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TSjaycee1
post May 6 2020, 03:08 PM, updated 6y ago

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As topic, I am looking for a recommendation for a NAS with cloud services for my SME business. Primary use for backup and file server.

Features needed

1) RAID 1 (2 drive setup)
2) Cloud services/Access (APP for Mobile/Handphone)
3) Backup / Auto backup
4) about 20 logins/users but not heavy use, maybe 3-4 concurrent logins or transfers at any one time.

FTP would be nice but not necessary nowadays.



Synology
Dlink
QNAP

Any recommendation? Pros and Con for each brand/model? Budget about 2k with twin 1TB HDD.


Thanks

This post has been edited by jaycee1: May 6 2020, 07:47 PM
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post May 6 2020, 03:19 PM

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post May 6 2020, 03:27 PM

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Im using Asustor 2 HDD.

Going to cloud via Asus services to access my NAS from outside. So far so good. Easy and seamless. Once configured you will get a link. Copy this link to anywhere or anyone.

They click, you will need to enter username and password. Quite good.
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post May 6 2020, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ May 6 2020, 03:27 PM)
Im using Asustor 2 HDD.

Going to cloud via Asus services to access my NAS from outside. So far so good. Easy and seamless. Once configured you will get a link. Copy this link to anywhere or anyone.

They click, you will need to enter username and password. Quite good.
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Thanks. How about support? What model and how much did it cost?


I think Dlink Dieded already. Website no longer list thier NAS. Had 2 dlink DNS 323 both suffered board failure. Lucky data recoverable.

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post May 6 2020, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 6 2020, 03:34 PM)
Thanks. How about support? What model and how much did it cost?
I think Dlink Dieded already. Website no longer list thier NAS. Had 2 dlink DNS 323 both suffered board failure. Lucky data recoverable.
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Im using Asustor 1002T.

So far havent required support call. Their updates and all are quite prompt.

If you wanna be safe, go for Synology or Qnap. Furthermore you want 20 user connections so consider upgrading RAM. Asustor that I have cant upgrade ram. So you looking at enterprise NAS liao.
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post May 6 2020, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ May 6 2020, 03:43 PM)
Im using Asustor 1002T.

So far havent required support call. Their updates and all are quite prompt.

If you wanna be safe, go for Synology or Qnap. Furthermore you want 20 user connections so consider upgrading RAM. Asustor that I have cant upgrade ram. So you looking at enterprise NAS liao.
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Thanks.

I shortlisted the AS4002T. With 2x 2TB 7200rpm drives. + 1x16 port gigabit switch and 1 x 2TB external hard drive for off site backup of the NAS.

Comes up just over 1900. Within target budget.

20 user is max. Concurrent login maybe not more than 5. Used mostly for backup.

Let's see if any 2nd opinions.
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post May 6 2020, 06:04 PM

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you can survey the synology as their backup solution quite wise and easy to setup . I'm one happy user of it .

https://www.synology.com/en-global/solution/ransomware

https://download.synology.com/download/www-...e_en-global.pdf
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post May 6 2020, 06:57 PM

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post May 6 2020, 07:04 PM

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Synology


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post May 6 2020, 07:27 PM

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Synology..
TSjaycee1
post May 6 2020, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ May 6 2020, 07:04 PM)
Synology
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 6 2020, 07:27 PM)
Synology..
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Why? What model do you use?

Features? Price? Reliability? Support?

Im entertaining options. So all feedback is helpful.
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post May 6 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 6 2020, 07:31 PM)
Why? What model do you use?

Features? Price? Reliability? Support?

Im entertaining options. So all feedback is helpful.
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I use for personal use only.. 2 bay nas, cant remember the model. Already use 2 year.

I use it as a cloud.. so anything updated on my pc, will auto update in the nas.

