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post Aug 18 2020, 07:08 PM

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post Aug 19 2020, 09:47 AM

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can anyone enlighten me here. no need to open new thread.

i bought a benq xl2720 5 years ago, replacing my old samsung normal 24'' monitor.
both are monitors are using the same gpu at that time, gtx970.

i notice after changing to benq xl2720, the displays are more vibrant, colors are more lively. compared to the normal monitor, they look dull. all in all, expensive monitors are pleasant to the eye.

i guess with heavy price tag on monitor, you get what you paid for. all these while i always thought gpu are the hardware that gives better lively displays, not the monitor.
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post Aug 19 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 19 2020, 09:47 AM)
can anyone enlighten me here. no need to open new thread.

i bought a benq xl2720 5 years ago, replacing my old samsung normal 24'' monitor.
both are monitors are using the same gpu at that time, gtx970.

i notice after changing to benq xl2720, the displays are more vibrant, colors are more lively. compared to the normal monitor, they look dull. all in all, expensive monitors are pleasant to the eye.

i guess with heavy price tag on monitor, you get what you paid for. all these while i always thought gpu are the hardware that gives better lively displays, not the monitor.
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By lively, I take it you mean better colors.

I have the XL2411P, which uses a TN panel just like the XL2720. TN panels are commonly found in monitors catered for gaming because they support high refresh rates. The downside is usually that they don't have good colors. Now, the XL2720 has considerably good color for a TN panel like you noticed but you'd get better color if you went for something with an IPS panel like the LG 27GL850.


What panel was your Samsung monitor using?


IPS panels are now catching up, with more of them offering high refresh rates rivaling that of TN panels.


GPU is important to maintain high refresh rates at a given resolution when gaming. You will need a decent one if you intend to play at 4k60fps for a non esports title.
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post Aug 19 2020, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Aug 19 2020, 10:28 AM)
By lively, I take it you mean better colors.

I have the XL2411P, which uses a TN panel just like the XL2720. TN panels are commonly found in monitors catered for gaming because they support high refresh rates. The downside is usually that they don't have good colors. Now, the XL2720 has considerably good color for a TN panel like you noticed but you'd get better color if you went for something with an IPS panel like the LG 27GL850.
What panel was your Samsung monitor using?
IPS panels are now catching up, with more of them offering high refresh rates rivaling that of TN panels.
GPU is important to maintain high refresh rates at a given resolution when gaming. You will need a decent one if you intend to play at 4k60fps for a non esports title.
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dont remember but my samsung monitor is a cheapo type rm500 or below.

so, is my XL2720 relevant if lets say i wanna change my gpu to rtx 3070 in near future?

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post Aug 19 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 19 2020, 10:35 AM)
dont remember but my samsung monitor is a cheapo type rm500 or below.

so, is my XL2720 relevant if lets say i wanna change my gpu to rtx 3070 in near future?
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it is. it also depends on what you want. monitor tech is something you have to experience to grasp the improvements fully.

do you actually need really fast response times? this is one of the most important questions to ask yourself because companies convince people to buy these absurdly priced monitors based on gaming monikers even though the rest of the spec are mediocre

if you have a combined monitor + gpu budget of say, 5k. spending half of that on monitor instead of 70%+ on gpu will likely give the average consumer the better experience. that number is something i pull out of my ass, but i think you get my point. monitor quality output will suffer less with time, unlike your gpu's ability to meet game requirements
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post Aug 19 2020, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(i7xQTi @ Aug 19 2020, 12:01 PM)
it is. it also depends on what you want. monitor tech is something you have to experience to grasp the improvements fully.

do you actually need really fast response times? this is one of the most important questions to ask yourself because companies convince people to buy these absurdly priced monitors based on gaming monikers even though the rest of the spec are mediocre

if you have a combined monitor + gpu budget of say, 5k. spending half of that on monitor instead of 70%+ on gpu will likely give the average consumer the better experience. that number is something i pull out of my ass, but i think you get my point. monitor quality output will suffer less with time, unlike your gpu's ability to meet game requirements
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nope dont think fast response times are important to me for now.

but i somewhat agree on the statement that monitor must be compatible with the gpu too.
i learned that after upgrading my monitor to xl2720 while still using gtx970.

the color display is the game changer.

also thanks for your response. looks like i wont be changing my monitor anytime soon. its been 5 years and still going strong. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 19 2020, 10:35 AM)
dont remember but my samsung monitor is a cheapo type rm500 or below.

so, is my XL2720 relevant if lets say i wanna change my gpu to rtx 3070 in near future?
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So I just checked some specs.

You have a 1080p monitor that can push 144HZ.

Assuming you have a 970 now, I'd say that you wouldnt get your worth by upgrading to a 3070.
The extra money for those cards isn't really worth it if you're gaming at 1080p.

A 2070S would be a better deal. Some would recommend a 5700XT for value.

If you're going to change your monitor to something like an LG 27GL850 that supports 1440p, then buying the newer cards when they come out would be a good idea.

Honestly, there isnt a problem to continue gaming at 1080p, especially if your monitor is still running fine.
A majority of gamers still play at 1080p according to Steam surveys.
Just because gaming is moving towards 4k doesnt mean that support for 1080p is gonna stop for the many people playing at that resolution.
I'd just stick with 1080p until they find out a way to support high frame rates (240HZ) for 1440p and 4k for AAA games, which is think will take another 5 years.

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post Aug 19 2020, 02:13 PM

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Increase in monitor resolution also increases graphic card requirements. Anything higher than 1080p is less chance of hitting same FPS as refresh rate. Especially more demanding games.
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post Aug 19 2020, 05:12 PM

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1440 is the sweet spot for gamers. No? Why would someone game at 1080p if have enjoyed 1440p. The difference is noticeable
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:11 AM

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1440p is the sweet spot right now. Maybe in the coming years 4k will be the sweet spot. Lets hope at that time 4k monitor prices will reduce too
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post Sep 2 2020, 09:56 PM

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Never anticipated 3090 to be 8K gaming ready.

Damn, did I pull trigger too early on 1440p?
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post Sep 3 2020, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Sep 2 2020, 09:56 PM)
Never anticipated 3090 to be 8K gaming ready.

Damn, did I pull trigger too early on 1440p?
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Marketing only, 8K demo by nvidia is DLSS 2.0 upscaled, which not all game support and probably wont be for next couple of years.
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Sep 2 2020, 09:56 PM)
Never anticipated 3090 to be 8K gaming ready.

Damn, did I pull trigger too early on 1440p?
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this is a bad mindset to have lmao
ultra high res gaming suffers from diminishing returns just like anything. the complexity associated with an 8k display infers size increments, that affects your viewing distance, which further dilutes the value of buying larger displays

given that current gen gpus suffers to even max 1080p, "futureproofing" for 8k is not realistic, especially since you're talking about a corporate entity here who's well known for it's attempt at monopoly. they lie, and they lie a lot

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