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Buying Advice NEWBIE NEEDS HELP!, NIKON S200 VS NIKON COOLPIX L11

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TSluvjshin
post Aug 2 2007, 01:13 AM, updated 19y ago

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Thinking to buy a new digital cam, NIKON S200(RM799), NIKON COOLPIX L11(RM599). What's the pro and con of the two? What issue to be concern the most when buying a new digital camera? rclxub.gif Thanks for helping. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 2 2007, 01:46 AM

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The higher the price, the better the quality and features.
Unless u r a pro photographer, just get the normal digital camera will do.
Good luck.
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:02 PM

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so how much budget for u camera?

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post Aug 4 2007, 10:32 AM

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Around RM500~RM700 will do. I've read a http://photographworks.wordpress.com/, it teach how to value the features of different camera, then go to nikon website to read the features between the two cameras, but seems L11 features better than S200, the only good of S200 is size and weight.
I need those expert advice before i buy it, since i need to catch photo during my flower arrangement lesson.

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post Aug 4 2007, 10:37 AM

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you should buy a camera that has either IS or usable high iso fuji f20/30/31.

both models you mentioned dont have IS.
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post Aug 4 2007, 10:40 AM

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so if u budget can go up abit also can suggest u take lumix fx10 such a good camera wit stablizer an using leica lens. good pic quality for flower an else
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post Aug 5 2007, 01:13 AM

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thanks 'artificial stupid' for teaching me a new method to value compact digital camera, i've found article from http://www.dpreview.com/articles/compactcamerahighiso/, quote"Small sensor compacts, by comparison, tend only to be able to produce low noise images at their very lowest ISO setting (usually ISO 50-100). At any higher setting noise becomes very intrusive and once you get to ISO 400 or higher the results are so noisy that they are only suitable for very small prints"
Now i'm confused, what should i do cry.gif oh, sifu, pls help me icon_question.gif


Added on August 5, 2007, 1:29 amhey ryan(or any sifus who can answer me), how much is the market price for lumix fx10 now? how much is the battery,long lasting or not, how many pic shot per battery charge, is the type of battery easily assessed? wat sort of memory cards, up to how many GB can the camera afford, normally free memory card during purchase or have to buy separately? thank you thank you so.................much for your information................. notworthy.gif

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post Aug 5 2007, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(luvjshin @ Aug 5 2007, 01:13 AM)
thanks 'artificial stupid' for teaching me a new method to value compact digital camera, i've found article from http://www.dpreview.com/articles/compactcamerahighiso/, quote"Small sensor compacts, by comparison, tend only to be able to produce low noise images at their very lowest ISO setting (usually ISO 50-100). At any higher setting noise becomes very intrusive and once you get to ISO 400 or higher the results are so noisy that they are only suitable for very small prints"
Now i'm confused, what should i do  cry.gif oh, sifu, pls help me icon_question.gif


from the link you posted:

There are some compact camera brands we would currently absolutely avoid for regular high ISO photography (Casio, Panasonic and Olympus spring to mind), but in reality - aside from one or two 6MP Fujifilm Super CCD models


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Added on August 5, 2007, 1:29 amhey ryan(or any sifus who can answer me), how much is the market price for lumix fx10 now? how much is the battery,long lasting or not, how many pic shot per battery charge, is the type of battery easily assessed? wat sort of memory cards, up to how many GB can the camera afford, normally free memory card during purchase or have to buy separately? thank you thank you so.................much for your information................. notworthy.gif
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fx12 is about rm710.
battery last very long, dont worry about the battery.
it uses sd mem card, support sdhc up to 8gb i think, need to buy separately.

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post Aug 9 2007, 12:21 AM

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wow! tat is too expensive for me........any reliable agent near kajang town selling panasonic dc?, i saw only canon, olympus, fuji, nikon..................does tat mean............. innocent.gif ............ dc is very new to panasonic, and pple duwan to sell it, afraid got any problem?! hmm.gif anyhow, i've read today's paper, advice from 4 local pro photographers is, never to mind much about technical issue, never to spend extra moneyflies.gif to blindly pursue high megapixel, 5 mp will be enough for normal or household use...... hmm.gif ..........i've thought it over and over, now i've lowered my requirement to 4 or 5 mp dc, any good recomendation? icon_idea.gif


Added on August 9, 2007, 2:40 amthe more i've read the more i'm lost..........


