I personally feel that is not fair for us because it is reasonable we bump all the threads at the same time. If we keep on bumping all threads at the same time and hog the screen space several times within a day, then that is not fair to all forumers but we are only allow bump the thread once a day, so it is fair enough to bump all the threads at the same time. Besides that, if there is 30 minutes gap between each post each time we bump, it is not fair. Eg: we bump all the threads at 12pm but some of our threads left behind few pages around at 9am. Next, I personally think that many "indirect bump" problems will occur.


p/s: This is my personal opinion, no offense here. Thanks

This post has been edited by vC_cRe@tioN: Jul 30 2007, 01:48 PM

First of all, you need to view the complaint made on user which hog the trade zone. Most of them have item which can be categorized in 1 thread instead made multiple.

Secondly, I think this is quite fair to the other user as well as there is quite a lot of user which have more than 5 thread alone but unfair to others which have 1 or 2 item to sell. Just look around. If all of them having bump fiesta, so where does the normal user which would like to sell the 2nd hand/used item be? As example, vC_cRe@tioN, based on your siggy, instead of having 3 used thread of handphone, why not you merge it in one?Nothing is wrong with having all in 1 thread, whereby search engine could search your keyword.

Thirdly, you can always pick your good time to bump. If you know the peak time of user in LYN, you will take the opportunity to bump the thread.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Jul 30 2007, 01:50 PM

Normally i will merge 2 items in a thread, K700i and QD threads have merge 2 items in a thread but the 2nd item already sold so left 1 item only, if have new item then i will merge into the thread. And then the V3i thread was created before the second item of the k700i and QD thread sold, the "edit" date can show everything.

Btw, the peak time of user in LYN is what time?

based on your own observation
if your target customer is workers of o-fy-see,
then you might want to target the lunh-hour/after working hours
for students, might as well be other time
observations .... open your senses and absorb....

Not fair you say? It is the first page that is most valuable for a topic to be in. Mass bumpers push a whole page of other members' topics out to the second page irrespective of how long they've been there.

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Added on July 30, 2007, 2:46 pmYou can't avoid having your threads getting pushed back, but you can schedule your bumps in a way that improves the situation.

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Added on July 30, 2007, 2:48 pmIndirect bumps and duplicate accounts made to intentionally game the system will be dealt with the usual way.

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Added on July 30, 2007, 2:50 pmOk actually i think i have another way to achieve this. Instead of pushing bumped threads back, i could schedule a auto bump for 30 minutes in the future. Better?

wont the 30 minutes feature takes a toll on the servers?

or it is scarscm?

No, I was serious Hmm why do you think it takes a toll on the servers?

ok.. i support this change! but dont u think that 30 mnt is to long? i suggest 15 mnt la..

if granted
i would think there will be request for 10 mis, and then 5 mins, and then 30 secs and then...

@vC_cRe@tioN: After looking at ur siggy, there is a general topic that i can think of?

Handphone
Sales and service

How hard is it to group all of ur sales and services under a single thread?

When u r here complaining about the 30 minutes bump interval, have u thought about those users who just have 1 ~ 2 threads?

Plz b dun mind about my suggestion.... iz it can b set for each section cant b bump for more than 5 thread? Gap is quite troubling... Jz my 2 cent...

You may report it to me or hit the button should you come across any.

Personally i feel that the proper solution would be to limit the number of threads a person has under the Trade Zone, instead of putting a time limit to bumping
So by allowing sellers to keep a ridiculous amount of threads, they're already being nice

Anyway, about the thing which you say are 'not fair', they only apply to sellers with that many threads in the first place (abusing the system i'd say)
If we continue to allow you to have an unlimited amount of threads, no regulated bump time then it becomes not fair for the other hundreds of users with only a small amount of threads
It looks like you're taking it on the perspective of yourself only

This post has been edited by KilJim: Jul 30 2007, 07:41 PM

bro wKkaY, i think auto bump for 30 minutes in the future will better.

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Added on July 30, 2007, 8:09 pmbro zyrl, if group all my sales thread under a single thread, i think it will be very messy, right? so i put 2 items under a single thread because each sales item have include details and photo as well.

btw, i thought bro wKkaY need feedback from forumers, right? (It is stated at the announcement)
so this is just my feeback/opinion, not complain

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Added on July 30, 2007, 8:20 pmFirst, all the threads only can bump once a day, right? so regulated bump time point is?

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Added on July 30, 2007, 8:27 pmLastly, hope the admin can come out with a proper solution such as bro wKkay's, jtcs87's proposal. I personally think that limit 2 threads bump at the same time and then another 2 threads 30 minutes in the future.

To fellow admin and moderator, this is just my personal opinion, no offense here, thanks

This post has been edited by vC_cRe@tioN: Jul 30 2007, 08:27 PM

I guess the 30 mins gap is fair since you won't see the whole page posted by the same person.

This post has been edited by sunauto: Jul 30 2007, 08:39 PM

So that a single seller cannot take up a whole page at any one point in time
I thought you'd already know that, what we're you talking about if you didn't?

