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Xiaomi POCO F2 Pro, The New Flagship killer?

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bangolufsen
post May 29 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 02:01 PM)
For F1, we need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter:
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DisplayLink is a tech certified to run on any Android devices be it smartphones or Tablets. We also need to install the DisplayLink Presenter Driver in the smartphones/tablets in order to stream via the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

Below is the accessories for the F1:
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 29 2020, 02:07 PM)
2.0 3.1 those are not relevant.

I suspect you just need a USB-C to HDMI cable/adapter. I suspect that cable/adapter need MHL support as well.
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Thank you, quite confusing to be honest. It’s like taking a gamble to see which phone can have HDMI output.
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post May 29 2020, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(bangolufsen @ May 29 2020, 05:18 PM)
Thank you, quite confusing to be honest. It’s like taking a gamble to see which phone can have HDMI output.
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For Android platform, those flagships from Sammy, Who-R-We and OnePlus are confirmed to have display output "built-in" into the USB-C port. So, just buy any ordinary USB-C to HDMI cable will do. No need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

But flagships from Xiaomi/Poco/etc. does not have built-in display output in their USB-C port. So, to be on the safe side, just get the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter and 100% any Android devices (Smartphones/Tablets) will be able to have display out features. But, DisplayLink Dock/Adapter is not cheap because it is a "license" (like the Qualcomm Quick Charge license) and no competitor out there yet. So, they control the market.

One more reason why Xiaomi/Poco "flagships" are cheap:
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post May 29 2020, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 05:39 PM)
For Android platform, those flagships from Sammy, Who-R-We and OnePlus are confirmed to have display output "built-in" into the USB-C port. So, just buy any ordinary USB-C to HDMI cable will do. No need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

But flagships from Xiaomi/Poco/etc. does not have built-in display output in their USB-C port. So, to be on the safe side, just get the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter and 100% any Android devices (Smartphones/Tablets) will be able to have display out features. But, DisplayLink Dock/Adapter is not cheap because it is a "license" (like the Qualcomm Quick Charge license) and no competitor out there yet. So, they control the market.

One more reason why Xiaomi/Poco "flagships" are cheap:
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Well, the Mi 10 certainly isn't cheap anymore, hahaha. Wonder what USB C port that uses.

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post May 29 2020, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 05:39 PM)
For Android platform, those flagships from Sammy, Who-R-We and OnePlus are confirmed to have display output "built-in" into the USB-C port. So, just buy any ordinary USB-C to HDMI cable will do. No need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

But flagships from Xiaomi/Poco/etc. does not have built-in display output in their USB-C port. So, to be on the safe side, just get the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter and 100% any Android devices (Smartphones/Tablets) will be able to have display out features. But, DisplayLink Dock/Adapter is not cheap because it is a "license" (like the Qualcomm Quick Charge license) and no competitor out there yet. So, they control the market.

One more reason why Xiaomi/Poco "flagships" are cheap:
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Thank you for this detailed explanation. Appreciate it a lot!
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post May 29 2020, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ May 29 2020, 05:44 PM)
Well, the Mi 10 certainly isn't cheap anymore, hahaha. Wonder what USB C port that uses.
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That's why I don't like USB-C port at all.... (surprised with my statement...? LOL). The physical port is the same USB-C but the protocols can be as listed below:

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There's incoming USB 4.0 protocol soon.

To me USB-C physical port is currently not properly being differentiate between protocols. OEMs should start colouring the USB-C port(s) on smartphones/PCs/lptops/iPads/MacBook/etc being black as basic USB 2.0 protocols and different colours for USB 3.2 Gen 1 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 protocol or USB 4.0 protocol or etc...

And then ThunderBolt??? Use white colour USB-C port loohhh...

Xiaomi/Poco can get away from general public but they ain't fool me regarding these USB-C port...
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post May 29 2020, 07:22 PM

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So we can assume F2P will be the same....?

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attw : Sammy's Snap865 is not great after all... of course this is just synthetic benchmark... nothing detrimental to user experience...
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 07:22 PM)
So we can assume F2P will be the same....?

