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post Jun 14 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 14 2021, 09:10 PM)
well priorities man. lol. going customs mean diving deeper.  icon_question.gif
+ i dont type a lot nowadays compare to before. so not much use of a good kibod anyway. haha

hope covid dies soon so i can try all ur kibods. keep growing them man.
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it's fine; you didn't miss anything smile.gif

yes, once the situation is more stable, sure. now my build #23 is already in progress LOL

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post Jun 14 2021, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 14 2021, 09:35 PM)
lol. that will last u generations.

100 years later, LYN Mech Kibod Klab V420, horns jr jr jr jr jr jr will use ur kibod still.
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.. by then i'm not sure if PC still use keyboards as input device or not LOL maybe playing games all use voice control already, "aiming, piang! piang! piang!" (sniper in battlefield 2121)

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post Jun 15 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(cat_food_lover @ Jun 15 2021, 10:56 AM)
Let me share something interesting.
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All i need to do will be sit & relax, he will fit in everything and deliver by today or tmrw.  thumbup.gif
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nice this one is new stuff at pre-order stage. as long as you're ok with the layout, then it's all good.

for key cap replacement, just take note of the non-standard bottom row before purchase. it shouldn't be a big deal, as plenty of key cap sets have those keys already.
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post Jun 17 2021, 11:00 PM

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from those shiny keycaps, obviously 60% is good enough for most of us biggrin.gif

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post Jun 18 2021, 03:17 PM

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star60 has arrived. i have posted its information in a previous post.

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it's a relatively hefty top-mount kit, with a 2-piece case and acrylic diffuser plate. stock screws for case and plate are philip-head.

from the look of the free space to secure top plate to the top aluminum piece, we can add o-rings to each screw for plate, so that it has some levels of flexes. (longer screws are needed)

for the price, it's good stuff imo (if you liked gk64 layout). the case fits other 60% pcbs as well, like dz60 and yd60mq. custom plates will allow you to fit other layouts.
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post Jun 19 2021, 12:57 AM

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star60, completed.

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edit: finally, the lube side effects are almost gone. the typing feel is getting better, and sound is becoming louder (freshly lubed switches are relatively muted)


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post Jun 21 2021, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 21 2021, 01:12 PM)
Working on site in the office today. My setup.
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Took me a few days to get used to the split. Now I'm getting 80+ on monkeytype which is normal for me.
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memang bergaya haha
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post Jun 21 2021, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 21 2021, 06:27 PM)
hari hari, hari raya !
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kalau jadi pastinya kite sume sentiasa bahagia hahaha

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another up-coming hi-pro set from melgeek, called mg salmon. https://www.melgeek.com/collections/group-b...set-melgeek-com

i guess not many know this: their mda profile caps have a good characteristic: the modifier and space bar key caps are able to grab stabilizer stems securely. this helps reduce some stabilizer issues, like see-saw effects, and provides good up-down key movements.
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post Jun 23 2021, 03:19 PM

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here's a quick note on the current trends of custom springs.

to get everyone on the same page, my references on force curves are based on the one at sprit designs, https://www.spritdesigns.com/mx. currently, we have 5 main types of custom springs: linear rated, progressive, complex, long/slow curved, and multistage (M0/1/2; there are differences between these variants, check the graphs to find out).

as of this writing, multistage and progressive springs are the focus of the expansion of choices in custom springs. manufacturers also started to use springs other than the usual linear rated ones. currently, there are 2-stage (gateron silver pro; giant v4), and 3-stage (jwick queen). in general, besides typical characteristics of long/slow curved springs, multistage springs have another characteristic: there are at least 2 force curves during key travel. from the graphs, the force curve changes near actuation point.

in terms of progressive springs, one unique custom spring is the combination of long and progressive, made by lumia, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=648273243443 . this one is unique because it's long, and it's progressive; also, more coils are present at both ends, not at the usual one side.
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post Jun 24 2021, 12:54 PM

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CX60 (CX60-VIA) unofficial QMK source code; code cleanup by myself. tested the code for a while; so far so good.

disclaimers: this qmk source code is unofficial, without proper tests and verifications. hence, use everything in the share at your own risks.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qos...VFbmNuWq2eeqya5

