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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Aug 9 2020, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 9 2020, 08:18 PM)
It was initially TNB's intention to expand their Allo Fibre coverage to housing gardens which were deprived from TM Unifi coverage for years up until 2020 without directly confronting TM head-on.

But as you can see, TM was caught with their "pants down" when they found out that TNB was actively expanding into their comfort zones. Only then they started waking up recently and did quick expansion and placed minimal numbers of FDPs around these areas as well as pulling new fibre cables into these housing gardens trying to deter TNB from entering there.

For all you know all these "EXCUSES" of port shortages and not enough demand for expansion are dirty corruption practices by TM.

They wanted to create fake demand telling people there's not enough of ports because of high demand in the area, those who wanted ports availability must either bribe their way to get those ports through agents by paying undertable fees, making excuses to minimize rollout commitments then telling the customers/developers that if they wanted it so desperately, they must jointly pay for the expansion to wire up their projects/homes.

Miraculously though when a competitor such as Allo came into the picture, they suddenly got shook and quickly pulled fibre cables into these areas without complains.

My advise to TNB Allo is since they initiate this challenge, go ahead and face their confrontations. They're at the losing end anyway. They try to beat you to getting these housing gardens to sign up and locked them down for the next 2 years, you can send out your brochures earlier too to make the people aware and educating them that your plans are much cheaper with symmetrical 100Mbps for only RM99 with a much more ADVANCE network then theirs.

Tell them about TM's unfair practices that requires 2 years lockdown contract with remaining months penalty for early termination. Tell them the cheap minimal installation works they provide compared to yours which covers wall sockets in your standard installations and the lousy equipment they're supplying now to their customers.

As you know the Chinese community in Ipoh will not easily commit to things. We know our stuff, the value we're getting for what we're paying for.
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Candy12, actually Allo have to do alot of promo in terms of letting people know who are they cos alot of ppl dont know their existence. True, Allo should be brace enough to head-on with TM but i once ask Allo cust service about providing my hse taman the service as it's cable have pass thru my taman and they reply "no demand, survey area before but to avail" excuses same like TM. I feel sad and angry to this answer as i have been staying home from more than 2 year without anyone coming or call for survey but this company can gv tis answer.😡
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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 9 2020, 09:29 PM)
Candy12, actually Allo have to do alot of promo in terms of letting people know who are they cos alot of ppl dont know their existence. True, Allo should be brace enough to head-on with TM but i once ask Allo cust service about providing my hse taman the service as it's cable have pass thru my taman and they reply "no demand, survey area before but to avail" excuses same like TM. I feel sad and angry to this answer as i have been staying home from more than 2 year without anyone coming or call for survey but this company can gv tis answer.😡
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I'm skeptical about the demand thing, but if they continue not to be not agressive in confronting TM by overlapping existing coverage with them their project might not work out as intended.

Also just like yours, my housing garden also has these fibre cables running in front which aren't TM fibre cables but green striped ones own by Maxis on TNB poles. They're either using their poles to carry the fibre to designated areas instead of burying them underground or using them as backhaul fibre to wire up mobile base stations which is what Maxis is dong in my area.

Before TM beats Allo to it with signups better be quick throw in the pamphlets and use sales people to go around the area meeting up house owners to inform them who you are.

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post Aug 10 2020, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 9 2020, 09:38 PM)
I'm skeptical about the demand thing, but if they continue not to be not agressive in confronting TM by overlapping existing coverage with them their project might not work out as intended.

Also just like yours, my housing garden also has these fibre cables running in front which aren't TM fibre cables but green striped ones own by Maxis on TNB poles. They're either using their poles to carry the fibre to designated areas instead of burying them underground or using them as backhaul fibre to wire up mobile base stations which is what Maxis is dong in my area.

Before TM beats Allo to it with signups better be quick throw in the pamphlets and use sales people to go around the area meeting up house owners to inform them who you are.
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Candy12, can i know where is your area maxis exchange station? And have you check before whether maxis have provide certain area fiber access to their network?

Though your recommend Allo to send out pamphlets quickly, in my opinion will not help much as you should know that a person will hardly believe it or the knowledge existence of the company. For example, if u tell ppl TNB have internet the first reaction "TNB got provide internet meh, they not only provide electricity kah" or "aiya, I trust TM only".
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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 10 2020, 09:43 AM)
Candy12, can i know where is your area maxis exchange station? And have you check before whether maxis have provide certain area fiber access to their network?

Though your recommend Allo to send out pamphlets quickly, in my opinion will not help much as you should know that a person will hardly believe it or the knowledge existence of the company. For example, if u tell ppl TNB have internet the first reaction "TNB got provide internet meh, they not only provide electricity kah" or "aiya, I trust TM only".
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I think People are willing to try if the prices seems attractive enough, Perhaps Rm50 for 50Mbps plan? tongue.gif
Way Cheaper then the RM69 That Streamyx are charging for 4Mbps
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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 10 2020, 09:43 AM)
Candy12, can i know where is your area maxis exchange station? And have you check before whether maxis have provide certain area fiber access to their network?

