I dont think the HT is the main selling point for phenom. From the table, it looks like X2 have higher HT bandwidth than X4 LOL

Even if HTT doesn't help, floating point performance on the Phenoms are going to be err... phenomenal?

Integer I don't know but engineers hint to parring C2D on integer @ same clock speed.

Do take account why the HT3 is developed at the first place..true its to take advantage of the multiprocessing power of the new Phenom architecture but also to give hardware vendors and manufacturers the access to create expansion card and also accelerators card that could tie in directly into the cpu itself. For e.g the AGEIA PhysX card which utilises bidrectional communication from Gpu and CPu before frame is rendered. Unlike game console the bottleneck for PC's are between the CPU and GPU. The Phenom is clearly engineered to take advantage of the SMP/multiprocessing server market other additional features are also tailored of future gaming GPU architecture cards too..

All will be revealed in coming weeks about perfomance and numbers as Phenom launches..

As for me im only interested in price.

This post has been edited by intune: Jul 28 2007, 11:05 PM

Are you talking about HTX? Is it the same as HT3? I do sincerely hope that this technology can be used for expansion/accelerators/physx card (in terms of gaming/daily usage).

Anyway, here's some other links to clarify on HT3/HTX connectivity:
http://news.soft32.com/hypertransport-30-r...ublic_1324.html
http://www.hypertransport.org/tech/tech_htthree.cfm?m=3
http://www.hypertransport.org/tech/tech_htx_main.cfm?m=9

Note the quote for the first link :"The new HTT 3.0 will be excelent for computers with more then 2 processors, because for 2 processors the available HTT 2.0 it's enough. HT3 makes sense for socket F because the HT link IS a bottle neck in 4-way+ servers."

This post has been edited by kmarc: Jul 28 2007, 11:20 PM

To top on to what kmarc said, that also explains why Barcelona (Not Agena, the consumer Phenom) has 3 HTT links and is currently clocked lower (big guess that it's on HTT speeds!)

And with HT3 AMD might want/IMHO should get into 16 socketed servers.
The only other CPUs in this segment suck (Pentium 4 Xeons lolol)


On HTX I'm not so sure, current boards do not have any of that and peripherals are developed exclusively to popular industry standards. PhysX can already run on PCI and to use HTX implementation would have to be more complex (you'd have to redo quite a lot on the chip)

Yep the HTX (Hypertransport Connection) here will be the device (Physx card) connecting and taking advantage of the HT3 on the Phenom Chip.

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Added on July 28, 2007, 11:38 pmAggreed. Revamp of current mobo architecture in whole.. but I always heard AMD mentioning how good the scalability of the Barcelona -Phenom going to be. So a revamp will not be impossible in near future.

Tho..Sounds more like Microsoft's claim bout vista..

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Added on July 31, 2007, 3:21 pmIF things goes well will see Phenom launch in August!.. I need to some some benchmarks and price!

This post has been edited by intune: Jul 31 2007, 03:21 PM

haha.. u do think ms vista suck didnt you? really, stop praying such..
i m praying the phenom is a success with cheap price...

PHENOM...wanna grab some when it comes outt,,, check it out later

Nice one. Wonder if can overclock insanely or not.
If can, then really nice one.

Welcome back, AMD

-pWs-

Just now see preliminary K10 @ 2GHz SuperPi score @ coolaler.com, 39s++. Very awful. Even 1.8GHz allendale can do 32s.

can it really trash penryn later on?
i think it can...amd fanboy here
but let's just see and wait
i really hate what AMD is doing now...
with the ga-ga brisbane core which is not performing up to its expectation...hmm....

is it going to be called AM3 or what??

aiyoo.. y keep popping up topics saying that the new amd procs slower than current procs???

Check the updates on first post!

nice one but u better be right bcoz intel gonna have price slash on october i think.
~waiting for the price slash or wait for phenom... sighhh~

what u mean me..? Its reported ler.. Sept 10.

Anyways bought my Q6600 oredi.. so bye bye Phenom..

nvm ,next year change again ..

5 more days to go
amd is making drastic changes this year...so many new model

I see that little care lol.

The same apathy applies to me.

Increase the bandwidth for inter-processor(package) communication. Besides this, HTT 3.0 have greater MP capability in server market. In desktop or mobile we don't really care actually.
Anyway, Intel's QPI figure is even greater than this.

Holy cowabunga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 30000 3DM06. Makes all our rigs feel like 10 year old dinosaurs oredi.