I second what KilJim has said. The seller can also used the reserved post(after the 1st post for that purpose) for other product which fall in in same/similar category

It won't be messy if you know how to utilise the thread.
You could in fact use 1st post for item one, post 2 for item etc.
Used this http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/485002 as 1 of the reference and information that are necessary.

Referring to your http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics

I don't think it is necessary to open up to 10 thread at 1 go alone in Handphone and Related Accessories? I mean come on, your used phone thread, i think there are 3 to 4 that can be merged together. Same goes to the sim card.
You might used the topic title as Used Handphone bla bla bla and used the topic description as various handphone to sell or used it to change the status or etc too right?

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Jul 30 2007, 09:21 PM

That is what i doing now, i post 2 items under a single thread, you can check it at my thread. If u mean that merge 4 items into a thread, i think it will be quite messy because used handphone need to attach the details and photo as well (the photo must cover every angle). I posting all the threads by following "format" that set by LYN. Regarding the starter pack, i selling hundreds of numbers and I seperately it according to 014 and 016, i think it is reasonable, right? If i merged hundreds numbers under a thread, you think it will messy or not? If you ask me merge the 012 thread into other thread, that is reasonable because i only sell few 012 numbers but not the 014 and 016.

up to 10 threads? Come on, i thought you already do survey before posting up your comment? The sales thread that i open not even reach 10 threads.

Lastly, the main point i post here is about the bump feature, hope admin can take consideration regarding "push back" and "put forward", i personally agree with wKkay's proposal which "put forward" to 30 minutes. Thanks

autobump is not possible.
reason? number of threads is a variable, time of a day is a constant.
in other words,u cant schedule a right bumping time.

i would rather suggest more threads be displayed in 1 page

I mean how messy could it be?
You can just reserved 1 post for 1 item, use spoiler tag to hide up the picture, add your details..
do the same for the next item.. how hard could it be?
It doesn't need to be necessary 1 post 1 item. Some seller, particularly in Stuff for Ladies, some of you guys must learn from them. And for the starter pack, the same thing can be applied too.
1st post for 012, second post 014, third post 016. Isn't it more organized rather than having few redundant thread, and as well hogging the trade zone?

Simple said, if you have the will, nothing is impossible.

Cheers

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Jul 30 2007, 10:08 PM

bro stevanistelrooy, i really wonder did you checked my threads before posting up your comment? Did you saw the "reserved" post at my thread? I posted 2 items in a single thread, not 1 thread 1 item, the k700i and the QD thread have 2 items under a single thread but i sold the 2nd item already, kindly check it carefully, thanks.

anyway, i will TRY to fit 4 items in a single thread if the admin insist want to "PUSH BACK" the thread, thanks

This post has been edited by vC_cRe@tioN: Jul 30 2007, 10:17 PM

^ it was meant for general. Not only you

Oh man....i just notice the change of bump features

But 30mins too long i think. Should admins make it 10-15mins? Trade Zone section moving fast after the bump features was introduced. So after 30mins maybe my thread, for example, already at 2nd or 3rd page before i can bump another thread.

This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Jul 31 2007, 01:16 AM

i always surf from the 1st page til the back
den i tend to surf back the top of 1st page and see if there's any thread tat has new msg or juz bumped
the interval is making me confused
but i oso found out tat ppl with more than 5threads, bumping all threads together is pushing back all other threads

I found last night, thread that been bump at 12.00am++, 29 july already gone to page 22
It's only 24hours.

OK, I've read the suggestions put forth. I'll update this topic as I make changes over the next few days.

i have a better solution. since many of people who want to list thier tred in first page. why not come out with paid for first page for a few. make it as bidder. and it can last for how long...well i think that will make a lot thing batter

better? no
what if they're rich enough to pay every time the period given for them to list their threads on the first page expired?
and, what about the traders that can't afford at all? their threads will be always pushed back forever
and, i do believe it's not fair for everyone because everyone has the same right to bump their threads on the front page, but it is wrong to hog the front page with all of their threads

but, maybe if you suggest of opening a new section/subforum for paid traders, then i think it's considerable


I have a question,

Is it against the rules, to post a thread, then link it to an online shop?

For an example:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=announce&f=11&id=25

30 minute gap is too long.... if i got 5 tread....the 1st i bum will go to 3rd page liao..

Morning ...
bro wKkaY...any updates regarding the "pushing forward" proposal?

Give them some reasonable time, they don't just sit in front of their pc just to serve you.

that means
try not create to many thread
when all stuff is in a single thread
when u bump it, all of them will go to the top.

make the sales reconize by you name rather than the stuffs you are selling

That's the reason they implement this system, so that you cant bump all the topics one shot occupying the whole screen of the first page.

I try where I can

Uhh.. maybe over the weekend? I've been busy with some other engagements this week.

Bump feature has changed? No notice or annoucement 1?

where have you been all this while? Pluto?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=announce&f=11&id=34

strongly agreed ^
educate forumer to utilize 'filter' function..
people wll pm you directly if they are interested on your products. sellers here are not only for profit hunter.. i believe when u are active enough in posting comments here and there, ppl saw your signature also an indirect bump to your thread/products already