelled her name sweat.gif) can pose very kau sweat.gif and her shots are all very "posey" and "grand".

NP with the noise, not everybody appreaciate them, I initially converted it to B&W, which already looks good, but I decided to add some noise to simulate film grain. I thought the pose, apparel, and her look matches perfectly with the presentation. i'll post the original up later.

I'll be posting another shot of Jaymee shortly...my gf want to me convert it now for some reasons...
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you make it sound like i am insulting your picture sad.gif tongue.gif but really thats just my opinion don angry oh notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 5 2007, 01:54 AM)
you make it sound like i am insulting your picture sad.gif  tongue.gif but really thats just my opinion don angry oh notworthy.gif
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no lar doh.gif your comments are greatly appreciated. i'll post up the original tomolo, I need to post process the pictures to eliminate her tan lines....and also to remove some backdrop flaws sweat.gif

Here's the one I was converting:
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this one taken with my 80-200mm f2.8. The whole concept about this pictures is the "ears"

edit: oh btw, all these taken with 2 flahses only...I'm not very satisfied with some of the pictures i havent posted up...mainly because there's not enough backlight coverage to "iron out" the backdrop, especially when 3 dimension is involved (floor and wall). I need to get 2 more flahses after i sell off my Wii sweat.gif

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the soft toy very cute...hehe....\
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 5 2007, 01:08 PM)
no lar doh.gif your comments are greatly appreciated. i'll post up the original tomolo, I need to post process the pictures to eliminate her tan lines....and also to remove some backdrop flaws sweat.gif

Here's the one I was converting:
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this one taken with my 80-200mm f2.8. The whole concept about this pictures is the "ears"

edit: oh btw, all these taken with 2 flahses only...I'm not very satisfied with some of the pictures i havent posted up...mainly because there's not enough backlight coverage to "iron out" the backdrop, especially when 3 dimension is involved (floor and wall). I need to get 2 more flahses after i sell off my Wii sweat.gif
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great job on setting up the lighting
maybe u need another light from above
try to bounce it from the ceiling n give the model's hair (top part) more details
for now, it seems just dark hair without any details

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I think you still need another light source as there are shadows still visible and affecting the perfectness of the pictures.
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her head grown shoes
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yup, that's why i bising bising not enough flash brows.gif I'm gonna get 2 more shortly.
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hehe...if u wanna save a bit..
maybe u can consider getting those reflector?
get the reflector stand also...
should be better than using camera's fill light
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I have a reflector, but i like flash better. 4 flash should be suffice for me to create any effect I wanted biggrin.gif


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Found a macro heaven today...lots of bees, grasshopper, some birds, dogs, plants, but no poserfly (dragonfly)

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i prefer it if shoot from front view..so can see the kepala...
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 12 2007, 11:08 AM)
i prefer it if shoot from front view..so can see the kepala...
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lol you think shooting bee is like shooting poserfly ar? biggrin.gif Most of the time you'd only get to shoot their ass when they dig into flowers to harvest
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yea, bees are much much harder than dragonflies, u just shoot and hope for the best!
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at 2k+ this lens is a real bargain. Might get one for myself in the future too. Was scoping for the alternative 105macro though =/
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 12 2007, 10:11 PM)
lol you think shooting bee is like shooting poserfly ar?  biggrin.gif Most of the time you'd only get to shoot their ass when they dig into flowers to harvest
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yea, bees are much much harder than dragonflies, u just shoot and hope for the best!
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sweat.gif sweat.gif pai se...i really dunno anything bout macro..hehe..when got chance i try...but i scare it sting me..lolz... i first time load the page didnt load second pic..now i see second pic is nicer than first pic...
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Anyhow, I do have a "headshot" of a bee, a different variant though. But it's not a 1:1 close-like-hell-headshot.

