QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Oct 17 2021, 02:39 PM)
May I know what is the project name and current status? Have they launched the sale?Mont Kiara Allevia by UEM SUNRISE
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Nov 7 2021, 12:24 AM
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Nov 21 2021, 03:03 PM
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Hi all,
Please help me out. I was looking at this development and quite at an advance stage in deciding. However, I realized the neighboring development Aston Kiara 3 price has been depreciating. The same unit which was selling 900k+ at launch is now transacting at 550k+ (300 - 400 ppsf). Allevia, being adjacent is selling at 800ppsf+. What’s the rationale in this? Are all developments affected by the neighboring squatters? Any thoughts? |
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Nov 21 2021, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Nov 21 2021, 04:13 PM) Depends on view also…whether you face the kampung or not and Allevia has another entrance at JK4. The bigger concern is the price premium between Allevia vs AK3 - and if the primary factor is due to accessibility of JK3 vs JK4.What size are you looking at and budget? |
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Nov 21 2021, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(brando_w @ Nov 21 2021, 07:28 PM) Seni indeed is a good choice… Henry Butcher MK is doing a relatively well job over there. Thanks both. I am not looking at subsale. https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1828763/bms...ni-mont’kiara Working on my research of Allevia. I am just curious why the developments sandwiched by JK3 and JK4 did not provide for dual access (car, not pedestrian) to both roads but must select only one. |
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Nov 21 2021, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Nov 21 2021, 09:08 PM) DBKL controls. Sefina has a back entrance via JK4, but until today not assessible for vehicles. Seems they are will waiting for DBKL approval. That’s really strange isn’t it. Valuation is 50% off just because of access road. One observation is the road has to be elevated to connect to JK4 as there is a big drain / river underneath. So the construction cost will definitely be in the millions. Re: AK3 - price is possibly due to location along JK3 + 1 entrance only. For Allevia, hard to say. Just bear in mind MK International school may open up a back gate at JK4 and you know what this means. Cars will line up the road to pick up kids , like what they r doing along JK 5 for Gardens now. Do you think DBKL would link up JK4 with Duta Kiara and make arrangement with AK3 and Richmond to grant access to JK4? |
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Nov 22 2021, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Nov 21 2021, 09:47 PM) This has been in the pipeline to deflect traffic off JK1, which pretty much makes sense. However personally I dont see it happening anytime soon. The existing road extension by the private developers of IMK and UEM Sunrise is only 1 x 1. Lots of work and capital to be borne by DBKL considering the clearing and huge drain to connect to Duta Kiara. QUOTE(Cincailah @ Nov 22 2021, 12:10 AM) If they can clear the settlement sandwiched between IMK and Sefina, that is another land parcel. Accessing JK4 needs to be elevated road. |
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Nov 22 2021, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Nov 22 2021, 10:43 AM) Occam’s razor explanation:- Thanks for the theorem. Indeed looking for reasons to justify the purchase. Probably with a strong bias to ignore the cons. Allevia is overpriced for this micro location. It may well be the prettiest block compared to its neighbours but is the price justified? QUOTE(brando_w @ Nov 22 2021, 10:48 AM) How's Sefina doing subsale and rental wise? 15 years is a long time. Allevia would have been 10 year old. Would the MRT3 for MK be located between IMK and Sefina?Cirle Line MRT should tunnel below Jln Kiara 4 (if the plan does not change again)...contruction period plus delays should take about 15 years... QUOTE(freshinewbie @ Nov 22 2021, 10:58 AM) Seem a lil quiet, maybe sefina entrance still in jk3. But r22 very hot in transaction. Allevia would have to drive or bike to arcosis. Don’t really think is within walking distance. The walking distance to arcosis is indeed a big draw for r22. If Sefina is not walkable to Arcosis/163, Allevia should be worse. A micro contained development. Really a big plus point if entrance in jk4? No doubt the commercial activities in arcoris 163 doing very well. QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Nov 22 2021, 11:19 AM) Even with jk4 access, walking distance is still quite a bit and quite quiet along the stretch - safe? Is definitely not walkable but within walking distance. For expats, they will need a car to shuttle between GIS / MKIS or even to the commercial areas - particularly if they are with children in tow.This post has been edited by keelim: Nov 22 2021, 11:32 AM |
