Am looking for recon car and saw few interesting Low mileage. Some said agent can change the mileage. Anyone can share experience how can we verify and other issue we need to look at when buying recon

Yes. No matter if it's a recon car or a local used car, 99.9% the odometer was tempered.

Since mileage will not be able to tell how far the engine has go, you will need to resort using other methods to check the car and engine condition.

Only in Malaysia, tampering an odometer is not unlawful. In fact there is no law.
Try that in the UK or US, the dealer will be in a hot soup.

How to avoid all these nonsense recond? Avoid reconds, if u can. Yeah I know its tempting to buy one with cheaper price, but that's the price to pay for recond without any service history.

Apparently for recond Jap, can check the original mileage , can't remember which website. And there is a service to verify.
Need another sifu to advice on that.

scrut and many others. just google.

Wapcar recently did an article titled "A recond Toyota Alphard/Vellfire is nearly RM 44k cheaper than UMW Toyota's official import, should you buy the recond?"

There's a section discussing about tempered mileages

This post has been edited by dylan_chng: May 7 2020, 10:54 AM

it's illegal everywhere but even UK does it. we brought a BMW M5 in from UK for our customer and the mileage was tampered. luckily we are really close to the customer and the customer saw exactly when the pics arrived showing the mileage. so anything tampered was in UK. we had to take the M5 off him, sell it off cheap and bring in another one for him.

You would be surprised that it happens in US as well.

U want a bit real low mileage one, but condition is no good

or

a bit real high mileage one but good condition

Choose ur poison.

New car also got. Some car dealers even use test drive units to sell as new. In malaysia, everything also can kautim. The best is get an experience mechanic to inspect the car. Usually with their vast experience in servicing different car they can estimate the car age or mileage base on the engine condition, chassis, lower arm & suspension cosmetic and feel. That's why it is important to jack up the car to inspect below condition, usual car dealer just do outside cosmetic job only.

I read it, the whole thing was an advertisement

I support this statement. And assume 99.9% used cars / recon cars sellers are crooks. It's important to have the correct mindset before buying one, if not you'll be disappointed after your purchase

Saw a lot of private sellers their cars are of low mileage. Not sure how genuine are they.

Which seller wants to kill own sales by advert with real mileage where 99% other seller all low mileage? Majority buyers are not well informed enough for sellers to change this practise.

Don't buy imported recon if u afraid.

It may be a little biased towards UMW but the article does mention some useful information like



This post has been edited by dylan_chng: May 7 2020, 02:21 PM

use services such as scrut
get the auction sheet for the car u wanna buy
on the auction sheet, there will mention the true mileage of the car

One must remember that even a recon is still a used car, which will have wear and tear parts, and high chances of having their mileage tempered. Services like Scrut helps a lot but 1 must still have it checked by someone familiar with the vehicle like a trusted mechanic.

By the way some 'new' cars sold by official distributors also do not always reflect the actual mileage. I've test driven at least 3 unregistered 'test-cars' that had their odometer disconnected during the drive.

This post has been edited by Deja Vu: May 7 2020, 04:23 PM

http://autopatrul.ru/report+
https://carvx.jp/

Do you think the meter won't be tempered before enter to the car auction? Quite suspicious even the report out from Scrut.

don't think so...and they wouldn't have any reason to do it as well
why?...because for the japanese....they're selling it as "used car"
malaysian buy those "used car" from japan and send it here and resell it as "recond car"
the auction sheet is graded by someone certified by the auction house...not filled in by the owner itself
not to mention, the body's condition will ultimately reflect if the mileage is real or not...u simply cannot have a 2000KM mileage with a body that is scratched up....the grading is not only via mileage only

why do u say the report from scrut look suspicious?

Report from Scrut, whille we cannot proof that is it accurate, we can quite sure it is the real mileage. Japanese do not do these kind of things. Even if they did tamper the mileage (by the owner before selling to used car), use that report as a reference.

It is more important to look at the condition of the car, especially the engine and bring someone expert.

Personally, I will not buy from them. The used car industry in Malaysia are full of unscrupulous dealers using whatever tactics to give them maximum profit. By not supporting them, they will need to come clean with their tactics or they will employ even worse tactics. I know they need to make profit but not at the expense of the buyers and maxing out the margin. Sometimes can't really blame them 100% as there are a lot of buyers who have the wrong set of expectations.

Anyway, good luck in finding your car.