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post May 11 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 11 2020, 03:08 AM)
This one no auction sheet will include
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i remember this one
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post May 11 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(set @ May 11 2020, 09:54 AM)
i remember this one
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One of many many lol

Even Japan side can hanky panky, Malaysia side laugh.gif
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post May 11 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 11 2020, 10:04 AM)
One of many many lol

Even Japan side can hanky panky, Malaysia side laugh.gif
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that's why, married then don't go dig her history
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post May 11 2020, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(set @ May 11 2020, 10:05 AM)
that's why, married then don't go dig her history
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laugh.gif good one!
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post May 11 2020, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 11 2020, 03:04 AM)
From my previous post:
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Bro that box so small you think can write ferry pets or OKU ke?
From what I read on your sample, is only private/personal usage (mine same anyways and yes I can read some Japanese)

At least I've never ever seen a sheet saying "hard driven, circuit/Touge/Wangan usage" laugh.gif

And all those sheets are handwritten, what makes you think they cannot be forged or have misinformation? Not all auction places are fully run by Japanese also lol.

Attached is my examples on MILT database and my auction sheets.
The auction sheet the dealer given me was 4.5 grade lol
Can't provide that sample as he only shown me in person and not from WhatsApp picture or soft copy.

My previous point in my previous post still stands, and no I'm not saying scrut is useless and I'm not bias against scrut or in favor to Carvx (I don't gain any commission or anything from them lol)
Scrut is cheap so long it can provide the information you're seeking and assuming there is no issue with the auction sheet and you're satisfied with just that.

Other service like carvx/Autopatrul goes beyond with the database that also includes accident/insurance claim records.
That is very valuable beyond an auction sheet and I don't think I need to explain why.
My car was never involved in accident however a member car has and auction sheets can't tell anything as repair was done.
On Carvx the car was badly damaged and pictures was even included about the accident that auction sheet did not show.
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I agree with this one,

The report from scrut is only report from the auction and we cant just assume that the guys at japan will not tamper/repair before putting it on auction . nothing personal just business. the report is incomplete. bought report but wasn't from scrut. a bit suspicious for a 4 year old car to only have 15k mileage.
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post May 12 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 10 2020, 05:30 PM)
u went to any recond car dealer, the condition u see will always be "after touch up"
they will never let u see the "before touch up" because you're not gonna buy it laugh.gif

the tyres, most of the time will not be in stock tyre already...you can only make sure all tyres are the same brand & same series(sometime it won't laugh.gif ), good amount of thread
make sure it's not snow tyres
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I saw Naza cars before touch up .
my brother one alphard still with original stock tyre. same manufacture year as the vehicle
mine one rear one are stock tyre and front are new.

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post May 12 2020, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 11 2020, 03:08 AM)
This one no auction sheet will include
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yes it will
in the auction grade.. this will be rated R in the auction sheet
minor or major accident or flood car will be rated R


QUOTE(danielisme @ May 12 2020, 03:07 PM)
I saw Naza cars before touch up .
my brother one alphard still with original stock tyre. same manufacture year as the vehicle
mine one rear one are stock tyre and front are new.
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if still in original stock tyre meaning the mileage is low
because after a certain mileage, the tyres will need to be change already...impossible to still be the stock tyre
also check the year of the tyre

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post May 12 2020, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 12 2020, 08:06 PM)
yes it will
in the auction grade.. this will be rated R in the auction sheet
minor or major accident or flood car will be rated R
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That auction sheet for the repaired car (from both scrut and Carvx) did not contain R laugh.gif
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post May 14 2020, 05:02 PM

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yes, stock tyre year same as car manufacturer year..
condition about 60% ( 3 years ). my borther car the stock tyres front and rear left around 25% ( 5 years )
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post May 16 2020, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 12 2020, 10:25 PM)
That auction sheet for the repaired car (from both scrut and Carvx) did not contain R laugh.gif
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How did you get the Picture of damaged car? Not fron carvx?
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post May 16 2020, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(Meepomop @ May 16 2020, 12:57 AM)
How did you get the Picture of damaged car? Not fron carvx?
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From Carvx

What my post meant is that within the auction sheet, it did not contain information of the accident.

Carvx however does not only rely on auction sheet
They have access to Japanese land transportation database ( https://www.mlit.go.jp/en/) , and their insurance database on claims
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post May 16 2020, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Meepomop @ May 11 2020, 10:00 PM)
I agree with this one,

The report from scrut is only report from the auction and we cant just assume that the guys at japan will not tamper/repair before putting it on auction . nothing personal just business. the report is incomplete. bought report but wasn't from scrut. a bit suspicious for a 4 year old car to only have 15k mileage.
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actually there are many many cars in japan 4-5 years can be under 20k km mileage. just that it's more expensive to buy, so not many malaysian dealers will bring in. price cannot compete with market price. i've brought in a 2015 alphard 2 years back with 12k mileage for my customer. we were sourcing for a NX200t 5 year old car, many with 20k+- mileage
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post Nov 4 2020, 07:46 AM

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i have seen but rare. maybe 1 or 2 that also like few years back. maybe now all in the system.

they do have stickers of last done service sometimes on driver side dashboard blocked when u closed the door. that one maybe 6 to 7 cars out of 10 got
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post Nov 4 2020, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ May 7 2020, 10:49 AM)
Only in Malaysia, tampering an odometer is not unlawful. In fact there is no law.
Try that in the UK or US, the dealer will be in a hot soup.
Agreed. Only in Malaysia, you have
1. free walking ex-ministers who have no shame even though cases are piling against them.
2. cibai pricing for housing due to songlap-cartel of "relevant" people in the authorities.
3. tai-chi agencies -> in the end, raykat suffers (see Selangor got 50k potholes - tf is local councils getting City status but roads like Sabah)

Sekian, aku tumpang rant.
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post Nov 4 2020, 07:54 PM

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Any car brand and model, the mileage can be altered. It's like an OBD device but much higher spec and able to change the mileage to any figure you want.

120,000km can easily change to 45,000 in less than 15 mins
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post Nov 4 2020, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(director rapid @ Nov 3 2020, 09:22 PM)
one question, why cars in japan dont come with service booklet which will clearly show the service interval stamps and thus the mileage?
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All in their national system

It isn't needed
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post Nov 4 2020, 09:20 PM

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+1 for Carvx. The info given is comprehensive.

Either way, auction sheet alone is not that bad also. My recon car had accident on passenger side, fixed in japan, and now looks like new. I cant even tell got any evidence of accident. Paint matched perfectly to my eye. But japanese mechanic i hired to inspect the car can tell the car got accident previously based on the paint quality (which i personally think looks absolutely fine). End up buy carvx, auction sheet also contain info that there is evidence of accident. They really have keen eye for the minor things.
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post Nov 6 2020, 09:08 AM

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Recond dealers got new tactic now. Many tell you they have Japan inspection sheet. Can show you somemore. But actually it's Photoshop lol.

If you check with Scrut.my or Recond.my, the info is lari, but dealer will insist theirs correct, others info not updated. See who you wana believe la.
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post Nov 6 2020, 01:04 PM

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Recently a friend imported a used Porsche from the UK. Car mileage says 5k km, a check online shows last record 40000km lol...
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