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Nov 22 2021, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(freshinewbie @ Nov 22 2021, 12:33 PM) Yup, Security is an issue. But quite lot ppl jogging at jk4. Maybe with e-scooter is better. However still seem dangerous for women n kids for the walk way. I saw from YouTube videos, the JK4 extension from Sefina (edge) to IMK and eventually Allevia will be lit with lamp post. The end of the squatters are walled up with a slope so will be difficult to encroach to JK4 unless the last settlement within the squatters are colluding. IMK will be populated and there will be more activities in the area going forward. |
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Nov 24 2021, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(yushk @ Nov 24 2021, 08:48 PM) makes me thinking....the back gate of MKIT will connect directly to Allevia? If so, then the gate is really EXCLUSIVE for Allevia. But it doesn't make sense in my opinion. So there is a slope which is supported by retainer wall. Any ‘exclusive’ entrance will need a staircase and MKIS needs to put some sort of security protocol there. The road along that stretch is a 1 x 1 (narrowing from 3 x 3) and impossible for car to wait there without blocking Allevia and Inspirasi residences. Hence don’t bank on a back gate as MKIS will have a hard time policing it. Direct connection into Allevia just doesn’t make sense. It is a 294 units residence only. How many will house MKIS students? Any back entrance has to be for common use of the residences along JK4.Not sure, if Kiara 163, Arcoris or R22 can benefit from the back gate. With the graded terrain and slope, it will also be costly for DBkL to join JK4 with Jln Duta Kiara. This post has been edited by keelim: Nov 24 2021, 09:32 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Nov 24 2021, 09:21 PM) Have a look at google maps.. the back gate is likely to be nearer to the squatters or IMK. I have done extensive research on the development. Allevia back gate will be closer to IMK. It’s I’ll be a 500m walk to GIS but the stretch from IMK to Sefina will spook any expats. From Sefina to GIS, it is really a pleasure stroll. That said, IMK will have similar concept with access to JK3 and JK4, hence they will beautify the facade and things should get better. Just drive along JK5, you will see a back gate to Gardens International School as well opposite Jaya Grocer. Some parents/drivers etc will park along that road to wait for their kids to avoid JK3 Do not know which party owns the squatters land but if MRT is to be located along JK4, that is the most plausible option. It was mooted to be infront of Arcosis, but that stretch is just impossible... |
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Nov 24 2021, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Nov 24 2021, 09:43 PM) ![]() The retainer wall is further up. Personally I don't think its difficult to build a stairs and entrance near the swimming pool or nearer to the field. MKIS are filthy rich. QUOTE(jlim2004 @ Nov 24 2021, 09:46 PM) MRT , if it ever happen in MK, is likely to be fully underground (Eg Ampang Park station etc) No plot of land is required, or even if needed, just a small area I think. If underground then is possible to just build several exit/entrances but the tunneling has to be along JK4. These buildings along JK4 are 30-50 floors and the piling should be deep underground. |
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May 13 2022, 01:42 PM
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Has MK evolved into a cycling town?
Where is the proposed location of MK MRT if it ever happens? Would JK4 be eventually merged with Jln Duta? Sefina should have been as successful as R22 had it been able to obtain direct access to JK4. It is very much within walking distance to Arcoris. Allevia is further down. Walkable by students but not adults (psychologically). Definitely workable with bicycles. Allevia is sandwiched by less successful devt (AK3 and Richmond). It needs more ‘wow’ factors and one of it is consolidated affluent owner occupiers in the development which fits its large units theme. |
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