Added on August 9, 2007, 3:44 amany opinion for Canon POWERSHOT SD700IS IXUS 800IS
Price comparison? Battery durability? Pic quality indoor and low light?
Check the following photos, http://www.digital-photography-resource.co...mit=all&cat=792, any comment? anyone pls, send some sample photo by POWERSHOT SD700IS? icon_question.gif biggrin.gif

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post Aug 11 2007, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(luvjshin @ Aug 2 2007, 01:13 AM)
Thinking to buy a new digital cam, NIKON S200(RM799), NIKON COOLPIX L11(RM599). What's the pro and con of the two? What issue to be concern the most when buying a new digital camera?  rclxub.gif Thanks for helping. thumbup.gif
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Thinking of this 2 DC too, but the price i quote for S200 is RM100 higher... can tell me where u quote it?

Edit: but S200 is 7MP, while L11 is 6MP. How to compare it ?

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post Aug 12 2007, 11:47 AM

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i read from flyers, the shop at kajang town, how to compare,i've no idea, i think the most important thing is the picture quality? sometimes the different screens, different iso,different lenses,length of it,processors...................also affect the price. These technical stuffs i know only a little............if u wana know more, refer to my post on 4 AUG tongue.gif Canon is highly recomended, so went to check at sungei wang, all shop i went not selling the 6megapixel CANON anymore.why?????????somemore only nikon,sony,pentax,benq,panasonic,olympus doing promotion price,not canon,WHY??????????? cry.gif vmad.gif rclxub.gif i duno true or not, but i read from somewhere else that nikon compact dc not good in the sense tat the speed it takes in between each picture u shoot, also the picture quality not sharp, they langsung have no rooms in the compact dc world, but not the professional type lah......confusing, rclxub.gif .........i'm very blur.........i saw sony cybershot 7.1megapixel, same size, same pixel, same iso, quoted with 499,599,899 respectively, so i ask salesman wat's the different, then wat he said, u guess? one is normal screen, one with larger LCD screen, one with larger LCD screen and the outer shell made by other material........tat's it???? this simple???? because of this can cause price change to few hundred??????.............anyone pls give me some advice..............if u r using the cybershot 7.1 or 7.2megapixel............ wat about the picture quality..............watabout the stability............... i have more confidence on user rather than sales rep..........
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post Aug 13 2007, 01:33 PM

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Canon got promo(PowerShot and Ixus series) smile.gif.. its Canon PowerShot A560 lo. 7.1MP, 2.5" screen, 4x zoom. Only dont have image stabalizer (IS). Retail at RM888 IIRC.
S200 advantage over PowerShot 650 is slimer and got another function which is similar as the IS fucntion, but not advance as IS i think. For Canon and Nikon, i dont worry about the screen, since they have good reputaion. Just tht, finding a 6-7MP dc with IS function in RM800+ price range is almost impossible. sad.gif

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post Aug 14 2007, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 13 2007, 01:33 PM)
Canon got promo(PowerShot and Ixus series) smile.gif.. its Canon PowerShot A560 lo. 7.1MP, 2.5" screen, 4x zoom. Only dont have image stabalizer (IS). Retail at RM888 IIRC.
S200 advantage over PowerShot 650 is slimer and got another function which is similar as the IS fucntion, but not advance as IS i think. For Canon and Nikon, i dont worry about the screen, since they have good reputaion. Just tht,  finding a 6-7MP dc with IS function in RM800+ price range is almost impossible. sad.gif
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if size doesn't matter, u can go for Canon 570IS, which can get around RM880. Or else u can go for Lumix FX-10, which features MEGA O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer). Both FX-10 and S200 using Lithium Batt, PowerShot series using AA Batt.

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post Aug 14 2007, 11:56 PM

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i'm goin for powershot series, A550,A560,A570IS, my budget RM500-RM700, any giveaway for brand new dc?
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QUOTE(luvjshin @ Aug 14 2007, 11:56 PM)
i'm goin for powershot series, A550,A560,A570IS, my budget RM500-RM700, any giveaway for brand new dc?
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standard package... mini tripod, mem card, cam case, maybe umbrella or T-shirt and so on....
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QUOTE(prescott @ Aug 14 2007, 10:52 PM)
if size doesn't matter, u can go for Canon 570IS, which can get around RM880. Or else u can go for Lumix FX-10, which features MEGA O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer). Both FX-10 and S200 using Lithium Batt, PowerShot series using AA Batt.
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Canon 570IS RM880?? i tot it should be higher wo... where u find tht price?
Panasonic dc reliable? O.I.S is same as IS? or better? sry.. im newbie. icon_question.gif
Lithium Battery better or AA battery? AA one is more convinent rite?


Added on August 16, 2007, 12:46 pm
QUOTE(luvjshin @ Aug 14 2007, 11:56 PM)
i'm goin for powershot series, A550,A560,A570IS, my budget RM500-RM700, any giveaway for brand new dc?
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Did i change ur mind ? brows.gif
I also think tht for entry lvl consumer dc, Canon got better value for money. IIRC Nikon dc with IS function cost >RM1000.. thts not cheap. Canon offer 4X opt zoom and A560 looks far better than L11 and L12.

