Testing the Win port (alpha12 to be exact) one atm and I gotta say that I like the 'lightness' and interface's simplicity.Performance-wise it's a little bit odd since I seem to be able to gain better peer counts with Xunlei in comparison and the speed fluctuations seems to be wildly erratic.Not entirely sure what I did wrong but getting 40-60s in range is sweet though.

@emilz
Bro you might wanna do some read up here at http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=17098 .. Hope the thread can give some ideas. Apparently Vista's firewall is quite a pain in the backside.

@firestater
Not to burst your bubble bro...But a good portion of us Deluge Win port users (in terms of OS-specific version diffs) with screamyx 1M (1536-512) can nail that speed easily too with 77 seeders (and with even lower seeders' counts than that at times or with diff torrents).This is coming from a guy with a perma 60.5x.xx.xx fyi.

P.S:- Got nothing against Ubuntu mind you... I'm 1 of those 'tired of Win as main, looking for switchies' types as well. Just that atm I'm superbly lazy to deal with diff partitions and juggling gaming to other tasks.

This post has been edited by eq8all: Oct 9 2007, 02:49 PM

So far I haven't encountered any apparent bugs since alpha 14 as I'm testing out alpha 16 right now.But just wanna share this piece of info with you guys...

Installed this PC game called Two Worlds, where it required for the Ageia PhysX engine/runtime to be installed along with it. Right after I've done that and even without that concurrent game and Deluge runs (not that my comp can really handle that anyway), Deluge would suddenly go into a 'stutter-fest' a'la old Azureus' memory leaks and sudden felt very 'heavy' between windows' changes.

I checked that part out when I removed the PhysX installation altogether and confirmed that the issue was resolved immediately.Which reminds me that maybe I should leave this as a comment on slurdge.

A few answers for those running Deluge 0.5.6.2 on Win XP Pro w/ SP2 WITH ALL CURRENT MS UPDATES. (As I'd gone through and replicated the issues/solutions since previous alpha versions..):-
- Runtime errors or crashes. (Only crashed out once with alpha 22 before)
Possible cause(s): Undeleted program folder + settings folder in c:\user\document and settings.

Solution: Delete both AFTER uninstallations before newer installations and reboot before configurations.

Other tips: Though I'm not sure how these could really relate but apparently those .NET frameworks and VC++ runtimes needs to be current. Try to make sure of that as those components are important not only for p2p purposes but also for certain productivity and games' softwares.

- Port forwarding issues.
Possible causes: Port forwarding settings in your router and that's about it. I NEVER had any of those ports opened/closed issues and I can confirm the differences (which is NONE really) with or without Windows Firewall. You may even disable upnp (not necessary since or if you've successfully forwarded your port) and still achieve 100+kb/s with good seeded torrents.



NOTES: Pic shown with my PERMA fixed 60.5x.xx.xx IP, DHT disabled and hardware firewall running with port forwarded.

- Protocol encryption.
"Either" works just as fine as "Full stream" as long as it's enabled for both in and outbound connections with "Prefer to encrypt the entire stream" checked.

- Weird seeding behaviors. (below 100% completion)
Only seen this since alpha went 0.5.6 and it only happens to certain files with private trackers as it seems. Only way to resolve that is by removing the torrent file from the list and opening it back again to let it properly get completed for seeding (or usage) again.

@Lemmings
Yes you can resume your previous tasks. Provided if you set the completed downloads folder to the same destination as your saved torrent files, Deluge can automatically check for what needs to be continued.

@-Mogwai-
103.4kb/s there? Not really sure what's the issue? Or were you referring to some interface anomalies (also confused there?)?

This post has been edited by eq8all: Nov 2 2007, 09:38 AM

I'm pretty sure that there was a post a few pages back stating that non-unicode (possibly chinese characters etc) torrents' issue were rectified? Maybe there's still a few hiccups with certain torrents?

For me, actually the only reason I switched from Xunlei to Deluge is due to my findings that the previous 2 versions of Xunlei were almost as 'bloat-ish' as Azureus (yes I was using the ads-free versions but apparently the tweaks didn't seem to improve that situation). Speeds were fine really but I'm willing to sacrifice that and not risk the few 'unknowns' about that when heavy disk writes are in question even though on the hardware side, I'm sure that my comp can handle it. Better be safe than sorry kind of thing.

