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GrumpyNooby
post Jan 30 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 30 2021, 04:19 PM)
U try comparing la
One is affin hwang enchanted deposit fund, one is East spring islamic income fund.

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Simple™ is projected return of 2.4% pa.
Unverified source mentioned earlier that SAMY is subsiding the projected return.

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post Jan 30 2021, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 30 2021, 07:16 PM)
Versa said their 2.46% don't know how accurate.
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It is very close to what Affin reported:

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YTD: 2.5% as of 31/12/2020

But Eastspring reported 1.9% for its YTD:

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And SAMY is still projecting 2.4% pa
GrumpyNooby
post Jan 30 2021, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Jan 30 2021, 08:20 PM)
why SAMY still say 2.4% pa?
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Please ask clarification from SAMY:
https://www.stashaway.my/contact

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post Jan 30 2021, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Jan 30 2021, 08:22 PM)
can u ask and tel us here?
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I have no interest over Simple™ or have any holdings in Simple™; hence no interest over this product nor how SAMY maintain the projection.
Sorry for the inconveniences caused.
GrumpyNooby
post Jan 31 2021, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 31 2021, 08:09 AM)
Possible at that rate with another OPR rate cut of 0.25 this year which looks like gonna happen by Q2

But the key feature fast liquidity so it’s better than sitting the money in savings if it’s workable as key selling point  rclxms.gif
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Idling money can still be parked in conditional high yield saving/current account without lock in period;ie RHB Smart Account @ 2.85% pa

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post Jan 31 2021, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(propertyfeature @ Jan 31 2021, 10:58 AM)
UOB's One Account is not too bad as well with interest rate ranging from 1.65% to 2.15% (provided criterias are fulfilled). Don't have the hassle transfer funds here & there.
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UOB InvestPro can easily give 1.70% pa without any extra criteria at all.
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post Jan 31 2021, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(propertyfeature @ Jan 31 2021, 11:07 AM)
Not difficult to fulfill the criteria, as UOB One Account is my main bank account. Naturally, I will have bills to pay..
The best returns are still in stocks..
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InvestPro is my salary crediting account.
I got Stash too but the tier band range is too high; so I abandoned it.
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post Jan 31 2021, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 31 2021, 11:51 AM)
any money market funds in singapore that is easily accessible to malaysians who have sg account? so far money only in sg bank account doing ntg, and im not ready to go into higher risk investments there yet.
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Via FSM SG?
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post Feb 1 2021, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Feb 1 2021, 07:22 AM)
Can, you can register with your passport.
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If passport has just expired recently, can still use?
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post Feb 1 2021, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Feb 1 2021, 08:38 AM)
Expired passport cannot use for registration. I also go to renew passport in order they activate my account  sweat.gif
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They'll check? hmm.gif
Need to attach the passport first page (page with photo) right?
GrumpyNooby
post Feb 1 2021, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Feb 1 2021, 06:35 PM)
Hi guys, I'm very new to MMF.
Having my emergency fund parked at PMMMF for more than half year now, due to its liquidity & relatively slight above average returns.

However, the return rate is gradually slipping off ever since 2020.
From the previous posts, it seems that OPR and MMF performance could be relative to each other; may I know how exactly the OPR is affecting MMF the performance?
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Isn't the relationship is very direct as MMF is investing in money market/cash fund?

OPR affects all interest-tied banking products including saving/current account, FDs, TIA and loans (short/term loan, mortgage and hire purchase).
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post Feb 2 2021, 04:46 PM

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PMMMF rate as of 29/01/2021 is 1.77% pa

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post Feb 4 2021, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Feb 4 2021, 11:37 AM)
Thanks for the replies.
Like I mentioned, I'm very new to MMF. If you ask me, I think barely know about the implication of OPR.
Tried my best to understand the concept, but it's still very abstract to me.
I'm not a professional in finance, economy, you see. The product fact-sheet is filled with finance-jargons. That's why I am asking.

Thanks to you, I manage to know that MMF allocation consists of interest-imposed products available in bank.
Btw, what's TIAsweat.gif My search results are not helpful at all.  rclxub.gif 
And it seems that the amount of returns from those products was determined by OPR, I presume.

May I know if all the following products/instruments depending on OPR as well?

Asset allocation: Primarily in government / government-backed securities, bills of exchange, negotiable certificate of deposits, promissory notes,
call deposits and other short-term government/ bank-backed securities and money market instruments.

Section Allocation as at 31st Dec 2020:
100% Cash, The Fund invest in Short-term Money Market Instruments and Placement in Short-term Deposit only


May I know what's the significance of different weightage of cash/bond in a MMF product?
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TIA = Term Investment Account

Example of such product: https://www.cimb.com.my/en/personal/day-to-...-account-i.html
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post Feb 4 2021, 04:52 PM

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BNM unlikely to cut OPR further in 2021 — Affin Hwang

KUALA LUMPUR (Feb 4): Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) is unlikely to cut its overnight policy rate (OPR) any further from the current 1.75% in 2021.

During a question and answer (Q&A) session at Affin Hwang Capital’s Malaysia Economic Outlook and Construction Sector Briefing today, Affin Hwang chief economist Alan Tan said that as it stands, BNM cut the OPR by 125 basis points (bps) last year, and that the central bank feels the current OPR is supportive of economic growth.

“Therefore, we believe that the central bank would likely leave the rate at 1.75%."

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bnm-...%94-affin-hwang
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post Feb 5 2021, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 5 2021, 06:58 PM)
Just type any amount
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Money in bank account already?
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post Feb 6 2021, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 6 2021, 08:04 AM)
Updated-withdrawal completed. Get money faster. It is ok compare to status update.
Can continue to use since its work
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So the conclusion is which app better? Versa or Allocate+?
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post Feb 6 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 6 2021, 10:42 AM)
based on extra fees on versa, allocate+ is better
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How much is the extra fee?
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post Feb 6 2021, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 6 2021, 10:56 AM)
according to ironman
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But I thought Versa has clarified that the 0.3% management won't be levied upon customers but instead will be borne by Versa and Affin in 50:50 ratio.
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post Feb 6 2021, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Feb 6 2021, 11:05 AM)
U try confirm with Versa, remember share it later
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They made a public statement:

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The annual management fee of 0.32% will be split in half between Versa and AHAM, he says, adding that “Versa will be in charge of customer acquisition and the continuous development of its mobile app while AHAM will focus on managing the money of the investors”.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/fint...est-both-worlds

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post Feb 6 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 6 2021, 11:07 AM)
both is for diff purpose.
Versa - should be better than stashaway simple. fast deposit, withdrawal and 2 week income distribution. Not to forget, delay will get overnight interest.
AllocatePlus - good to buy Affin hwang unit trust in small fraction compare to FSM. Like potential to invest even with small amount of money.
Anyway, good for diversification option.
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If Allocate+ can offer similar Versa flexibility, I rather go for Allocate+
Managing too many apps is pain in the ass.

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