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post Jan 17 2025, 10:38 AM

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I've been reading many TS recommending to use Wise card for overseas trip. Just curious is the rate really that competitive? Not comparing to credit card, usually I go for the old fashioned way of exchange foreign currency notes prior my oversea trip. Just curious if this is as good as bringing cash then I don't have to bring so much cash or go to exchange the notes before flying.
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post Jan 17 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 17 2025, 10:42 AM)
starry-starry can always compare the rates online. foreven if wise is expensive, might still be better than having leftover cash after your trip. bcos if you don't intend to go to that country again, you have to go midvalley to change back to ringgit
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Thanks for sharing the links, very helpful!

I couldn't seem to find TWD in Wise, is it unavailable since it is not listed?

ps: okay, did a quick search and many already mentioned NTD is not in the list but somehow able to use wise, need to read more first... For those who have travelled to Taiwan, would you recommend to use Wise or bring cash better? sweat.gif Guess probably ask in Taiwan trip thread better? tongue.gif

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post Jan 20 2025, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 17 2025, 10:58 AM)
u can spend TWD in wise, but you cannot hold TWD cash balance in wise. that page is to show what currencies u can hold as immediate cash in your wise acct

i also can recommend you GX bank debit card, there's 1% rebate for international purchases
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 17 2025, 11:24 AM)
Yes. Rates are comparable plus cash back. Best to bring both because for some unknown reason, it can stop working suddenly and then work again.
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Honestly, I don't have both cards...That's the reason why I'd like to explore which is better and more convenient.

So i guess if I apply for these 2 cards, I don't have to bring my CC anymore right? Hmm... which one is actually better? GX debit card works the same as Wise cars too?

QUOTE(Takudan @ Jan 18 2025, 01:20 AM)
Competitive? Not always. There were times cash exchange at certain shops win Wise rates. I guess it's more of an easy win if compared to local credit cards, which charge like 2%(?) for every overseas transaction, on top of shitty exchange rate, so there I'd say Wise is a decent replacement.

Old fashioned way is always a good alternative because cash is king:
- some places may not support digital/card payment
- you may not have (stable) internet access
- you may lose access to your account (connection/theft, touch wood)
But of course, too much cash on hand also induces anxiety so best is to diversify and put your money in several "pockets".

Never been to Taiwan yet but I make it my personal rule of thumb to have both when travelling to any country, and try not to have too much cash. As Medufsaid tongue.gif , excess in Wise is easily convertible/transferrable for reuse, but cash would mean going back to the shop.
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Alright, that was what I thought too but somehow get used to cashless, wish to bring lesser cash during oversea travel..

QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 18 2025, 09:24 AM)
Like others has suggested. For overseas, bring both Wise and GX, Generally speaking, both beat normal credit cards hands down.

I do bring cash but minimal amount as backup, just in case. Normally USD because is the most convenient anywhere around the world. It is amazing how widely accepted are USD in South America.
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QUOTE(plantcloner @ Jan 18 2025, 01:58 PM)
If you have apple pay or google pay working (NFC phone needed, I think), you can add Wise debit card to them. I did just that in Nov 2024 in TW and had no issue paying wherever that ApplePay/Google Pay was accepted.
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So was it worth it spending via Wise card? Since we can't hold NTD in Wise, how does the conversion work? I don't even have this wise card yet, hope my question doesn't sound too dumb.


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post Jan 24 2025, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 23 2025, 10:52 AM)
GX is a Debit Card. Wise is a Credit Card. Both works fine paying for stuff oversea. Rates are both quite similar. But GX has 1% cash back so that is my 1st choice.

Wise will auto-convert which ever account having money and offering better foreign currency rate.

GX still offer about 2% daily interest on your balance.
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Sounds like I need to explore these 2 cards, may be consider them for other overseas trip instead of Taiwan's.

QUOTE(cms @ Jan 24 2025, 03:52 PM)
Wanna share my recent exp at Shanghai. Entire trip used Alipay linked with Wise card. Everything was smooth and I was so surprised being totally cashless.
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Wow sounds so convinient! thumbsup.gif

Just curious did you compare the rate paying via Alipay linked to Wise card vs exchanging $$$ locally?

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post Jan 27 2025, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 25 2025, 07:17 AM)
It cost RM 10 to get a physical WISE card. And I normally keep it in my draw unused. But when going overseas, I put money into it for use overseas.

There is another use. Supposedly I want to to to Japan in June but the Japanese Yen is super cheap now in Jan. And I fear that by June the Japanese Yen will go up. So what I can do is, I can put my money in WISE in Jan, convert it right away to Yen for use in June.

If you don't want to pay the RM10 then there is another way to use it. You can keep it in your Google Wallet and use wave on overseas terminals. 

Recently my digital WISE got hacked somewhere in some part of the world, made a complain on their apps and money back into my account exactly an hour later. That is comforting.
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Some additional info as someone like who doesn't own a Wise card yet. Just to clarify, I can just top up some MYR in wise card and then use when I am in Taiwan? And without have to worry much about the rate as I've been reading the exchange rate is good/competitive?
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post Feb 3 2025, 04:49 PM

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"International ATM withdrawals - 2 withdrawals to the value of 1,000 MYR/month free; 1.75% + 5 MYR after that"

If I want to withdraw cash in Taiwan, how does this work? Let's say I don't want to incur any additional fee or whatsoever.

