How Much Roughly to Wire FTTH to Your Home?

30/20M of SC-SC Black Armoured Drop Fiber with Readily Fusion-spliced PC Connectors(Blue) on Both Ends - RM39 for 30M or RM32 for 20M



75M/100M of SC-SC Black Armoured Drop Fiber with Readily Fusion-spliced PC Connectors(Blue) on Both Ends - RM72 for 75M or RM84 for 100M





OPTIONAL**
Outdoor 2-Port Fiber Termination Box(Demarcation Box)



Fiber Wall Socket Box with 2 ports - RM2.85



Single Mode SC-SC PC Type Coupler to Separate Armoured Drop Fibre with Indoor Patch Cable Inside FWS - RM5

- RM5

SC-SC PC type Connector(Blue) Patch Cable From FWS to Fibre Modem(10M) x10 Pack
*Just for reference you don't need 10M probably 1M-2M will do since your modem should be placed near FWS


Huawei GPON ONT Fibre Modem in 40s Bulk (RM1510.30 with each only RM37)
*TM orders this at even larger bulks which works out to even much cheaper



All for less than RM150 per home and you've future proof your home to support speeds of beyond 10Gbps.

EDIT(05/06/2020): Added more items for price referencing and an optional outdoor wall fiber termination box(Demarcation box).

This post has been edited by Candy12: Jun 5 2020, 07:14 PM

No such thing as future proof because new technologies emerged everyday.

FWS Gone. Adapter Gone. What's next? Modem? Haha.

Thinking of buying my own FWS box, a coupler and a patch cord to rewire my house by myself.

Then pull out the direct cable with connector inside my ONT(fibre modem), plug it into the coupler, wind up the armoured cable inside the FWS, then plug it with the patch cord from the FWS to the modem.

That way neater and easier to manage in future.

Besides using 2-port FWS box, there're also 4-port ones for future need.Some countries like Switzerland pull 4 strands of fibre cable(4-core) into each home.

I think i might be getting FFTH by early June.
but I don't have knowledge for the fiber optic wiring.
Right now I only saw the DP on the pole.
My house will require to route it on the ceiling, previously my phone line also pulling on the ceiling.
Not sure how much they will charge this time.
Do you recommend i should prepare any of these things before they come?
Would like to know more. Afraid getting scam by them, since most of them just work under contract.
this is what i found


This post has been edited by Rainings: May 26 2020, 04:36 PM

If you request or tell them standard installation, they will poke hole at your wall for free for that fibre cable without any protection.
If standard installation with micro duct protection, start from RM60.
If route through the ceiling, the price start from RM50 usually.
Some contractor will issued you official receipt.

However, some contractor can "help" with lower charges but no receipt issued.

For standard fiber cable (black color) installation , tm installer
used pvc cable u clip on the wall.As simple as that ...for
cost saving , i think ....

The standard installation will provide the black armored cable directly from the FDP white box on the telephone pole to your fibre modem. The last time I chose to route it from the ceiling down to the room where my modem is installed, they charged me RM100 just to climb up the rood pull up my roof tiles and pull the cable through the ceiling tied with a stick. That also they didn't provide any FWS box which costs less than RM10 with coupler for me.

If you want to prepare for the standard installation, just buy the FWS box find a nice one, usually a SC-SC PC-type(blue)/APC(green for some TIME installations) coupler and your desired patch cord cable to hook up your modem with the FWS box. You can get them all including delivery for less than RM20.

A 2-5M length patch cord(yellow with blue connector head) with fusion spliced SC-SC PC connector is more than enough since the FWS is usually placed nearby fibre modem(ONT).

Lookup the items I posted with the initial post of this thread.

You guess how much will they charge we ask them use that FWS put through our own adapter with patch cord?

Yes i want it to route it from the ceiling and down to the living room where my modem currently is.

May I know why FWS box is important? Is it because easy for maintenance?
Sry I'm not familiar with it not sure what is the usage.

How to actually define a nice FWS box?
The patch cord cable is it connect to TM BTU? and BTU connect to router?
thx for your sharing.

This post has been edited by Rainings: May 27 2020, 02:14 PM

Get a sturdy looking one with at least 2-4 ports depending on your future needs.
2 ports FWS should be fine for most homes. The better ones comes with compartment that allows you to rewind excess fibre cable for tidy setup behind.

This is what i ordered.
1. Single Mode SC-SC PC Type Coupler x1
2. FWS Fiber Wall Socket Box with 2 ports x1
3. Patch Cable x1

Should be enough right? Do I need to order Fiber Terminal Box(Outdoor)?
Long time ago TM pull from DP to FTB right? now no more is it?

Before you jump straight into the order make sure the coupler used by the TM Unifi installers at your area is using for PC or APC type connectors.