Only think I feel to retrieve files from mobile is a bit slow.. not sure if I configure it correctly or not.
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post May 6 2020, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ May 6 2020, 06:57 PM)
Pc with xpenology
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Thanks

Yeah, I would do that if I still have time to muck around. Used to muck with freeNAS to go with entire enterprise setup.
(used to dump scheduled backups and temp storage for test virtual machines)

Looking for something plug and play so someone else can maintain it

To be honest I have been out of IT for more than a decade. Used to be a sysadmin for a listed company group. Just polling for consumer/SME grade stuff that is plug and play for small operation.

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post May 6 2020, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 6 2020, 07:33 PM)
I use for personal use only.. 2 bay nas, cant remember the model. Already use 2 year.

I use it as a cloud.. so anything updated on my pc, will auto update in the nas.

Only think I feel to retrieve files from mobile is a bit slow.. not sure if I configure it correctly or not.
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Maybe Internet speeds are slow?

My digi mobile only up streams at 7-10mbs. So not expecting much performance off site. Bottle neck connection. No DSL or broadband at my location.
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post May 6 2020, 09:17 PM

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synology
is good
The user interface is easy to use
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post May 6 2020, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 6 2020, 07:31 PM)
Why? What model do you use?

Features? Price? Reliability? Support?

Im entertaining options. So all feedback is helpful.
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I use 2 bay model as well. Ds218+ in office. Price range below rm2k without hdd. Now i think got new ones DS220+. Im guessing its below rm2k either. Basically it can do whatever u mentioned above. U can check the website for more features, price etc.

Support is very good. Fast response.

For reliability, im still using DS213 in my house for personal backup, been using it for more than 5 years. In terms of reliability u can count on it.

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 6 2020, 07:44 PM)
Maybe Internet speeds are slow?

My digi mobile only up streams at 7-10mbs. So not expecting much performance off site. Bottle neck connection. No DSL or broadband at my location.
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ya... I think mobile data is around that kinda speed...
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post May 7 2020, 01:22 AM

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You might want to look at DIY NAS running on FreeNAS with the following benefits:

1) Recycle and repurpose your old hardware
2) ZFS is a business class storage system
3) Can use it to host your personal cloud system such as Owncloud or Nextcloud
4) RAIDZ is better than conventional RAID. You do not need any RAID hardware card to run, just let FreeNAS OS manage your zpools. During any hardware failure, just replace the parts like a normal computer.
5) OS is free of charge
6) Has all the function compared to OTS NAS, and more
7) You get to choose the hardware specs and tune the NAS to your liking
8) Mature NAS OS system with regular updates and patches
9) Nice interface and dashboard
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post May 7 2020, 03:03 AM

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I'm on an asustor as20something TE. It works but I think its a low end model so opening files is kinda slow. But its been running 3 or 4 years np. So there's that.
So I've been researching for an upgrade. And will probably get a Synology. Between Synology and qnap, Synology has better software, qnap has better hardware.

Suggest you go for a ds920+ (just announced). Has all the specs and support for everything up to VM. So will be overkill specs for filesharing. I dunno, I need to make sure I dun get anything slow or laggy. Use 2bay first and add hdd later when you need. Synology hybrid raid will allow adding hdd of different sizes in the future.
Cheaper option is ds420+ with the same software and shr but no esata extendability (+5bays) that the 920+ has. Also a good option. But the present 418 and 918 pricing not very far.
Dunno much about qnap. Stopped looking after the reviewer said Synology is the Apple of NAS. I just want something I set up once and it just works.
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post May 7 2020, 09:03 AM

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Thanks to all for the responses.

Just wondering what filesystem are these running?

On my previous Dllink DNS 323, it ran a simple exFAT so when the unit died, I could retrieve all the data from the drives easily. It was a matter of running the exFAT utility and copying all the files out.

Im assuming if you don't run any encryption on it.

So far looks like users like Synology, but from my own research so far, Asustor seems to have the best specs for the money... At least on paper.


So do I go with the cheaper box, and spend more on better drives like the Seagate ironwolf drives or better box with cheaper Seagate barracudas.

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