Though your recommend Allo to send out pamphlets quickly, in my opinion will not help much as you should know that a person will hardly believe it or the knowledge existence of the company. For example, if u tell ppl TNB have internet the first reaction "TNB got provide internet meh, they not only provide electricity kah" or "aiya, I trust TM only".
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Maxis's fixed line exchange is located somewhere in Medan Ipoh, behind the Aeon Jusco there nearby the PLUS highway exit.

In Ipoh, Maxis serves a few exclusive housing gardens with their fixed lines such as Pakatan Jaya, Bercham similar to that of Sierramas.The fibre which runs on TNB lines are used for mobile backhaul, not for consumer last mile.If you take a drive straight in from Mun Choong@ off Jln. Pasir Putih, the ending stretch of Tiger Lane you'll see TNB poles also with fibre optics but these fibre cables are green stripes one by Maxis.

About the pamphlet distribution and awareness idea, IMHO do make a difference if you target it with the right portion of audiences like the younger and tech-inclined middle age groups. Just look at the signups and interests at some of the housing gardens such as Tmn. Arkid and Menglembu, the response was quite overwhelming right?
Moreover the unique views on this topic was just about 14k today it's close to 16k already almost 2k views over the weekend. People are actually aware of this lurking here reading.


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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Aug 10 2020, 12:05 PM)
I think People are willing to try if the prices seems attractive enough, Perhaps Rm50 for 50Mbps plan? tongue.gif
Way Cheaper then the RM69 That Streamyx are charging for 4Mbps
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In Thailand, 100M/100M by AIS Work From Home promo only costs 399baht(RM53) per month.



They are also using the same fibre modem(ONT) as TNB Allo.


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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 10 2020, 12:14 PM)
In Thailand, 100M/100M by AIS Work From Home promo only costs 399baht(RM53) per month.



They are also using the same fibre modem(ONT) as TNB Allo.


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Wow! It was very cheap, if Allo follow this pricing TM will be shitting themselves. How Thailand able to come up with such low price while Malaysia can't?
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 10 2020, 12:50 PM)
Wow! It was very cheap, if Allo follow this pricing TM will be shitting themselves. How Thailand able to come up with such low price while Malaysia can't?
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I think you have to consider the Cost of Living in Thailand Rather than just straight convert to RM.

But yes why other Fiber provider are able to price their internet connection low when TM are not able to do that.
I think you know the Answer to that. dry.gif
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 10 2020, 12:50 PM)
Wow! It was very cheap, if Allo follow this pricing TM will be shitting themselves. How Thailand able to come up with such low price while Malaysia can't?
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Fair competition with many competing ISPs using their own fibre network.
In Thailand major cities, if you live in landed the poles in front of your house can have more than 5 different telcos delivering their service on their own separate independent fibre lines.

Got AIS, TOT, True, 3BB and CAT.

In Malaysia TNB want to pull another 2nd line into TM area already making so much noise.
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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Aug 10 2020, 12:53 PM)
I think you have to consider the Cost of Living in Thailand Rather than just straight convert to RM.

But yes why other Fiber provider are able to price their internet connection low when TM are not able to do that.
I think you know the Answer to that. dry.gif
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Bangkok costs of living already surpassed KL now with Chaing Mai also catching up.

Their MNCs over there are paying more than Malaysian MNCs now.
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 10 2020, 12:07 PM)
Maxis's fixed line exchange is located somewhere in Medan Ipoh, behind the Aeon Jusco there nearby the PLUS highway exit.

In Ipoh, Maxis serves a few exclusive housing gardens with their fixed lines such as Pakatan Jaya, Bercham similar to that of Sierramas.The fibre which runs on TNB lines are used for mobile backhaul, not for consumer last mile.If you take a drive straight in from Mun Choong@ off Jln. Pasir Putih, the ending stretch of Tiger Lane you'll see TNB poles also with fibre optics but these fibre cables are green stripes one by Maxis.

About the pamphlet distribution and awareness idea, IMHO do make a difference if you target it with the right portion of audiences like the younger and tech-inclined middle age groups. Just look at the signups and interests at some of the housing gardens such as Tmn. Arkid and Menglembu, the response was quite overwhelming right?
Moreover the unique views on this topic was just about 14k today it's close to 16k already almost 2k views over the weekend. People are actually aware of this lurking here reading.
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Candy12, thanks for the info on Maxis exchange. This is only my point of view, maxis should partner and let allo used the available fibre cable to expand to those area, making it a two way win-win situation like what maxis have sign mou with celcom and digi (https://www.lowyat.net/2020/206573/celcom-digi-maxis-fiber-infra-collaboration/). It will surely lower the cost of laying additional fibre cable and time.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 10 2020, 12:58 PM)
Bangkok costs of living already surpassed KL now with Chaing Mai also catching up.

