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post Jun 4 2020, 01:30 AM, updated 6y ago

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Say you have no limited budget to build a single desktop PC, what would you have for the build in terms of spec?
Motherboard, CPU, RAM and speed, graphic card/video capture card, soundcard (if it is still relevant today), HDD, networking items.

Just interested in seeing what is available in the top end consumer market today.

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post Jun 4 2020, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jun 4 2020, 01:32 AM)
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What is available on consumer market only.
IE what you can buy on PC shop, maybe if easy to get special order items also can.
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post Jun 4 2020, 01:54 AM

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i think for rig only around 10k can consider top end. more than that might be the cost of accessories like rgb and custom water cooling work.
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post Jun 4 2020, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Jun 4 2020, 01:54 AM)
i think for rig only around 10k can consider top end. more than that might be the cost of accessories like rgb and custom water cooling work.
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this , and those supa expensive monitor x2 or 3

cpu rm2k
gpu rm6k
remaining parts rm3k settle


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post Jun 4 2020, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(elairz @ Jun 4 2020, 01:54 AM)
i think for rig only around 10k can consider top end. more than that might be the cost of accessories like rgb and custom water cooling work.
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Really, I think a really good graphic card say Radeon pro can cost 7-8k MYR.
If one run dual processor etc.
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post Jun 4 2020, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Jun 4 2020, 01:58 AM)
this , and those supa expensive monitor x2 or 3

cpu rm2k
gpu rm6k
remaining parts rm3k settle
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I see, gaming computer could still be cheaper than say a workstation.
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post Jun 4 2020, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jun 4 2020, 01:55 AM)
2 server with 24 CPU and 48 2080TI
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TITIAN RTX LA

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post Jun 4 2020, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 01:30 AM)
Say you have no limited budget to build a single desktop PC, what would you have for the build in terms of spec?
Motherboard, CPU, RAM and speed, graphic card/video capture card, soundcard (if it is still relevant today), HDD, networking items.

Just interested in seeing what is available in the top end consumer market today.
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3950x
X570
Wait for 3080tii.
Pcie4 1tb nvme dram ssd x 2.
4tb x 3.
80 titanium psu.
16gb x 2 ddr4 4400mhz.

If you have to ask you don't need a thread ripper. Probably not 3950x either. So go with 3800x.

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SUSAngelic Layer
post Jun 4 2020, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Jun 4 2020, 02:04 AM)
3950x
X570
Wait for 3080tii.
Pcie4 1tb nvme dram ssd x 2.
4tb x 3.
80 titanium psu.
16gb x 2 ddr4 4400mhz.

If you have to ask you don't need a thread ripper. Probably not 3950x either. So go with 3800x.
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I read report on rendering video using 3900X, there is no 3950 on the test.
3900 have better speed, 3950 have more threads, 3950 is more expensive and is a lot better?
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post Jun 4 2020, 02:14 AM

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Before buying any pc parts, get a godly monitor first. After then you can fully utilized your pc.
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post Jun 4 2020, 02:14 AM

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put monitor also
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post Jun 4 2020, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jun 4 2020, 02:14 AM)
Before buying any pc parts, get a godly monitor first. After then you can fully utilized your pc.
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QUOTE(Date Masamune @ Jun 4 2020, 02:14 AM)
put monitor also
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Who makes good monitor these days, I am still using EIZO for a while.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 02:17 AM)
Who makes good monitor these days, I am still using EIZO for a while.
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It comes down to what do you need the monitor for?

Gaming? I personally suka LG for IPS, Zowie if TN.
Work? Dell, no doubt.


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post Jun 4 2020, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 02:17 AM)
Who makes good monitor these days, I am still using EIZO for a while.
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FUH EIZO

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post Jun 4 2020, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jun 4 2020, 02:26 AM)
FUH EIZO

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Yes, they are a good brand in Japan, just don't see them much in other places.
Mine is just a normal consumer version, with a sensor in front so if a person is leaving in front it will turn off in a few seconds to save energy and screen, it will turn on again if a person in front.
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post Jun 4 2020, 02:56 AM

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Buy QUADRO RTX8000 first the rest will follow