The common one should be PC type but just to be safe. APC type is slightly more expensive.

Your patch cord must follow the suitable type as well.

I thought they would standardize connectors for installation?

TM's bad HSBB management in allowing their own installers to do what they want and supply different kinds of equipment in different areas/states.

https://www.dintek.com.tw/index.php/Article...connectors.html

Anyway, some of those service areas I know using the different slightly more expensive APC connectors are served by Time Fibre.

TM HSBB mostly use the cheaper PC-type connectors.

Oh no..
I ordered this
1. SC-SC PC SMF Singlemode Fiber Optic Adapter Coupler for TM MAxis Modem Patch Panel Single mode SM SC to SC
2. SC-SC Single Mode Fiber Optic Cable Patch Cord - 1M 2M 3M 5M 10M 9/125 SM SMF jumper 10G Gigabit SC/SC SC Unifi Maxis

Today just received FWS.
Coupler and Patch cable is now OTW
If they used APC my purchase will wasted. hmm...

Mostly Unifi is using PC-type connector. But don't worry the 2 items under RM10 only right?

1. Coupler x1 RM5
2. Patch cord 10m x1 RM7
This 2 items from same merchant with shipment total RM16.04

1. FWS x1 with shipment RM6.35

Sum all above total RM22.39

It is not expensive, just feel wasted if not suitable for installation.

That amount can't even get you 2 cups of Starbucks while a proper FWS will get you a nice setup for years to come.

If you still feel wasted, ask for refund from the shop you ordered from saying it was wrongly ordered and did not fit the installation at your place.

Anyway you can also ask your neighbor who installed Unifi line, ask them if the connector is blue/green. If possible take a picture and send to the seller.

is fine bro.. im not complaining.
No one get to install fiber yet, the street just newly install FDP.
i think on my street im the only one that demand for fiber. others house all retired and old folks.
still not sure which type of connecter they use.

Yes, I think nowadays companies like TM not only interested in looking for high demand areas to include in their Unifi expansion.

If your area according to census has lots of B40 groups, they'll also avoid. There's high tendency for many who will default, stop paying their bills and moved out from their homes when economy downturn strikes.

High demand is one thing, high default rate and line abandonment is also things to consider in expansion.

So do we need the FTB still? Or from the pole connects to FWS directly via drill hole or ceiling?

Refer here

Thanks

Just to add to this:
If you want custom length cable, FS.com has them, OS2 fiber cable.

The fiber termination 'cut'/polish/connector is usually either UPC or APC, can tell by colour of the connectors, green = APC, blue = UPC. Usually can see on both cable plug and ONT port as well.

APC is better(Marginally less signal loss), but unfortunately you can't mix and match UPC and APC, the fibers WILL be damaged, or at least scratched.

As for the connector itself, if you'd like to run a long distance cable and the SC connector is too big to run, you can go for the LC connector, it's smaller in size. So like this > TM Cable, then SC > SC adapter at the start if no FWS, then SC > LC cabling, then on the other end place an LC > LC adapter and finally another LC > SC cable to the ONT. (If you have a FWS then just plug in SC-LC cable into that)

You could run two(duplex) fibers if you wish as well

Single/Simplex Fiber: https://www.fs.com/sg/products/12285.html
Two/Duplex Fiber: https://www.fs.com/sg/products/50147.html
SC Adapter: https://www.fs.com/sg/products/48488.html
LC Adapter: https://www.fs.com/sg/products/17579.html (Must be duplex to fit with the wall box below)
Wall box thing: https://www.fs.com/sg/products/14457.html

Technically you could run the bare fiber cables without a plug on one end (pigtails), then use a mechanical splicer and reattach the connector (by joining another pigtail), if you really can't spare a slightly bigger hole. But- that needs extra tools

how to proper setup wall socket for relocation of router and ONU?

currently just layover the fiber cable naked and pass thru power socket with something like this


original wall socket

Thank you for the suggestion.There is some reserve comment on the method though.
You will need 2 different couplers and 3 different cables to realize the setup which is a challenge for most Malaysians and increase the chances of introducing more insertion loss .

Originally the whole idea of why TM Unifi amateur installers did away with both the demarcation outdoor wall box and the FWS(wall socket box) was not just because of trimming costs, it was to make installation jobs as simple as possible for their lazy men from making any mistakes, accidents or missing out any steps which could result in serious signal degradation in the long run.

Since Malaysian HSBB wholesale provider TM monopolizes most of the landed home FTTH buildouts, there is no reason to have an outdoor demarcation box but the FWS(wall socket/TP) is still a very essential item to make active equipment(ONT/fibre modem) or patch cords swapping easy.

