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post Jul 30 2007, 05:20 PM

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Nowadays there is MLTA which is better than MRTA as described by banker. Unlike MRTA, you won't need to pay in lump sum. Furthermore, the coverage of MLTA is not decrease in relative to your loan amount but fixed.

As for renovation works, It all depends on personal preference, some like to renovate in grand manner while others do it in moderate manner.
MAybe I can help you in renovation works, just PM me. tongue.gif


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post Jul 30 2007, 05:57 PM

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hmm.. the sum all seem so big. but i will finance it by selling one of the condo in KK and exchange with one in KL so no worries. hehe.
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post Jul 30 2007, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Jul 30 2007, 05:57 PM)
@yewkhuay
hmm.. the sum all seem so big. but i will finance it by selling one of the condo  in KK and exchange with one in KL so no worries. hehe.
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oh, didn't know u got one condo in KK..... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Jul 30 2007, 05:57 PM)
@yewkhuay
hmm.. the sum all seem so big. but i will finance it by selling one of the condo  in KK and exchange with one in KL so no worries. hehe.
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oh, didn't know u got one condo in KK..... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 30 2007, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jul 30 2007, 04:16 PM)

if you are a normal wage earner, you need to show your payslip... in general, banks prefer the installment amount to me about 1/3 of your gross salary, some insists on net salary...

say you buy a RM300K prop, you somehow managed to settle the down payment, legal fees and insurance with cash, you will have a clean RM270k loan...
take 20 years tenor@BLR-1.2% you will end up with RM1.8k loan installment...
technically you need to have a basic salary of RM5.4k... at 24, how many can have that kind of constant salary?
another thing to note, property prices don't always go up... check out Bukit Beruntung...
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Kenji1903,

If the person have not pay off the car, the salary requirement will be higher.

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post Jul 30 2007, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 29 2007, 10:50 AM)
scrubiee,

A) Make sure that you can afford the down payment, furniture, renovation and etc.. So, we are talking about at least 30K to 60K of savings.

B) Make sure that you have enough income.

C) Are you married?? If not, you future spouse may force you to move and sell the house.

IMHO, the younger and earlier that you buy a house, you will be in a worst financial situation.  In summary, I think it is a BAD IDEA.

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hey Dreamer, u said is a bad ideal ? and thus, what do you suggest ? dump all the cash into stock ? you speak somewhow like what a city broker in wall street practised. if not buying a house at young, what age should he/she buy ? when buy a house, is there any age guidelines for better hints ? if everyone keep having this thinking, all the properties market will be so dull. well, i understand it is just your opinions, but, dont you think is sort of bias ?
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post Jul 30 2007, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 30 2007, 07:38 PM)
Kenji1903,

If the person have not pay off the car, the salary requirement will be higher.

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didn't quite get you here smile.gif

maybe i am lucky because i'm using my dad's old car, i do not need to buy a car now therefore i put my lump sum into a condo smile.gif
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post Jul 31 2007, 12:05 AM

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not my condo la.. but my dad's condo. got 2 in KK and 2 landed property in Tawau(sabah) not including my own house. so i plan to sell one of the condo to learn to invest in property.
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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Jul 31 2007, 12:05 AM)
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not my condo la.. but my dad's condo. got 2 in KK and 2 landed property in Tawau(sabah) not including my own house. so i plan to sell one of the condo to learn to invest in property.
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sell one condo to get cash to learn investment in property ? tht's even higher tactic than buying rm400+ books.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 31 2007, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jul 30 2007, 04:16 PM)
another thing to note, property prices don't always go up... check out Bukit Beruntung...
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Bkt Beruntung is one great case to show how important marketing is.
Also, how the consumer's blinded when the economy's good.

When Bkt Beruntung was launched, Malaysia's economy was at its peak. Most ppl got spare money in pocket.
Property in Klang Valley blooming. Everyone thinking the outskirt would be the next big thing.

And then the Bkt Beruntung ad, on TV during prime time, newspaper etc. Claiming its 15 minutes drive away from KL via NSE, which is not true.


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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Jul 31 2007, 12:05 AM)
@yewkhuay
not my condo la.. but my dad's condo. got 2 in KK and 2 landed property in Tawau(sabah) not including my own house. so i plan to sell one of the condo to learn to invest in property.
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Why u so eager to learn property investment?
It's not like something u can buy today & sell tomorrow.
Just the legal procedure alone would take 4-6 months to complete.

Anyhow, the point of it is similar to other sorts of investments.
See what other people don't see. Buy low sell high.


