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niakulah
post Jan 16 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Rexoz @ Jan 16 2021, 01:24 PM)
Yeah im waiting for extras after they ship to try my luck. Just got myself some interest in this custom keyboard thingy recently and somehow ended watching videos and searching for it haha, guess im late for this design haha.
The aftermarket is putting up quite a price hike, how much do ppl mark up from initial group buy price?
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Ok, didn't realise there's a Nautilus R2 being manufactured now.

Well this guy sold his Nautilus R1 used for USD200.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comment...tm_source=share
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post Jan 16 2021, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jan 16 2021, 01:53 PM)
Ok, didn't realise there's a Nautilus R2 being manufactured now.

Well this guy sold his Nautilus R1 used for USD200.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comment...tm_source=share
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Yeah saw that, hoping for R3 and extra. USD 200 is too much tho hahaha
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post Jan 18 2021, 01:53 AM

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after tests, i think cherry mx hyperglide (with black nylon housings) is still living up to their reputation. it's similar to good batches of retooled black (relatively less scratchy than normal mx), but with improvements that double up the shelf life from 50mil key strokes, to 100mil. price wise, it's relatively affordable. (around 1.5myr each)

in terms of smoothness at stock, cherry mx hyperglide is no where near more modern sp-star and jwk. (to give a better picture, cherry mx < sp-star/jwick < jwk recolored) i compare these four, without gateron, because they have relatively similar wobble-free features imo. however, after simple tuning, it's similar to sp-star. (tested with krytox gpl 204g0, springs swapped to sprit progressive 72p, lubed with krytox gpl 105) note that as of this writing, newer batches of sp-star have increased amount of lube applied at factory.

as always, smoothness is not everything in mechanical key switches imo. there are other qualities in cherry mx hyperglide that i like. it's still my preferred base for custom switches, with relatively less stem wobbles, and no switch top wobbles. to me, the nylon housing produce decent and typing feel and sound, unique to cherry mx.

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post Jan 18 2021, 02:14 PM

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post Jan 18 2021, 03:26 PM

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To share a bit on what little experience I have, here's my comment on 3 different silent switches of varying pricing.
Ttc silent red v2 (usd.0.41} on a tecware phantom elite
Cherry mx silent red {usd0. 54} on a YMDK wood case
Zeal Sakurios {usd1. 20} on a Mojo75

I like silent keyboards. Having built 3 different keyboards with these 3 types, in terms of sound, there's very little appreciable difference between them. They all work well for their primary objective which is to be quiet.
Sure the sakurios might be smother, but the cheapo ttc does not irk me at all.
Also an expensive machine cnc aluminum case will only look and feel better than a plastic one. When you type its about the same.
What you should really spend your money on are the stabs. At least Durocks.
Moral of the story - - > diminishing returns
Disclaimer : High tolerance to scratchiness. No experience on tactiles, so there's no thock sound I'm after.

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post Jan 19 2021, 12:24 PM

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Hi, anyone provide repair services in cheras area? i got few switch to replace.
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post Jan 19 2021, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(wolfseed @ Jan 19 2021, 12:24 PM)
Hi, anyone provide repair services in cheras area? i got few switch to replace.
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Grexer might be able to help you out
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post Jan 20 2021, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jan 18 2021, 03:26 PM)
To share a bit on what little experience I have, here's my comment on 3 different silent switches of varying pricing.
Ttc silent red v2 (usd.0.41} on a tecware phantom elite
Cherry mx silent red {usd0. 54} on a YMDK wood case
Zeal Sakurios {usd1. 20} on a Mojo75

I like silent keyboards. Having built 3 different keyboards with these 3 types, in terms of sound, there's very little appreciable difference between them. They all work well for their primary objective which is to be quiet.
Sure the sakurios might be smother, but the cheapo ttc does not irk me at all.
Also an expensive machine cnc aluminum case will only look and feel better than a plastic one. When you type its about the same.
What you should really spend your money on are the stabs. At least Durocks.
Moral of the story - - > diminishing returns
Disclaimer : High tolerance to scratchiness. No experience on tactiles, so there's no thock sound I'm after.
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things that we actually like might not be expensive.

in terms of practicality, yes, diminishing returns might happen once you go beyond mid-tier stuff. it's more obvious nowadays, because mid-tier stuff are getting better and catching up fast. still, some prefer to spend extras to go high end, for various reasons. it's just preferences at the end of the day smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2021, 03:24 PM

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Anyone know where to buy Cherry MX Hyperglide Black 3 pin now? I was looking for them and only available on ukkeycaps - Β£60 for 120pcs sad.gif
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post Jan 21 2021, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(vhnt @ Jan 21 2021, 03:24 PM)
Anyone know where to buy Cherry MX Hyperglide Black 3 pin now? I was looking for them and only available on ukkeycaps - Β£60 for 120pcs sad.gif
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it's better to get from keys.my. well, they will have 5-pin, not 3-pin. the first batch was sold out; waiting for them to restock first.