The SIMPLEST method I could think of to place a FWS in between a directly pulled armored fiber with 2 spliced connectors on both ends is to get just 1x coupler which matches it, a patch cord fibre cable of short length to place the ONT nearby the wall box and just a FWS(wall socket box).

That way I could keep signal attenuation/loss to the minimum at the same time simplify the entire installation as much as possible with the least time needed.

TM FDP white box on utility poles --> Free supplied armoured core fibre --> FWS wall socket box with Matching Coupler(APC/UPC type) --> Patch cord to ONT/fibre modem.

This method is used by Japanese FTTH installations to make the readily available wall socket(FWS)/TP as as basic necessity for customer to do their own DIY equipment installation.

Very badly done installation. Why do you run the patch cord through the wall and what difference does it makes if you run the cable directly from the outside FDP white box on the telephone pole directly to your modem if the patch cable gets broken? You want to hack the wall a 2nd time?

The whole idea of strategically placing the FWS(wall socket box)/TP is to allow easy and quick swaps of patch cable with easy accessibility of the ONT/fibre modem being as close as possible.

Why did the installer installed the FWS on the opposite side of the wall and route the patch cord cable through it by drilling a whole? If the patch cord gets broken or you intend to replace it in future, that will be quite a headache.You certainly don't want to DIY and would certainly need to source a contractor once again to do a neat job.

Finally all arrived. hopefully installation will go smoothly.

My TM Huawei Echolife HG8240H uses the blue colored UPC connector like that. So should be correct.
Not sure about the other ONTs such as Nokia and FiberHome.

thx, finger cross. Since TM pretty cheap stake, i dont think they will use "better" connector

the original wall socket is inside room and behind wardrobe, therefore need to relocate to outside common area. at first the wiring guy said the wall socket box cannot be relocate, after reading this thread only found out FWS can actually be purchase.
the patch cord is running concealed inside, how likely will fiber cable broken?

You should conceal the entire armoured fiber cable(black colored) exposed running on walls as much as possible until where the FWS is installed. Even inside the ceiling they should be run through ducts.That should be the proper way to prevent accidents and unwanted animals/child from damaging them.

The FWS should be placed as close as possible to where you want the fibre modem(ONT) to be installed to facilitate easy swapping and reduce wear/tear.

Avoid using connectors/couplers as much as possible because they can cause signal to degrade.

can? asked many contractors, all said cannot be done... supposed should have relocate the FWS outside to the wall near router but was told the FWS cannot be move

Ask for services to rewire your home once again and this time provide your own cable, FWS wall box/port, patch cable and coupler/adapter.

Buy a roll anything above 30M, 50M or 75M extra is fine, you can still cut if access or roll it up according to your need.

Or you can just buy the cable with no terminated connectors on both ends.

https://shopee.com.my/SC-SC-Fiber-Drop-Cabl...9217.2660773114

Ask the contractor to remove your old cable and push the new black armoured cable through the holes already made the last time. You'll noticed that both ends of the pre-fused spliced connectors already present for the suggested item above, cut off the end which is to be routed through the wall because the connector is too big in the way.

Then once routed to where you want to place your new FWS(wall socket box), use a fast snap-on connector with the end of the fibre cable, and plug it into the coupling adapter before installing it into the box winding up the excess length inside the box.

Also note that snap-on mechanical connectors actually increase attenuation slightly higher than fusion spliced components.So avoid if possible. That is why I always recommend factory ready fibre cables with spliced connectors which are QC tested like the one above.

The armoured cable is hard to wind up in small loops with the reinforced steel inside, cut it away so that you can wind it easier inside the FWS box.

my experience so far using the fws. yesterday installed in less than 2 hrs the line broke.
He said the fusion part broke the FWS too small, and it was curved and put inside the fws.
This morning they came and refusion again.
Yesterday the fusion part still inside the fws.


now u can see end of it is actually fusion part,

coupler now will move it outside


This post has been edited by Rainings: Jun 12 2020, 10:05 AM

You might want to try using those long FWS similar to those in Japan which can fit only 1 coupler inside.

Like this:
https://shopee.com.my/Fiber-Optic-SC-SC-Joi...7292.1248280245

Ahh.. i doesn't know this thing actually exists. Thx for that.. will get this cover to protect the coupler.

How much does a outdoor 12-port FDP(Fibre Distribution Panel) box costs including a 1 x 8 passive fan-out type splitter to create an additional 8 ports to serve homes along the same housing row?







From OLT port(at exchange office)-->1 x 4 Splitter-->FDC(Fibre Roadside Cabinet)-->1 x 8 Splitter-->CPE(fibre modem/ONT/ONU)

Each OLT port serves up to 32 fibres modem(ONTs) through cascading 4 x 8 splitters.