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It's time to stop India IT workforce into Malaysia
 
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post Jun 15 2020, 03:50 PM, updated 6y ago

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Besides stopping inflow of Rohingyas/Bangladesh/other foreigners into Malaysia, I suggest we also stop India Indian inflow for IT /engineering jobs well. What say u? Good idea?

If India company like Tata want to open in Malaysia, can, but whole Malaysia team must be Malaysians. Good idea?
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post Jun 15 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(wualalala @ Jun 15 2020, 03:55 PM)
dream on when malaysia have not enough IT professionals to meet the demand.
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post Jun 15 2020, 03:59 PM

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post Jun 15 2020, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(wualalala @ Jun 15 2020, 03:55 PM)
dream on when malaysia have not enough IT professionals to meet the demand.
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Offer ciput starting pay, then wonder why not enough people joining the field.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(wualalala @ Jun 15 2020, 03:55 PM)
dream on when malaysia have not enough IT professionals to meet the demand.
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got also work outside Malaysia already... kek

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post Jun 15 2020, 04:01 PM

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India have very high pay as expat...
Ini macam how we have chance?
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:02 PM

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dont just target India, target all.. u wanna win votes or not laugh.gif
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:02 PM

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Even Microsoft, Google rely on Indian workforce
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:03 PM

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Our forces good enough and cheap enough or not ?
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:03 PM

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Now Intel kena control by India people.

They even kicked Jim Keller out.

https://wccftech.com/exclusive-intel-intern...-new-structure/
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(wualalala @ Jun 15 2020, 03:55 PM)
dream on when malaysia have not enough IT professionals to meet the demand.
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Problem is when we have local companies with local IT teams who sell and outsource their operations to Indian companies like Tech Mahindra then pretend like its still a local Malaysian operation. Certain telco did this recently, but they're not the first.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:07 PM

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Later some peoples tak puas hati coz it support can't speak supreme language how?

Like foodpanda cs issue lmao
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:07 PM

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i think there should be a threshold for salary ! For example if you want to bring Indian expat maybe min salary 20k?
SUSUnstability
post Jun 15 2020, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(wualalala @ Jun 15 2020, 03:55 PM)
dream on when malaysia have not enough IT professionals to meet the demand.
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Who say we don't have enough? Every year thousands of IT grads come from local and private unis.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:10 PM

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Yes, and these India people has taken a lot of the upper M40 jobs. A lot of these India top positions are around rm20k and above.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 04:10 PM)
Yes, and these India people has taken a lot of the upper M40 jobs. A lot of these India top positions are around rm20k and above.
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my company same position. India celery 12k, malaysian 4.5k ... same level same experience same position... GG..
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(macforcheap @ Jun 15 2020, 04:07 PM)
Later some peoples tak puas hati coz it support can't speak supreme language how?

Like foodpanda cs issue lmao
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Hire from Taylor/Inti/Sunway then no problem.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 04:08 PM)
Who say we don't have enough? Every year thousands of IT grads come from local and private unis.
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thing is, they boleh pakai or not? My bro works in IT industry and have had new staff coming in but bodoh sial, code cacat AF. He surprised they can graduate at all (actually he also surprised that some of his coursemates could even graduate with an IT degree given how badly they performed in their group assignments, he honestly feels like quite a few actually graduated without being able to code properly). This why Malaysia I feel so many apps/webpage, UI not user friendly or just cacat as shit. so much bloody problems.