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Any renting services going on here ? laugh.gif
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ok i gotta say THAT is NICE... i like the compo...
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105mm alternative? there aren't many out there....tamron 90mm, tokina 100mm, sigma 105mm, and nikkor 105mm AF-d. All of these extends which i hate sad.gif left only the sigma 150mm and 105mm vr that has af-s/hsm, and doesnt extend.

rent sigma? I dun see many places selling this lens in Msia...let alone renting tongue.gif

here's another one in a slightly different pose:
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there's a few more bee shots....but very sleepy....will post up later. icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm... i see this one the only diff i see is its potrait instead of landscape ler...and a little higher...
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Everything else:
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*gigantic wasp, but extremely good at hiding...didn't manage to get anything else sad.gif
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i like number 5 a lot...also..the flowers... why DOF so shallow?i tot shot flower need bokeh the whole flower le.. unsure.gif
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did you read the comment under my avatar? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 12 2007, 10:33 PM)
105mm alternative? there aren't many out there....tamron 90mm, tokina 100mm, sigma 105mm, and nikkor 105mm AF-d. All of these extends which i hate sad.gif left only the sigma 150mm and 105mm vr that has af-s/hsm, and doesnt extend.
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haha i was refering to sigma's 105mm macro. Around 1.5k can get d. Minimum focusing distance of 30cm. Wootnezz!

Btw, is the lens heavy?

and btw, nice shots, bokeh dam nice biggrin.gif
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dun get the sigma 105mm ler....most people i know who bought the 105mm drooling over the 150mm only. Take a leap, forget about the stepping stone brows.gif besides, 1 ft from focal plane with the lens fully extended to get 1:1 + lens hood = 1-2" away from the hood? impossible to shoot 1:1 with vicious bugs ler laugh.gif Im gonna get a 1.4TC with to use with my lenses when i get the chance...150mm is still kinda short for some bugs...it's good to keep a farther distance so that u dun need to use flash and ur shadow won't block the subject biggrin.gif

Yeah bokeh l33tness...I just joined bokeh wh0res group in flickr. Those shots all taken at around f5.6 i think, @ 2.8...bokeh lagi kau...but subject has to be small. The lens is not heavy at all...merely 900g....ok it's nothing like the 50mm kind of weight...but I'm quite used to heavy weight lens, this lens is relatively light. Did i mention that all these shots are taken handheld? biggrin.gif

Shashinki selling this lens @ RM2600, and the 105mm vr @ RM2700 man...damn kau expensive....sweat.gif

Luke, u passed landscape liao lar....go grab a telemacro for good...works as a portrait sumore brows.gif even if u dun appreciate it, ur gf would heheheh

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 13 2007, 09:46 AM)
dun get the sigma 105mm ler....most people i know who bought the 105mm drooling over the 150mm only. Take a leap, forget about the stepping stone brows.gif besides, 1 ft from focal plane with the lens fully extended to get 1:1 + lens hood = 1-2" away from the hood? impossible to shoot 1:1 with vicious bugs ler laugh.gif Im gonna get a 1.4TC with to use with my lenses when i get the chance...150mm is still kinda short for some bugs...it's good to keep a farther distance so that u dun need to use flash and ur shadow won't block the subject biggrin.gif

Yeah bokeh l33tness...I just joined bokeh wh0res group in flickr. Those shots all taken at around f5.6 i think, @ 2.8...bokeh lagi kau...but subject has to be small. The lens is not heavy at all...merely 900g....ok it's nothing like the 50mm kind of weight...but I'm quite used to heavy weight lens, this lens is relatively light. Did i mention that all these shots are taken handheldbiggrin.gif

Shashinki selling this lens @ RM2600, and the 105mm vr @ RM2700 man...damn kau expensive....sweat.gif

Luke, u passed landscape liao lar....go grab a telemacro for good...works as a portrait sumore brows.gif even if u dun appreciate it, ur gf would heheheh
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Haha well, im always having a tight budget around, so sometimes i just cant get what i wanted brows.gif You do have a point there, though to me macro is all about getting close and snap the shot. But a longer distance would certainly help alot. And imagine fitting a ring flash along brows.gif

Wah, still wanna extend it meh sleep.gif The bokeh is really superb, since u have the lens, and if you don't mind, try go and shoot it at f2.8, i wanna drool over the bokeh! drool.gif 900g is light man, though if i hold 1 i might have problems, cuz i used to light lens tongue.gif