- CX60 PCB link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=641932740480
- added Capslock RGB underglow indicator mod by Dominic Lee/MYMKB (keymap directory: via_caps)
- the qmk firmwares were compiled with qmk 0.13.14


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post Jun 29 2021, 12:03 AM

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i have successfully ported CX60 to support Vial, https://get.vial.today/

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the main problem for now is that i can only compile Vial-enabled firmware in Linux; still no luck with msys2.
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post Jun 29 2021, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 29 2021, 12:53 PM)
Short review of the 4 tactile switches that I considered for my endgame board.
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L-R Cherry RGB Brown, Outemu Sky with clear no slot top, JWK Shogoki, Gazzew Boba U4T

1. Cherry browns were my first love so it will always hold a special place in my heart. These particular switches have generic 67g gold springs, bag lubed in 105, housings are lubed with 205G0, and filmed with TX films. They are smooth, light tactiles and with the white nylon bottoms, have a nice thock to them, and very low wobble after filming. With a bit (a lot actually) of work, this is a switch that I really love to use. My baseline to compare the other switches to.

2. Outemu Sky. Removed the original nylon top and replaced with clear no slot tops also from Outemu. Both components were developed in collaboration with Gazzew. I guess you could say it is the spiritual successor of the Boba U4T. Despite having a nylon bottom, this switch does not sound very nice to me. And the tactile bump feels a bit weird to me even after lubing. I think the start of the bump is a bit 'sharp'? It kinda feels like it is about to get stuck, then you overcome the bump and bottom out.

3. JWK Shogoki. These were from a GB. JWK Rara recolored to match the colors from Neon Genesis Evangelion (forgive me if I got that wrong, I'm not a fan of this anime). With a special 65g linear switch from Thic Thock. Covid delays plus lousy GB planning by Thic Thock (and lousy communication with me personally) meant that these switches arrived very late, so I ended up building with the U4Ts before these even arrived. And I must say I'm glad I did so. These were my first JWK switches and the legendary smoothness of the housing is well warranted. But other than that, just like the Outemu Sky, it did not deliver a nice sound despite a nylon bottom. To my ears, even my Cherry RGB Browns sounded better. Add to that, this is the first switch that I bought (including testers) that actually have a noticeable spring noise. I did not lube as I plan to sell it off, but I am nevertheless disappointed. Even unlube Cherries do not have this issue to me. The bump is nice and light though. Very slightly more tactile than the browns.

4. Gazzew Boba U4T. My new favourites. Long pole stems in a proprietary nylon blend housings. The pole bottom out delivers on the Thocks. Already smooth without lube, after lubing it is even smoother and sounds better. Very tight tolerances, no filming needed. And with very very light lube to the tactile bumps, a small amount of tactility is lost and smoothness gained, a tactical decision. Coupled with a light (to me) 62g spring, I'm getting the light tactile that I want, no wobble and beautiful sound. The only downside is the tops are opaque which I wanted clear for lighting purposes, but with my custom clear acrylic case, it turns out that didn't matter after all.
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it's good to find out your favorites, out of the sea of switches (or other parts of your boards). for no. 3, it might be due to the leaf, not spring. we can always make springs to go quiet with lubing.

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post Jun 30 2021, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 30 2021, 07:33 AM)
Oh for sure we can. But all the switches I like sounded good stock, lubing and other work make them sound much better. I guess I was just disappointed because of the high expectations from the hype of the GB.
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yeah hypes. eventually we will just accept the fact that most of the times, hypes are just words, unless proven otherwise by ourselves.

i have been disappointed many times. luckily for me, few of those times, good stuff existed.

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post Jun 30 2021, 10:50 PM

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now they have changed the thickness in the description for the new epbt double-shot abs set, from 1.1mm to 1.5mm, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=650012367264

however, epbt double-shot abs cherry profile keycaps always have 2 different thicknesses: the thinner bottom part, which is 1.1mm, and the top part that has a thickness of 1.5mm. the feel, imo, is like a full 1.5mm. the main reason why they do this is to reduce interference caused by north-facing switch orientation to ASDF row (home row), when using cherry-profile keycaps.