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post Feb 6 2025, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(kilazilla @ Feb 4 2025, 11:08 AM)
So just withdraw around 7200-7300 NTD one time per month. or 3600 x2 in a month. after that get charged extra fees. withdraw in the ATMs (mostly Cathay United bank, green yellow color ATM) inside MRT will be the safest not to get extra charge. ATMs inside 7-11 have extra charges. When ask to whether to convert or delay the conversion, choose delay the conversion inside the ATM menu. Other option, use GX. But I had a few times not able to withdraw esp on the weekend or around their maintenance time.
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Alright, guess I will just stick to around TWD7000.

I just got this Wise card as recommended by others since it seems pretty useful for oversea usage. I'm considering to get GX card too, so I guess stick to Cathay United Bank and there will be no extra fee charged for cash withdrawal? Any limit for cash withdrawal limit like Wise using GX card?

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post Feb 12 2025, 01:26 AM

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Can any sifu advise me regarding this? Is my calculation correct? Coz I realized it seems better than I change $$$ at money changer locally than withdrawing or using wise card using their conversion rate?

Let's say I wanna buy TWD1000 at money changer, I have to pay RM133.95 (we sell at 13.395).

And if I use Wise card to make TWD1000 or withdraw TWD1000 cash from ATM, then after conversion it actually cost me RM136.02?

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post Feb 12 2025, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(plantcloner @ Feb 12 2025, 11:31 AM)
Money changers are difficult to find in Taiwan (away from the airport). And if you take out cash using Wise card from the ATM, you will have to factor in the cost of transaction (from the local bank), the conversion from from Wise is not that high.
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No, I don't mean to exchange money in Taiwan but locally. I was told that the rate is better via Wise or GX but somehow I realized it seems I could save more if I exchange TWD here. I just wonder if my calculation or understanding is correct...
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post Feb 12 2025, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(laymank @ Feb 12 2025, 01:16 PM)
When you go to money changer, you are to pay the rate what they 'sell'.

This is the rate at 2025-02-12 10:56 AM taken from https://www.exchangerate.my/maxmoney/midvalley-megamall:

13.3750

so you will be paying RM133.75 for every TWD1,000.00

If Wise rate is higher than RM133.75 for the same time, then money changer is a better choice.

Edit:

However, I noticed the mid market rate is actually higher than 13.3750
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/conver...From=TWD&To=MYR

so there is a chance, the rate may be revised at the money changer any time.
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Thanks for the confirmation, cuz I do notice the rate is better at the money changer these 2 days. For exchanging money at money changer, I am more familiar with. What I would like to find out is for Wise, if I withdrawal cash from ATM in Taiwan or use my Wise card to make payment in Taiwan, the conversion rate in Wise should be from TWD to MYR right?

The reason I posted this cuz I remember everyone is saying Wise/GX is a better option so I quickly ordered both cards so now wondering if I should just stick to old fashioned way since I don't mind exchanging money first locally, as long as I could save some bucks tongue.gif

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post Feb 12 2025, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 12 2025, 03:13 PM)
starry-starry we still recommend cards as mentioned before
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haha.. alright, I just wanted to confirm my comparison is correct. I will monitor for few more days... If it's still cheaper to exchange locally, I will exchange more first here and bring Wise/GX cards as back-up only.
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post Feb 13 2025, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(laymank @ Feb 13 2025, 08:39 AM)
It's always good to have both, just in case.
Like what the other members has suggested, unless you are planning to go back Taiwan again, the small change like coins are not acceptable at money changers. So there is a chance that you save RM2 for using money changer but losing it at the coins you bring back (Taiwan currency has coins of amount 1, 5, 10, 50, which is equivalent to approx. RM0.13, RM0.68, RM1.37, RM6.80 respectively).

If you are traveling with a group, suggest to pool cash to pay, reduce chances of accumulating coins individually.

Personally, I would prefer least cash possible and use card for most expenses wherever possible.
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There are some eatery places I plan to visit only accept cash, which is why I am making the comparison of cash withdrawal conversion rate vs local money changer. Those which accept card, I will surely use GX card for the 1% cashback (I know this is a Wise forum sweat.gif )

QUOTE(kilazilla @ Feb 13 2025, 09:31 AM)
one more tip for taiwan. if got too many coins lying around and you have the easycard, you can reload the easycard in the mrt stations.  and when you are at the airport flying back, use the easycard to pay for some stuff in airport to buy souvenirs, drinks etc.
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This is a good suggestion to reload the coins into the Easycard! Do I have to approach the counter or this can be done at the machine itself?
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post Feb 26 2025, 08:54 AM

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Is there any reason why the balance shown in ATM balance inquiry lesser than the actual amount we hold in our Wise account? Is it because of different currency or smt? Let's just say I don't hold any other currency at all, just MYR. And when I want to perform cash withdrawal overseas, I can just refer to the amount shown in my wise card right?

 

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