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post Jan 21 2021, 05:20 PM

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Anyone know of any way to confirm key chatter? I am occasionally getting double nn and mm from my keeb, but testing with Switch Hitter does not show anything. I'm starting to wonder is it chatter or is it just my fingers too fat user error.
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post Jan 21 2021, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jan 21 2021, 05:20 PM)
Anyone know of any way to confirm key chatter? I am occasionally getting double nn and mm from my keeb, but testing with Switch Hitter does not show anything. I'm starting to wonder is it chatter or is it just my fingers too fat user error.
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it's likely that the spring weight being too light for you. i think.

i have limited experience about this. believe it or not, i only experienced 2 incidents that were related to key chattering. the first one was gateron red with stock springs. once springs were swapped, problem's gone. another one was suspected to be related to firmware or controller, but i am lazy to find out.
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post Jan 21 2021, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 21 2021, 05:55 PM)
it's likely that the spring weight being too light for you. i think.

i have limited experience about this. believe it or not, i only experienced 2 incidents that were related to key chattering. the first one was gateron red with stock springs. once springs were swapped, problem's gone. another one was suspected to be related to firmware or controller, but i am lazy to find out.
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Could be. I'm a pretty heavy typer. I'm already on 67g though.
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post Jan 21 2021, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jan 21 2021, 06:33 PM)
Could be. I'm a pretty heavy typer. I'm already on 67g though.
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oh. 67g is almost like my upper limit of comfort for linear switches.

if the spring weight is not an issue, then the next common one should be dust getting into switches. however the chance might be even lesser.
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post Jan 24 2021, 06:02 PM

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my mx-red switch is registering some double input, clean it it became ok but after a while it turned bad again.

pull out my cap and realised some part of the backplate has rusty sign.. not sure if anyone have spilled anything on it.. It's one of my favorite Mechanical keyboard i bought many years ago
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post Jan 24 2021, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 24 2021, 06:02 PM)
my mx-red switch is registering some double input, clean it it became ok but after a while it turned bad again.

pull out my cap and realised some part of the backplate has rusty sign.. not sure if anyone have spilled anything on it.. It's one of my favorite Mechanical keyboard i bought many years ago
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maybe desolder, then replace it with unused key switches if you wanted to.

edit: as for the backplate, it's better to sand the rust off and repaint it. rust can spread with time, it's better to do it as early as possible.


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post Jan 25 2021, 10:54 AM

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Hi guys, I'm new on this, previously also use those "gaming brand" like razer and cooler master.

One day, shoppe or lazada suddenly show me keychron, then I try to Google these, now I know keychron, leopold and etc.. these brand and make me feel like want to change keyboard.

I'm interested on keychron k1 low profile but I dilemma because most of the time I play my pc for gaming especially fps. So I curious that, these professional KB suitable for gaming? Wireless have delay? Low profile KB is okay for gaming?

I'm sorry that so many questions because I have no knowledge about mechanical KB. I'm not doubt that these professional KB brands but I just not sure that suitable for gaming or not?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(hiroka88 @ Jan 25 2021, 10:54 AM)
So I curious that, these professional KB suitable for gaming? Wireless have delay? Low profile KB is okay for gaming?
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Mech kb are extremely suitable for gamers. Most if not all pro gamers use mech kb.
Bluetooth kb is not suitable for fps. If you want wireless, you need to get the logitech ones that uses RF but they're more expensive.
Low profile has no bearing for gaming other than being lower which is a personal comfort thing.

If you can go to a shop to feel a clicky vs tactile vs linear switch, it'll help you in your switch choive.
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post Jan 25 2021, 05:30 PM

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Love this keyboard a lot!


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post Jan 25 2021, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Jan 25 2021, 05:30 PM)
Love this keyboard a lot!
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keychron!!! which switch?

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