I've check the price liao, 150mm f2.8 Macro -- RM2399 only tongue.gif Just have to get the right sauce biggrin.gif But the vr is really a bonus ler =/ so its hard to choose from haha... But my sights is definitely for the 150mm macro biggrin.gif i just hope that they do four thirds mounts too =/

My landscapes still noobish la, i wanna be better at it. Its one of the reasons why i love photography, so i wont pass it tongue.gif I do have a 35mm macro, but i have yet to go test it out, waiting for my friend to come back 1st then only go shoot with him. hehe... Most of my shots for portraits are taken with my kit lens tongue.gif

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The only reason why I'd even bother getting something like the micro 60mm 2.8/sigma 50mm macro is for convenience sake of havign the macro capability only. The lens is so short, lens diameter so small, and as a result, bokeh only so so. Not to mention having macro lens at these focal length kinda reduced the speed benefit of these lenses...havign to mess with the focus swicth is a pain.

Shashinki is overpriced ler, if you do source properly..u prolly can get it at a little more than 2k...maybe not possible in msia...try SG? biggrin.gif I got mine for RM1.8k + RM60 for 7 year mack warranty....new with usa warranty. And lucky for me, this sample is damn good (i know ppl like to say this about their sample all the time but it's true in this case tongue.gif), AF is very accurate, but sigma AF can be funky sometimes, and it doesnt like some filters.

Macro with olympus is gonna be a pain oso, prolly have to go old skool MF + tripod or something. All the shots i made was done with AF (i discovered a combo settings to AF with great accuracy) biggrin.gif I think they are around 1:2...af with 1:1 magnification can die....hunt like hell sweat.gif

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 13 2007, 10:08 AM)
The only reason why I'd even bother getting something like the micro 60mm 2.8/sigma 50mm macro is for convenience sake of havign the macro capability only. The lens is so short, lens diameter so small, and as a result, bokeh only so so. Not to mention having macro lens at these focal length kinda reduced the speed benefit of these lenses...havign to mess with the focus swicth is a pain.

Shashinki is overpriced ler, if you do source properly..u prolly can get it at a little more than 2k...maybe not possible in msia...try SG? biggrin.gif I got mine for RM1.8k + RM60 for 7 year mack warranty....new with usa warranty. And lucky for me, this sample is damn good (i know ppl like to say this about their sample all the time but it's true in this case tongue.gif), AF is very accurate, but sigma AF can be funky sometimes, and it doesnt like some filters.

Macro with olympus is gonna be a pain oso, prolly have to go old skool MF + tripod or something. All the shots i made was done with AF (i discovered a combo settings to AF with great accuracy) biggrin.gif I think they are around 1:2...af with 1:1 magnification can die....hunt like hell sweat.gif

Switch to Nikon before u invest more in oly brows.gif
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yeah, thats why, my 35mm macro is mainly for that, though the minimal focal distance is around 5 cm or lower(only that i can get a true 1:1), it definitely will help me train my patience. The only problem is getting the flash bounce nicely to make the shot nice biggrin.gif A friend of mine say that go for continuous af would help if u train it nicely, but im more of a manual focus dude for macro =/ and 1 thing that i do not like, the focusing speed of my 35mm is somehow slow =/

tell me about messing with the focus switch, for oly you have to change it in the camera, not on the body laugh.gif

you serious about the price? that's uber cheap! sweat.gif 7 years warranty somemore sweat.gif What do you mean about the AF can be funky? biggrin.gif Its a pain, but i dont mind that, others can overcome it, why not me? biggrin.gif no need tripod some more laugh.gif

Im not going to switch back to the dark side(i used to own a D70s you know). I have to admit that the dark side is really tempting again, Nikon's done a really great job on that, kudos to them. But now im investing in oly only. Waiting for the P-1 to be released before i change my body. And in the future, will go back to a Canon, this time, full frame. biggrin.gif If i have the cash, i'd go for both Olympus and canon. But I might find me a D70s, just for its Infrared Capabilities. tongue.gif
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The oly 3af points make it very susah to macro with AF, thus...old skool manual lor. I find manual very very very difficult with these insects that move alot. MF no need AF points though compo also alot easier.