Their MNCs over there are paying more than Malaysian MNCs now.
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Perhaps that's why their HSBB are much cheaper compared to Malaysia, The high cost of living cause people to be much more price conscious
on Services that they subscribe to.

I'm not sure "Fiber as a Utility" concept as a whole are known in Malaysia. Saw these Interesting Video from Snazzy Labs
where they peak into a Active Optical Network as supposed to Passive Optical Network that we are using. IMHO Fiber infra should be handle by 3rd/Goverment
that don't have interest in monopolize the area as a whole but make it accessible like water/electric.

Could be Cheaper in the long run eh?


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QUOTE(dave99021 @ Aug 10 2020, 01:07 PM)
Perhaps that's why their HSBB are much cheaper compared to Malaysia, The high cost of living cause people to be much more price conscious
on Services that they subscribe to.

I'm not sure "Fiber as a Utility" concept as a whole are known in Malaysia. Saw these Interesting Video from Snazzy Labs
where they peak into a Active Optical Network as supposed to Passive Optical Network that we are using. IMHO Fiber infra should be handle by 3rd/Goverment
that don't have interest in monopolize the area as a whole but make it accessible like water/electric.

Could be Cheaper in the long run eh?


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Active optical network not really cost effective today's world. The number of strands needed to pull from the nearest switch will incur much more investments which isn't really worth it other than doing backhauls and corporate leased lines.

Also passive optical networks can deliver in excess of 10Gbps upto 40Gbps bonding upto 4 lambdas today.
Home fibre subscriptions won't need that kind of speed for years to come.
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Jasilu90, how your internet? Any problem with it?
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 8 2020, 11:33 PM)
Like this?
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this result isnt fully accurate, due to testing using smartphone, smartphone has power saving features that would higher the ping result.

i just test it myself with unifi fibre, using power plug desktop wired lan, lowest 11ms, using windows 10 x64 intel battery powered laptop 5ghz wifi, lowest 13ms, using smartphone 5ghz wifi, lowest 21ms.

if turn on smartphone high performance mode at battery setting, the lowest ping time would be 15ms, turn on power saving mode or turn off power saving mode which also mean normal mode, has almost same ping time, but turn on power saving mode disable background process, would improve ping time a little bit.

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Aug 10 2020, 01:06 PM)
Candy12, thanks for the info on Maxis exchange. This is only my point of view, maxis should partner and let allo used the available fibre cable to expand to those area, making it a two way win-win situation like what maxis have sign mou with celcom and digi (https://www.lowyat.net/2020/206573/celcom-digi-maxis-fiber-infra-collaboration/). It will surely lower the cost of laying additional fibre cable and time.
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The Maxis staff got told me before he says not enough spare fibre strands to do fixed broadband services. They're more into preparing 5G deployment in future with fibre backhaul. If need to deploy fixed line fibre services need a new cable with extra dark strands to deploy FTTH.

Current fibre is on active optical network node for mobile backhaul. Port to port 1:1 based back at the exchange.
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QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Aug 11 2020, 12:09 PM)
this result isnt fully accurate, due to testing using smartphone, smartphone has power saving features that would higher the ping result.

i just test it myself with unifi fibre, using power plug desktop wired lan, lowest 11ms, using windows 10 x64 intel battery powered laptop 5ghz wifi, lowest 13ms, using smartphone 5ghz wifi, lowest 21ms.

if turn on smartphone high performance mode at battery setting, the lowest ping time would be 15ms, turn on power saving mode or turn off power saving mode which also mean normal mode, has almost same ping time, but turn on power saving mode disable background process, would improve ping time a little bit.
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Try this:

http://www.gcping.com/

You can test CDN and DNS latency around the region and globally using this:

https://cloudharmony.com/network-3m-from-ripe
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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Aug 11 2020, 11:24 AM)
Jasilu90, how your internet? Any problem with it?
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so far so good😂
nothings need to complaint 😂

My neighour had install modem & router with 500mbps plan,download speed can go to 300mbps (maybe equipment cant support higher speed)

router is same with me , aslo is Tp Link acrher C6 😂
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Aug 11 2020, 02:55 PM)
so far so good😂
nothings need to complaint 😂

My neighour had install modem & router with 500mbps plan,download speed can go to 300mbps (maybe equipment cant support higher speed)

router is same with me , aslo is Tp Link acrher C6 😂
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Try this one from CBB's own in house test site:

https://www.citybroadband.my/support/speed-test/
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post Aug 11 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Aug 11 2020, 02:59 PM)
Try this one from CBB's own in house test site:

https://www.citybroadband.my/support/speed-test/
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I test my mobile data speed test and this the result: 😂
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