Just need to regulate the talents coming in, I am okay with talent coming in if the local talent cannot meet the requirements by the companies, do something like UK la, make employer apply for the special visa and have restrictions on their salary thresholds.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(potatoespotate @ Jun 15 2020, 04:14 PM)
thing is, they boleh pakai or not? My bro works in IT industry and have had new staff coming in but bodoh sial, code cacat AF. He surprised they can graduate at all (actually he also surprised that some of his coursemates could even graduate with an IT degree given how badly they performed in their group assignments, he honestly feels like quite a few actually graduated without being able to code properly). This why Malaysia I feel so many apps/webpage, UI not user friendly or just cacat as shit. so much bloody problems.
Just need to regulate the talents coming in, I am okay with talent coming in if the local talent cannot meet the requirements by the companies, do something like UK la, make employer apply for the special visa and have restrictions on their salary thresholds.
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India fresh grad also not that wonderful. Worked with few of them before, can't really say impressed.
For Malaysia talents, must know where to look. Things like going to form 6, coming from sjk ©, college exposure can help identify good candidates.
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post Jun 15 2020, 04:28 PM

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Like my colleague said, the good one already went to USA. Only the bad one come to Malaysia. 😂😂😂

Worked with some before, some are good. But some really bad... act/talk if they know everything, but in reality they sucks. And they must have tea break at 3pm. (I believe this is not our culture, afaik)
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The thing with indian IT is they willing to start from low with very low pay. That is why they get all the low cost outsourcing contracts and opportunities. Then, they gained experience and is able to compete for positions that required more experience

Our fresh grad here willing to take a rm1.5k job? They will never get the experience required if they are jobless while waiting for a 3k offer but rm1.5k really hard to survive in kl without living with parents because starbucks and city is a necessity
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post Jun 16 2020, 01:26 AM

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no.

cheap are welcome.
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post Jun 16 2020, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 03:50 PM)
Besides stopping inflow of Rohingyas/Bangladesh/other foreigners into Malaysia, I suggest we also stop India Indian inflow for IT /engineering jobs well. What say u? Good idea?

If India company like Tata want to open in Malaysia, can, but whole Malaysia team must be Malaysians. Good idea?
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They are already here as TCS. Worked in a project together with them before for an IT project in one govt agency. Part paling best bila our local Indian bertekat dengan dia orang.
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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 03:50 PM)
Besides stopping inflow of Rohingyas/Bangladesh/other foreigners into Malaysia, I suggest we also stop India Indian inflow for IT /engineering jobs well. What say u? Good idea?

If India company like Tata want to open in Malaysia, can, but whole Malaysia team must be Malaysians. Good idea?
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They provide alternative cheap labor for our employers.
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post Jun 16 2020, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 15 2020, 11:03 AM)
Now Intel kena control by India people.

They even kicked Jim Keller out.

https://wccftech.com/exclusive-intel-intern...-new-structure/
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Got a call from their recruiter. However, role will need to report to VP in India. Seems their group VP is based there now.

QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 11:10 AM)
Yes, and these India people has taken a lot of the upper M40 jobs. A lot of these India top positions are around rm20k and above.
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What roles? Developer?

QUOTE(popopi @ Jun 15 2020, 11:11 AM)
my company same position. India celery 12k, malaysian 4.5k ... same level same experience same position... GG..
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Developer role?
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post Jun 16 2020, 01:42 AM

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post Jun 16 2020, 01:46 AM

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you know why india triumphed over malaysian programmer?

because they pandai tai chi punya. haha

pro taichi and soft skill la. jilat upper MNC upper management for example.

i bet all banking system in malaysian have pro taichi level india haha..



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post Jun 16 2020, 09:35 AM

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Many benefits by bringing in foreign companies. Technology transfer and increase our competitiveness. They can also contribute tax to gov coffers.

But protectionism is more important I guess. Even though I disagree


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post Jun 16 2020, 09:43 AM

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Malaysian yg betol2 expert IT pun sudah lari ke luar negara
Yg tinggal tu separuh tong je
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post Jun 16 2020, 09:44 AM

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Sorry, we are not cheap enough. Cannot stop. biggrin.gif
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Oh no... it's retarded
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QUOTE(sheeva86 @ Jun 15 2020, 04:02 PM)
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Hmmm have you worked with expat Indian in local IT scene?

Even had the chance to work with those employed by partners located overseas. Basically clueless. Talk so much but no point, just round and round egg-first-or-chicken-first kind of "discussion".

If given choice, I won't. Not anymore.