Yup, USD500+ only...I could have gotten it RM100 cheaper but I'd been waiting forever for that dealer to get the stock in...this is having a shortage in NA.

Yeah I knew u had a d70s...i just didn't know when u switched to oly sweat.gif FF ar? I'm actually kinda interested in the 5D + 85mm 1.4 zeiss planar + f mount adapter brows.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 13 2007, 10:29 AM)
The oly 3af points make it very susah to macro with AF, thus...old skool manual lor. I find manual very very very difficult with these insects that move alot. MF no need AF points though compo also alot easier.

Yup, USD500+ only...I could have gotten it RM100 cheaper but I'd been waiting forever for that dealer to get the stock in...this is having a shortage in NA.

Yeah I knew u had a d70s...i just didn't know when u switched to oly sweat.gif FF ar? I'm actually kinda interested in the 5D + 85mm 1.4 zeiss planar + f mount adapter brows.gif
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haha, well im sure that this will change in time smile.gif oly is still new to the dslr world ma biggrin.gif

That's cheap ler... sad.gif stupid malaysia keep on introducing tax to stuffs :/

Switch it after around 5k shots laugh.gif the 5D is really tempting, but too expensive for me now >_< zeiss as in carl zeiss? man those lens are superior drool.gif
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The 5D is really expensive for what it offers, but nikon has nothing to offer in the FF market...so canon "play all" lor laugh.gif

Yes, carl zeiss biggrin.gif the 85mm 1.4 is extremely sharp...can make use of the full resolution on 5D.

I like olympus' build quality. I had a 5060wz, that thing feels like REAL magnesium alloy, solid like rock, heavy, and feels like metal. The D200...even though it's said to be magnesium allow...it feels like plastic doh.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 13 2007, 11:10 AM)
The 5D is really expensive for what it offers, but nikon has nothing to offer in the FF market...so canon "play all" lor laugh.gif

Yes, carl zeiss biggrin.gif the 85mm 1.4 is extremely sharp...can make use of the full resolution on 5D.

I like olympus' build quality. I had a 5060wz, that thing feels like REAL magnesium alloy, solid like rock, heavy, and feels like metal. The D200...even though it's said to be magnesium allow...it feels like plastic doh.gif
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Yeah, but teh FF is really really tempting doh.gif

No worries, rumors are nikon is going FF too brows.gif I've heard that CZ offers really good optics. Have yet to try 1 =/

LOL its the inside that counts la, i've hold a D200 before, yeah it does feel plasticky. But heck, its a good cam! Wish that oly still manufacture the E-1 though...
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Where did ya get your 150mm lens at that price yea ?
And 60 bucks for the extended warranty is so amazing.
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I bought mine from digitalfotoclub.com biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 13 2007, 04:24 AM)
Everything else:

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*gigantic wasp, but extremely good at hiding...didn't manage to get anything else sad.gif
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Same idea here like ur picture...hard to take it bcoz of the wind and slow focusing lens laugh.gif

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very smooth bokeh, but I don't really know if the picture has any meaning tongue.gif

took a few shots of a zombie walk, the zombies were walking faster than I could catch up. Too many zombies, movements were too fast and I couldn't find interesting ones to shoot besides these few who actually posed for me a little:

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I love to shoot at 200mm, and it is still fairly shot for me at times.
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post Aug 29 2007, 02:21 PM

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wu~ you said that the zombies are WALKING...means its real lar..but how do they makeup the eyes for the third pic? nice bokeh on the pics also...hehe...
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post Aug 29 2007, 02:34 PM

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The eye is a cover of some sort that sticks on his face. I have another picture that you could see the "internals" I didn't bother uploading it yet.

Yup, bokeh is awesome on this lens, but I will need to get the 300mm f4 afs if I move to D3, which is equivalent to 200mm on aps-c
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post Aug 29 2007, 06:12 PM

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their make up is awesome...esp the last pic...compo very nice...wa...but then you got to stand far to take this pics ar?

 

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