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post Jun 4 2020, 03:11 AM

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threadripper,
64gb ram 3600 c18 (gaming and since infinity fabric in amd processors don't benefit from speeds higher than 3600)
or 64gb ram 2666 ecc (workstation),
graphic card wait next gen since current gen very boring,
samsung pro nvme ssd for OS and application, buy more than one to setup raid 0 for shits and giggles,
xfp/sfp/sfp+ nic as long as 10Gb/s, a good SAN setup for long term storage with 10Gb/s connection to pc,
cooling just put pc inside aircon room 24/7 can, custom water cooling loop also can, but custom water loop need to be maintained regularly

other parts like mobo, casing and psu as long as reliable (read reviews) and up to spec just pick what design you like, not going to matter a lot unless you're planning to break world record in overclocking

for monitors I personally own an LG 27GL850, but ultrawides and/or semi-profesional series like dell ultrasharp series also interesting

keyboards nowadays plenty of choices, even with custom keycaps and layouts accessible on to buy from internet

mouse is the one thing I'm not sure of, manufacturers say rated to last for 10 million clicks, but after a few months already start double clicking


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post Jun 4 2020, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Jun 4 2020, 02:56 AM)
Buy  QUADRO RTX8000 first the rest will follow
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I think it is as good as a mere mortal can get, or it is difficult to get as well, I heard there are limited units.
The most intensive things I done is rendering 4k 60fps video, I still haven't have to deal with 10 bit color at this point.

Anyway, does the 3080ti support 10bit color?
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post Jun 4 2020, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Jun 4 2020, 03:11 AM)
threadripper,
64gb ram 3600 c18 (gaming and since infinity fabric in amd processors don't benefit from speeds higher than 3600)
or 64gb ram 2666 ecc (workstation),
graphic card wait next gen since current gen very boring,
samsung pro nvme ssd for OS and application, buy more than one to setup raid 0 for shits and giggles,
xfp/sfp/sfp+ nic as long as 10Gb/s, a good SAN setup for long term storage with 10Gb/s connection to pc,
cooling just put pc inside aircon room 24/7 can, custom water cooling loop also can, but custom water loop need to be maintained regularly

other parts like mobo, casing and psu as long as reliable (read reviews) and up to spec just pick what design you like, not going to matter a lot unless you're planning to break world record in overclocking

for monitors I personally own an LG 27GL850, but ultrawides and/or semi-profesional series like dell ultrasharp series also interesting

keyboards nowadays plenty of choices, even with custom keycaps and layouts accessible on to buy from internet

mouse is the one thing I'm not sure of, manufacturers say rated to last for 10 million clicks, but after a few months already start double clicking
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Cool insights, I see what items I can get bit by bit.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 02:17 AM)
Who makes good monitor these days, I am still using EIZO for a while.
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EIZO is great for workstations, not so much for gaming. These days you'd need to insist on minimum IPS panel with 144hz refresh rates.
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post Jun 4 2020, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 4 2020, 03:23 AM)
EIZO is great for workstations, not so much for gaming. These days you'd need to insist on minimum IPS panel with 144hz refresh rates.
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Admittedly I don't game that much, outside of office work and trading, probably photo and video editing, music is what I do.
Good to know nonetheless.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 03:27 AM)
Admittedly I don't game that much, outside of office work and trading, probably photo and video editing, music is what I do.
Good to know nonetheless.
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for desktop usage a refresh rate of higher than the usual 60hz is really pretty awesome. Your cursor and browsing experience improves five fold from the smoothness.
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here the best pc spec use by The Godfather Of linux

Linus Torvalds is the most famous programmer in the world, father of the Linux operating system, and maker of the near-universal Git distributed version control system. He also builds his own developer workstation and recently upgraded his PC to a speedy AMD Threadripper 3970x-based processor. But a computer is more than a CPU.

In an exclusive conversation, Torvalds revealed what he used in his latest programming PC. Total price? About $3,500, which, for a high-end desktop computer, is darn cheap.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/look-whats-in...development-pc/
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QUOTE(JLA @ Jun 4 2020, 08:30 AM)
here the best pc spec use by The Godfather Of linux

Linus Torvalds is the most famous programmer in the world, father of the Linux operating system, and maker of the near-universal Git distributed version control system. He also builds his own developer workstation and recently upgraded his PC to a speedy AMD Threadripper 3970x-based processor. But a computer is more than a CPU.

In an exclusive conversation, Torvalds revealed what he used in his latest programming PC. Total price? About $3,500, which, for a high-end desktop computer, is darn cheap.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/look-whats-in...development-pc/
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I think a 3970X is close to 2k USD, more than half the price of his build, he cut budget on not using ECC RAM, also doesn't use independent graphics card.
Probably good for what he is doing.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 08:35 AM)
I think a 3970X is close to 2k USD, more than half the price of his build, he cut budget on not using ECC RAM, also doesn't use independent graphics card.
Probably good for what he is doing.
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3970x where got gpu
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post Jun 4 2020, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(harriss @ Jun 4 2020, 08:39 AM)
3970x where got gpu
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I thought it is integrated since he didn't mention anything for graphics.
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Normally, I don't go for the high end rigs. I use Linux so it makes sense to use hardware one or two generations back so that I can be sure of good hardware support.