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post Jul 31 2007, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jul 31 2007, 02:00 AM)
Bkt Beruntung is one great case to show how important marketing is.
Also, how the consumer's blinded when the economy's good.

When Bkt Beruntung was launched, Malaysia's economy was at its peak. Most ppl got spare money in pocket.
Property in Klang Valley blooming. Everyone thinking the outskirt would be the next big thing.

And then the Bkt Beruntung ad, on TV during prime time, newspaper etc. Claiming its 15 minutes drive away from KL via NSE, which is not true.
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KLIA was supposed to be build near Bukit Beruntung, so some rich guy bought the whole piece of land, developed it and suddenly due to political reasons KLIA's plans was moved to where it is now...

my dad's friend bought one there and can't even sell off at half the price!

well, the outskirts are still a big thing:
1. KL city centre land is too expensive, MK going around RM450-RM600 psf, KLCC around RM750-RM1100 psf
2. less dense and expensive highways to the city makes it a better place to stay, less congestion, slightly better air.
else why would there be so many landed developments in Klang, Shah Alam, Sg. Buloh, Serdang and Rawang?
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post Jul 31 2007, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(a6meister @ Jul 30 2007, 11:39 PM)
hey Dreamer, u said is a bad ideal ? and thus, what do you suggest ? dump all the cash into stock ? you speak somewhow like what a city broker in wall street practised.  if not buying a house at young, what age should he/she buy ? when buy a house, is there any age guidelines for better hints ?  if everyone keep having this thinking, all the properties market will be so dull. well, i understand it is just your opinions, but, dont you think is sort of bias ?
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a6meister,

Have you read carefully?? TS does not have the cash yet. Even if he does, he only has the minimum. And, he probably has not pay off his car yet.

So, do you think it is a GOOD IDEA for a person to buy both car and house and get themselves into serious DEBT HOLE at young age??

Do a person buy a 300K house while still paying for a car?? The person only works for 3 years after graduation. Can a normal person afford this??

Should a person get into this kind of serious DEBT?

<<if not buying a house at young, what age should he/she buy ? when buy a house, is there any age guidelines for better hints ? >>

I had mentioned this before. The best time is after a person pay off their car and had worked for 5 to 10 years. Paying for both car and house at the same time is a serious burden for most people

<<If everyone keep having this thinking, all the properties market will be so dull. >>

Most people do not think this way. And, they ended up paying to the bank for their whole life and making me rich. This is one of reason why most average people are not rich. They spent most of their income on interest that they pay to the bank.

Actually, if people do not listen to my advice, it is better for me. I make more money this way.

Think carefully....

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post Jul 31 2007, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jul 31 2007, 02:00 AM)

Why u so eager to learn property investment?
It's not like something u can buy today & sell tomorrow.
Just the legal procedure alone would take 4-6 months to complete.
ya...and alot of surprised additional costs might come in way.
And suddenly if u found your buyer is a PR after assuming that he is a Local, more time needed and other cost.
sometimes your house nobody wanna buy.....every year u gotto pay upkeep, utilities and etc.....
ohh..its not easy especially when u in need of money. I think only shd buy if u are very ready or when opportunity arises.


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post Jul 31 2007, 12:59 PM

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ya. now waiting opportunities to airse. so selling the condo in KK 1st. so can have spare cash when the time comes. anyway, i chose real estate because i'm better off with it than stocks or funds. and it requires less time once you found the right property. unlike stocks which u have to monitor everyday.
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post Jul 31 2007, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jul 31 2007, 09:59 AM)
well, the outskirts are still a big thing:
else why would there be so many landed developments in Klang, Shah Alam, Sg. Buloh, Serdang and Rawang?
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Eh.. now is 2007.
Bkt Beruntung time is 1993 (if not mistaken).

Did any purchaser ever envision the property he/she bought would be left vacant for 14 years. No, not even in worst nightmare.
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post Aug 2 2007, 08:56 PM

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hey guys thank you for the information
hmm business im in is insurance basically a retail financial service provider main product im selling are investment links products and many more, going to do unit trust after my studies
no im not married but i plan 2 marry at 24 so i need a house..

k my future i plan to have a few companies such as event organizers and advertisement company 1st and later on a few more.. insurance is just the start for me 2 pump all my capitals in to these new businesses

i bought a few investment/financial magazines this month and i found my answer about getting a house thank you again guys, these are the 3 magazines i got, Smart Investor(Purchasing home tips), Personal money by the edge and 4E journal
thank you guys for your time it means alot to me, i believe as human beings we need to learn constantly because learning is a never ending process!


 

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