I was about to say that it's high time that we move these discussions there. At least we can wait out for dev-side feedbacks and whatnot? How about that Mr.TS? *flails arms to praveenmarkandu*

This post has been edited by eq8all: Nov 3 2007, 09:28 AM

@Wae
Double check if you're running any 'real time' monitoring processes by anti adware/spyware apps like Ad-Aware or Spyware Terminator. I stopped getting those when I disabled those off.

@Zaban
We'll need more deets there bro. Are you sure that you have properly forwarded the necessary ports (starting from 49152 - 65535, anywhere in between) or did you left that part with the default 6881-6882 range? 99% of any throttling ISP in the world blocks that range FYI. Again it's a good idea to disable uPnP once you've done (if successful) port forwarding that way.

@WaE
I'm not particularly familiar with Kaspersky but are we sure that you had disabled the background 'services' along with its systray functions? Try looking for those additional bg components by Run > services.msc > Enter

Uhh...I didn't exactly suggest that you forward the range through and through (say like 49152-49160 for example is better), that wouldn't be an advisable thing as you'll be opening too much ports for security concerns. However since you mentioned that you're running things in DMZ (eh that's a heck of an 'all open' mode there? not scared ah?) then I'm all out of marbles as to what's causing your port issues in Deluge. Hopefully it's a temporary thing...

@sniper69
That's the point really. If you managed to forward the specific ports properly, uPnP will be automatically unnecessary. Last time I checked that's how it works in every other BT clients.

@Lemmings
There's nothing wrong. Do remember that dl speeds' consistency are highly tied with peers and seeds' counts. We can't possibly expect to see those same peers to be online all the time.

@isMEheNG



* NAT-PMP according to Azureus is actually the same functionality renamed for Macs/Airports. However, since this part is included in this Windows port, I'd assumed that it functions as the normal NAT traversal feature as it is in clients like Bitcomet etc.



Version 0.5.6.2
Platform: Windows XP Pro w/ SP2
ISP: TM Streamyx Basic 1536/512
Area and dynamic IP: Ampang, Selangor. PERMA 60.5x.xxx.xx (yeah that's right. NO 60.48/.49/218.xx/219.xx/124.xx for me. My service port's FIXED -/-***)
ADSL Router: D-link DSL-2540T ADSL2/2+ 4 port
Notes: I don't patch my tcpip.sys file but tweaked the tcpmaxhalfopen with Cablenut's software. Been using that since past year so...

This post has been edited by eq8all: Nov 9 2007, 11:32 PM

@-Mogwai-
Yeah all good there bro.

@arafat
Usually when or if you'd 'specified' the downloads folder, all the affected 'partials', whether files or folders are in the same destination. Back those up 1st in a separate partition or blank DVDs, replace those same files after you've done your hd formatting with the same settings and into the same destination folder BEFORE you install and run Deluge again. It should be able to auto check everything again and resume by itself. I'm familiar with resumptions at clients' changes/uninstallations actually but if I guessed it correctly, it should work. No 100% guarantee though..

- Some notes about crashes (Win XP Pro w/ SP2 users)
> Most probable main culprit = real time monitoring processes/services by antivirus/anti adware/spyware softwares. Disable those in their specific configurations 1st then through run > services.msc and you'll be fine. Keeping regular updates and scans should compensate if any.

> For Vista users, if all else fails (IMO the above seems to be applicable or you could also try 'compatibility mode' before any fresh reinstallations) then it's best to refer to shinichi88's post just a few above mine here.

> Probably 'off the grid' with this 1 but it actually rings true in a lot of other 'Windows hiccupping' cases than just p2p stuffs. When was the last time you lot had done chkdsk/disk checks and proper OS updates? Those niggling runtimes are important for a lot of other things too you know..

- DL speeds' fluctuations.
> I shouldn't be posting about this if you're a seasoned BT user but it seems necessary. Do remember that consistency are strictly tied to seeds and peers' counts/'quality' with a more extreme variable thrown in the equation such as trackers' uptimes ('extreme' as in barring unforeseen circumstances like sudden downtimes that happened with demonoid recently etc). Counts are self explanatory but quality depends on those available with generous upload limits. And it goes w/o saying that timezones to peers' availability are equally important, which is why a lot of us will notice differences at certain times. So before anyone gets jumpy about dl speeds, do try to pause on these factors 1st before we all panic about getting throttled or whatnot.