But basically for me, choose a motherboard and upgrade until I cannot upgrade anymore. i.e socket change or capacitor ageing killing the motherboard. New graphics card as long as it fits and I feel there is going to be a performance increase.

For me, continuous, incremental upgrades are more practical than buying everything at once.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 08:41 AM)
I thought it is integrated since he didn't mention anything for graphics.
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Got say he use sapphire rx580 at the end of interview.
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No budget limit...............

Literally sort by highest price. Tu pun pening ke.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2020, 08:44 AM)
Normally, I don't go for the high end rigs. I use Linux so it makes sense to use hardware one or two generations back so that I can be sure of good hardware support.

But basically for me, choose a motherboard and upgrade until I cannot upgrade anymore. i.e socket change or capacitor ageing killing the motherboard. New graphics card as long as it fits and I feel there is going to be a performance increase.

For me, continuous, incremental upgrades are more practical than buying everything at once.
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I only upgrade 2-3 years once. A generation improvement not worth. Need at least 2
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 4 2020, 08:44 AM)
Normally, I don't go for the high end rigs. I use Linux so it makes sense to use hardware one or two generations back so that I can be sure of good hardware support.

But basically for me, choose a motherboard and upgrade until I cannot upgrade anymore. i.e socket change or capacitor ageing killing the motherboard. New graphics card as long as it fits and I feel there is going to be a performance increase.

For me, continuous, incremental upgrades are more practical than buying everything at once.
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Ryzen is a bit of a game changer like since 2 years ago.
Another way of thinking is to relegate the old rig as a second/backup computer and have a totally new one.

I am starting this topic to see what people is using or is available in the market that is considered cutting edge for consumers.

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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Jun 4 2020, 08:46 AM)
No budget limit...............

Literally sort by highest price. Tu pun pening ke.
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Not so simple, say AMD 3990X is the most expensive but it is slower for normal users even than 3800X.
Maybe 3950X have same performance as 3900X too in many situations.
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enterprise grade ssd that has warranty for 10 years will set you back around usd 9k. you will need multiple of that to do raid.

xeon plat you wont go wrong with that.

1tb of memory.


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Just go idealtech website and max out everything

I think around 70k inc monitor, chair and accesories
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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 4 2020, 08:53 AM)
enterprise grade ssd that has warranty for 10 years will set you back around usd 9k. you will need multiple of that to do raid.

xeon plat you wont go wrong with that.

1tb of memory.
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Consumer market I mean.
QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jun 4 2020, 08:53 AM)
Just go idealtech website and max out everything

I think around 70k inc monitor, chair and accesories
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20 years ago I do the same thing, and got a total of like 30k, not including chair.
Given the rate of inflation I think it is about the same?
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No need expensive PC...I use cheap PC with Ryzen and RX 570...already get 60fps in 1080p on most games ultra settings.

best bang for buck
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 02:32 AM)
Yes, they are a good brand in Japan, just don't see them much in other places.
Mine is just a normal consumer version, with a sensor in front so if a person is leaving in front it will turn off in a few seconds to save energy and screen, it will turn on again if a person in front.
user posted image
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those professional video photo use for the colour accuracy
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 4 2020, 03:23 AM)
EIZO is great for workstations, not so much for gaming. These days you'd need to insist on minimum IPS panel with 144hz refresh rates.
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EIZO got gaming line also
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 08:57 AM)
Consumer market I mean.

20 years ago I do the same thing, and got a total of like 30k, not including chair.
Given the rate of inflation I think it is about the same?
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Just did, manage to get a total of RM 67k.

QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jun 4 2020, 08:59 AM)
No need expensive PC...I use cheap PC with Ryzen and RX 570...already get 60fps in 1080p on most games ultra settings.

best bang for buck
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After i tried 1440p gaming, very hard to go back to 1080p

1440p gaming is the best sweet spot at the moment
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jun 4 2020, 01:30 AM)
Say you have no limited budget to build a single desktop PC, what would you have for the build in terms of spec?
Motherboard, CPU, RAM and speed, graphic card/video capture card, soundcard (if it is still relevant today), HDD, networking items.

Just interested in seeing what is available in the top end consumer market today.
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