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post Jul 4 2021, 04:38 PM

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starting from today, CX60 source code is now officially a part of QMK source distribution, https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/ma.../keyboards/cx60

thanks to Y.O.N for the helps; and thanks to QMK reviewers (drashna, fauxpark) for helping us to get the codes optimized.

community efforts are always the best. now i will proceed to the next steps: Via and Vial.

edit:

we are glad that Vial is very linear with our submission, it's done: https://github.com/vial-kb/vial-qmk/tree/vial/keyboards/cx60


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post Jul 5 2021, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 5 2021, 08:43 PM)
Ha! Thic Thock themselves have posted that their current line of springs is less than perfect when used in JWK switches!

From their latest Discord announcement:

"TT Spring V2
We are going to bring something new to the market very soon. Arrangements and details as follows,

We are going to dish out a lineup that is made specifically for JWK switches, meanwhile still retain the Cherry standard spring we are offering at the moment. What's the difference? The difference is that the internal structure of JWK switches are generally different than of Cherry MX. Our current lineup caters mostly of the Cherry MX switches. When it is used in JWK switches, there are still noticeable pings, which is why we are offering JWK switches spring, in hopes of eliminating the unwanted spring ping, as well as offering better compatibility -> performance with the JWK lineups"
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maybe it's like the case of kailh box switches.

however, it also sounded like no one did anything called qc in the process. well, maybe some one did, but the batch was different from the actual one.

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post Jul 10 2021, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(cat_food_lover @ Jul 10 2021, 02:00 AM)
Update over here! got my keyboard not more than 5 days! Nice RGB lol
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Total with shipping spent about RM850 for both  rclxub.gif
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as long as they are working well for you, it's good enough smile.gif

tbh, the base costs of me building my 64-key bare bone is around 250 to 350myr each (depending on parts that i choose; just pcb, plate, plate foam, stabilizers; costs of switches, and consumables for mods are not included)

it's a hobby to me, so it's just a small fraction of price to pay for enjoying the whole tune-and-build processes, and the satisfaction when expected outcomes are achieved smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2021, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Decennt @ Jul 10 2021, 09:17 PM)
Hi, noobie here. Been using mkb's with cheapo blues for a few years now and want to switch to linear. Looking for a keyboard with these features;

- hot swappable
- compact (ish)
- has arrow keys
- RGB
- Wireless 2.4G
- Budget RM350~

Saw this taobao mkb floating around here and kinda interested in it since it looks like it matches most of my spec but but don't know what the options are cuz I can't read Mandarin and also not familiar with TTC switches/ colors. Can someone advise me on which option to choose for best silent linears or tactiles? also does the keyboard comes with lubed switches/stabs?

Might order this through an agent. Already have the keycaps.

tq

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i think cat_food_lover can help you with that, with better insights.

QUOTE(cat_food_lover @ Jul 10 2021, 10:25 PM)
Yup, for newbies like me, the PBT caps itself cost me about 150; damn hurt!

But after a while when i saw someone bought a set of mechanical keyboard about 1k, getting better after that  whistling.gif
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haha

there are many types of users in the mkb community, from those who just want a prebuilt that meets their needs, to those who look for the best possible options for themselves in every department. most of the times, individual choices depend heavily on preferenes, experience, and expectations.

i do hope beginners learn by understanding the basics of mkb at their own pace, instead of chasing blindly after hear-says and hypes. this hobby is not really a rabbit hole. it's user choices that make it look like one.
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post Jul 11 2021, 01:24 PM

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as of this writing, the better pcb-mount screw-in stabilizers are:

1. everglide crystal v2;
2. equalz v2/v3.

the above are designed wire blockers, to prevent the wires from popping out.

between the two revisions of equalz stabs, it's better to get v3 for relatively straight wires, and a pack of pads for various mods.

melgeek's is just like everglide v1.
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post Jul 11 2021, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ Jul 11 2021, 07:49 PM)
Pulled the trigger on an IKBC MF108, brown switch... only "test" was watching several youtube videos... also IKBC seems like a "trusted" brand. Should be alright I suppose?
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ikbc mf108 is ok imo. here's the link to their manuals and firmwares, https://www.ikbckeyboard.com/copy-of-downloads (note: if it doesn't have issues, i think you don't need to do anything to the firmware)

i was waiting for their tkl mf87 v2. however, it didn't happen, so i have moved on. i know i can get it from sg. however i wanna have local units.

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