@-Mogwai-
Which IP you're referring to? WAN or LAN? You're pretty much stuck if you meant WAN. For LAN, follow this guide (and bookmark that page while you're at it).

Taken a few minutes ago:-


Trust me when I say I KNOW what it means to have your bandwidth 'shapen' up for you, I'm on PERMA 60.5x.xxx.xx IP EVERY and at ANY time for the past 2 years running since day 1 screamyx sub. The above still proves that Deluge is better than any other bt clients that I had burnt through so far for me. Surely you people who can get any other 'faster' IPs than 60.48/.49/.5x can nail better results provided IF:-

- Your router has no ports' controls feature but only uPnP? Then you're screwed at that plain and simple. Not only for p2p purposes but for some rare and more legit cases such as proxies' ports, apps' updates to online gaming. Get a new one.

- Check, check and recheck your firewall settings. Got ZoneAlarm? Good..Figure that out. After that, don't forget that the windows one don't simply set itself off by magic? Check that 1 too.

Don't worry...There isn't such a thing as ports' blocking for shaping AFAIK of and if one kena, we all sure kena also. Remember that Deluge's primary strength is at 'deflecting' packet checks 'as best as it could' to seek out encrypted peers, which is completely different than expecting a fully encrypted operation. Just that it does this better than other bt clients. Non-unicode (Chinese, Japanese etc) torrent files works for me. TIP: My comp is with FULLY LOADED eastern lang support at installation for Win XP Pro w/ SP2. I'm not suggesting that you should reinstall everything though, use the workaround tips (different clients) as our fellow friends had suggested here.

Oh.. >.<::: Then we're out of marbles bro. Just like lionheart23 had pointed out for you, unless if you revert to a corporate screamyx sub (which isn't a good idea for p2p purposes as that will ultimately make you kena definitely..) for fixed IPs.

However... that guide that I had linked for you is particularly useful for port forwarding purposes.

@Pip_X
If you meant slurdge's blog still, by now it should be deemed as 'semi-official'. Bookmark http://deluge-torrent.org/ instead. Yeah I think whatever's the case, the guys should have updated theirs anyway but well..

Taken few minutes ago...


Version: 0.5.6.96 (0.5.7 RC2)
Current location: Starbucks Great Eastern Mall Jalan Ampang.

Figured that there wasn't any throttling going on with sbux' timezone, I rarely join that 'leech long hours with 1 beverage with laptops' bandwagon. So this is kinda like a crapshot test so to speak. Obviously my own preset ports are closed (LOL unless if I manage to bribe the staff to have a peek at their wireless gateway which is no way in hell are they gonna..) and uPnP disabled but surprisingly it's not half as bad as I'd expect.

This post has been edited by eq8all: Nov 26 2007, 03:24 PM

Try not to panic so much sometimes... Double check your seeds/peers' counts for every dl resumption you've done even for the same tasks. If those numbers differs every time, then it's a normal thing to see speed changes. Do remember about time zones' factor.

To the posters looking to try out older versions, it's best to add this link to your bookmarks. To skip that possible 'Would you like to be taken to our download site' snafu, make sure that BEFORE you attempt a fresh install (that means a proper uninstall + check and del previous prog folder + del 'deluge' settings' folder in documents and settings' folder), DISABLE any live Internet or LAN connection. This will prevent the message from even popping up to save a few cautions.

Atm for me, v0.5.7.1 works OK without those mysterious minimized windows and grey boxes as opposed to v0.5.7.1-2. Though since v0.5.7, it seems that they somehow messed something up in the GUI department. I can't seem to 'deselect' unnecessary columns but dl speeds remains excellent and no crashouts at all.

@donpapachino
You know.. I'd only seen that error (seen NONE right up till v0.5.7.1 RC1 = v0.5.9.96) with specific torrent files OR if I got some bg anti spyware apps + services running. Once I disabled those then voila it went OK.


v0.5.7.1-3 works fine and this time without those weird windows previously rampant in v0.5.7.1-2:-

> Win XP Pro SP2
> TM Streamyx Basic 1536/512 PERMA 60.5x.xx.xxx IP range
> Ports forwarded.
> DHT and uPnP disabled.
> Everything under preferences > other tab disabled.


This post has been edited by eq8all: Dec 16 2007, 12:33 AM

Point your cursor on 'Windows Installer' after you've selected Windows' distro and check the file name on your browser's status bar. It should give the specific version hint.