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QUOTE(doomvein @ Jun 16 2020, 01:46 AM)
you know why india triumphed over malaysian programmer?

because they pandai tai chi punya. haha

pro taichi and soft skill la. jilat upper MNC upper management for example.

i bet all banking system in malaysian have pro taichi level india haha..
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This as well. Simple things also taichi because "not my department" and end up have to go to CCB because suddenly they need to discuss which department should be authorised to handle it.
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read this topic, Liamness and lilredridinghood . basically the influx of indian IT workers , is no different from china bringing in their own workers and supplies for projects like HSR and ECRL.
thats the effect of globalization and free trade.
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QUOTE(not slow n timid @ Jun 16 2020, 04:25 PM)
read this topic, Liamness and lilredridinghood . basically the influx of indian IT workers , is no different from china bringing in their own workers and supplies for projects like HSR and ECRL.
thats the effect of globalization and free trade.
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 16 2020, 05:10 PM)
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hi liar still waiting for you to show proof
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hi, can you do the needful ?
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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 04:20 PM)
India fresh grad also not that wonderful. Worked with few of them before, can't really say impressed.
For Malaysia talents, must know where to look. Things like going to form 6, coming from sjk ©, college exposure can help identify good candidates.
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Dude that is just stupid. If coming from SK automatic not good? Bull shit la
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The problem is... these Indian nationals, once they come over and get some management roles, they will slowly bring in their pipu from home country.

Then eventually, the whole company is ruled by them d
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Jun 16 2020, 06:32 PM)
hi, can you do the needful ?
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Hi can you check the same?
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QUOTE(not slow n timid @ Jun 16 2020, 06:14 PM)
hi liar still waiting for you to show proof
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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 03:50 PM)
Besides stopping inflow of Rohingyas/Bangladesh/other foreigners into Malaysia, I suggest we also stop India Indian inflow for IT /engineering jobs well. What say u? Good idea?

If India company like Tata want to open in Malaysia, can, but whole Malaysia team must be Malaysians. Good idea?
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Yes. Please do the needful for the same.

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post Jun 16 2020, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 04:10 PM)
Yes, and these India people has taken a lot of the upper M40 jobs. A lot of these India top positions are around rm20k and above.
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Agree for the same.
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 16 2020, 08:10 PM)
Hi racist
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post Jun 16 2020, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Unstability @ Jun 15 2020, 04:50 PM)
Besides stopping inflow of Rohingyas/Bangladesh/other foreigners into Malaysia, I suggest we also stop India Indian inflow for IT /engineering jobs well. What say u? Good idea?

If India company like Tata want to open in Malaysia, can, but whole Malaysia team must be Malaysians. Good idea?
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No.....racist ts.
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Thebos is indian the rest also
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Maybank IT guy lagi champion, become HOD, then proceed to hire his friends from india.

Now become little india already.
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Honestly, its better to stop them. They have a track record of bringing over their whole colony to the company. Only handful of them have the skills, the rest tai chi and talk like mr know-it-all but trash.
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QUOTE(Hardcore Leveling Warrior @ Jun 16 2020, 09:46 PM)
Maybank IT guy lagi champion, become HOD, then proceed to hire his friends from india.

Now become little india already.
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Unlike low level jobs that not many Malaysians want to do, practices like this Maybank has to be checked.
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I am not trying to be racists (but I probably am); noticed that if Indian gets hold of position (or car park operator!), soon, it will also be filled with more Indians.


(now, to appear as less racist)
If Chinese, they will put skills and "profit" above ethnicity, so can expect mixed workforce.


(but then to be fair to all 3, have to be racist again)
If Malay - i never paid attention to be honest - I think will be filled with malays as well.
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Many angmoh MNCs are very keen on promoting diversity in their workforce.

Most asian MNCs on the other hand will just look at the bottom line, the requested salary.
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Jun 16 2020, 06:37 PM)
The problem is... these Indian nationals, once they come over and get some management roles, they will slowly bring in their pipu from home country.

Then eventually, the whole company is ruled by them d
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Lol 86% says yes.

 

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