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attw : Sammy's Snap865 is not great after all... of course this is just synthetic benchmark... nothing detrimental to user experience...
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It's showing the cheapest ones are the high scorers in the benchmarks as opposed to the pricier siblings! Hahaha...

Does the screen refresh rate playba part in the scores? Samsung fanboys will argue theirs got 120hz refresh rate laugh.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ May 29 2020, 07:44 PM)
It's showing the cheapest ones are the high scorers in the benchmarks as opposed to the pricier siblings! Hahaha...

Does the screen refresh rate playba part in the scores? Samsung fanboys will argue theirs got 120hz refresh rate laugh.gif
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Nubia RedMagic 5G is 144 Hz also 3rd place leyyy... Sammy's OneUI is to be blame...LOL...
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post May 29 2020, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 06:36 PM)
That's why I don't like USB-C port at all.... (surprised with my statement...? LOL). The physical port is the same USB-C but the protocols can be as listed below:

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There's incoming USB 4.0 protocol soon.

To me USB-C physical port is currently not properly being differentiate between protocols. OEMs should start colouring the USB-C port(s) on smartphones/PCs/lptops/iPads/MacBook/etc being black as basic USB 2.0 protocols and different colours for USB 3.2 Gen 1 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 protocol or USB 4.0 protocol or etc...

And then ThunderBolt??? Use white colour USB-C port loohhh...

Xiaomi/Poco can get away from general public but they ain't fool me regarding these USB-C port...
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You should hate most other USB port also biggrin.gif
What grind my gear are how USB IF or manufacturer change naming. USB 3.1 3.2 gen 1 2 3, IINM they even changed previous speed to another name. Fxxking idiot stupid forum ( USB IF ).

Color does help, but I think it depends on manufacturer. Most use blue for 3.0 but like Razer laptop's USB3.0 are green ( Razor theme )
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 07:57 PM)
Nubia RedMagic 5G is 144 Hz also 3rd place leyyy... Sammy's OneUI is to be blame...LOL...
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Yeah, that's what I thought too biggrin.gif
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post May 29 2020, 08:40 PM

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Hi guys, Will this phone available at mi physical store? Scare buy at online phone will missing....
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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ May 29 2020, 08:40 PM)
Hi guys, Will this phone available at mi physical store? Scare buy at online phone will missing....
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Sure got, previous f1 also got sell at physical store.
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post May 29 2020, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ May 29 2020, 08:40 PM)
Hi guys, Will this phone available at mi physical store? Scare buy at online phone will missing....
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Buy from trusted official seller you won't have to worry those issues.
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post May 29 2020, 09:42 PM

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I have decided to go for poco f2 pro rather than x3 zoom:
1. Smaller chin
2. snapdragon 865
3. no punch hole
4. on screen fp
5. amoled

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post May 29 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 29 2020, 09:42 PM)
I have decided to go for poco f2 pro rather than x3 zoom:
1. Smaller chin
2. snapdragon 865
3. no punch hole
4. on screen fp
5. amoled

hehe
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Make sure to get the accessories first before placing F2P order... not sure the existing K30P can fit or not... Tempered glass sure fit but casing is 99% fit(?)
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post May 29 2020, 10:06 PM

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If really HDMI output is an important thing for you. Can just get one of the HDMI to USB c cables from one of the brands that support ezcast. Needs an app but it will cast everything from your phone just like how a few companies have built in display output via type c.

Cost less than RM1xx
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 09:52 PM)
Make sure to get the accessories first before placing F2P order... not sure the existing K30P can fit or not... Tempered glass sure fit but casing is 99% fit(?)
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haha...i dont use case and sp one
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QUOTE(sp6068 @ May 29 2020, 08:58 PM)
Buy from trusted official seller you won't have to worry those issues.
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Official online mi store 1999 seems good deal but scare courier staff steal it while shipping, already have many case even laptop....
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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ May 29 2020, 10:40 PM)
Official online mi store 1999 seems good deal but scare courier staff steal it while shipping, already have many case even laptop....
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I believe official Mi Store is by LEX
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 29 2020, 10:18 PM)
haha...i dont use case and sp one
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Wait, no protection at all??? The Maaaaaaaaaannnnnn notworthy.gif rclxm9.gif

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