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post Aug 17 2007, 12:45 AM

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among the 3 powershoot, A550 is the lightest, a shop opposite UDA OCEAN supermarket(near petaling street) quote RM760, include tripod, 1gb mem card, casing, cd, AA batteries and charger, no umbrella or T-shirt. mad.gif is tat ok? within my budget is this A550 and SONY CYBERSHOOT(6mega pixel-RM6++), outer look, sony win, function-canon win, sony with wider screen, canon capture picture very fast, nikon capture picture quite slow, gota try few more with same price range at other shops, wish me luck,ya! wink.gif O.......o.....! forgotten to ask how many gb mem card can A550 support doh.gif


Added on August 17, 2007, 1:17 amhey, yehlai, how's ur survey? don't forget to keep me update, k? highly probable tat i'll buy canon powershoot A550............so pls.........tell me where can get the cheapest..........tq.....tq........tq.........so....much notworthy.gif or u may help ask A550 price when doin ur survey....... whistling.gif .........same series wat icon_idea.gif brows.gif ...............paiseh lah..... blush.gif

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QUOTE(luvjshin @ Aug 17 2007, 12:45 AM)
among the 3 powershoot, A550 is the lightest, a shop opposite UDA OCEAN supermarket(near petaling street) quote RM760, include tripod, 1gb mem card, casing, cd, AA batteries and charger, no umbrella or T-shirt. mad.gif is tat ok? within my budget is this A550 and SONY CYBERSHOOT(6mega pixel-RM6++), outer look, sony win, function-canon win, sony with wider screen, canon capture picture very fast, nikon capture picture quite slow, gota try few more with same price range at other shops, wish me luck,ya! wink.gif O.......o.....! forgotten to ask how many gb mem card can A550 support doh.gif


Added on August 17, 2007, 1:17 amhey, yehlai, how's ur survey? don't forget to keep me update, k? highly probable tat i'll buy canon powershoot A550............so pls.........tell me where can get the cheapest..........tq.....tq........tq.........so....much notworthy.gif or u may help ask A550 price when doin ur survey....... whistling.gif .........same series wat  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif ...............paiseh lah..... blush.gif
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I saw from newspaper A550 is around RM599 only wo.. but only bundle with 1GB SD + camera pocket.
wait i update with u later. Another model from FujiFilm is quite tempting!! 8MP with Image Stabilizer!! selling RM666 only!! buy i dunno too much about its capture speed. Update with u as well later smile.gif biggrin.gif

Edit:A560 is arnd RM760 IIRC, maybe u r refering to A560?


Added on August 18, 2007, 10:46 pmHey in back. Canon now hv promo until 31 August, A550 selling for RM599 (no SD card) and A560 selling RM799, A570IS for RM999
U can get it at:
KLCC - Lot329 lvl3
Mid Valley - Lot S-051, 2nd flr

But i doubt this is the lowest Canon could offer, becoz Prescott told us 570IS is selling for RM880 only rclxub.gif .

Another good dc i saw is FujiFilm FinePix A820! with unbeatable price RM666 only. This baby offer 8.3MP, 4X opt zoom
Not sure about the capture speed, guess u need to test it out urself smile.gif (dun forget to share with me aft u test it out tongue.gif )

Finally, i read from one review tht claims tht Canon entry lvl series dc is not so durable. Im not sure how tru it is, but just like to share with u nod.gif u test it out urself okay smile.gif

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/C.../Conclusion.htm

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post Aug 28 2007, 12:43 AM

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i've been to lowyat doin survey, got a pretty good offer from "DESA HOME THEATRE SDN.BHD.", RM599(Canon Powershoot A550, Tripod, Casing, Charger with AA Battery----China brand), the rest quoted same price but without charger and battery, is tat the lowest i can get around tat area? any cheaper pls pls pls inform...............yehlai, have u bought ur dc? can go try ur luck there.......... wink.gif FOTOKEM quoted CASIO Z75 for RM699(lithium Battery, casing, tripod, free printing for an album, 40% discount for the following photo development) .............
when holding the two, Canon feel comfortable, easy to hold, but a little bit clumsy, Casio screen wider but Canon picture clearer, Canon more user friendly in terms of switching function, very easy to jump from each button to another without really looking for the button, CASIO button is like hiding somewhere else, quite confusing........ rclxub.gif i had been trying for a few min to get use to it(still blur)but for Canon, i can easily switch from 1 to another after 1st tried......is there anyone with any comment? unsure.gif
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post Aug 28 2007, 01:24 AM

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Check this guy out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60889858@N00/

he took great pictures with only a550.

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