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Final Fantasy XII on PS3, region lock jap only?
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TSdexth
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Jul 28 2007, 09:05 AM, updated 19y ago
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Hi, I wud like to get the ps3 and play FF XII, but was told will only be able to play the original japanese version since ps2 games will still be region lock. Locally, the ps3 are asian sets, so does that mean only japanese ffxiii on it? Does the jap version has eng sub? Thanks.
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rx330
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Jul 28 2007, 09:19 AM
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tok in english but it hink the rest in jap tats the version for the simi zodiac one
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alexwlh
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Jul 28 2007, 09:29 AM
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You can go check new Coming release FFXII International Zodiac System..
Maybe it have selection on eng/jap
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rx330
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Jul 28 2007, 09:32 AM
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alex, boh tok in eng, play in jap
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alexwlh
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Jul 28 2007, 11:41 AM
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Previous FF International all got selection lehhh i think this 1 should have ba
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rx330
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Jul 28 2007, 11:44 AM
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i also hope so too....
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acougan
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Jul 28 2007, 02:50 PM
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fxii international will have jpn text, but not that impossible to play. gamefaqs have translations for menus, items, license grids and whatnot. and playing ffxii in 16:9 upscaled to 720p is so fantastic.
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rx330
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Jul 28 2007, 04:33 PM
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urs the zodiac one ar? nice? can post some pics after upscaled?
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shinjite
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Jul 28 2007, 05:05 PM
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if TS don't like to play FFXII with Jap texts, best to get the US version of the PS3 or wouldn't mind spending a lil bit more on a PS2
This post has been edited by shinjite: Jul 28 2007, 05:06 PM
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acougan
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Jul 28 2007, 06:36 PM
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yes, if u like ps2 games alot, a good investment is to buy a USA PS3 and go ebay to shop for ps2 games. 1.90 really makes ps2 games look good in 480p/720p. rx330, i dont have camera or good photo-taking skills. but playing NTSC/J ffxii the (2006 version not the zodiac job version), i can really appreciate the game visuals more in 480p/720p. the 2006 version is 4:3 only though so i'm getting basically 960*720 with black bars on left & right. currently using same benq monitor recommended by alexwlh  Added on there are some picts at neogaf and at the official ps forums http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158224  This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 28 2007, 07:03 PM
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alexwlh
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Jul 28 2007, 07:02 PM
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FFXII ENG 16:9 leh more good
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Azureknight94
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Jul 28 2007, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jul 28 2007, 06:36 PM) yes, if u like ps2 games alot, a good investment is to buy a USA PS3 and go ebay to shop for ps2 games. 1.90 really makes ps2 games look good in 480p/720p. rx330, i dont have camera or good photo-taking skills. but playing NTSC/J ffxii the (2006 version not the zodiac job version), i can really appreciate the game visuals more in 480p/720p. the 2006 version is 4:3 only though so i'm getting basically 960*720 with black bars on left & right. currently using same benq monitor recommended by alexwlh  Added on there are some picts at neogaf and at the official ps forums http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158224   lol third pic ur hp so much ur mp so lil
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shinjite
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Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM
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well HP high with MP low is common, use Bubble (double the HP points)  I need to use that against some tough Mob Hunts This post has been edited by shinjite: Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM
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bluffy83
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Jul 28 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM) well HP high with MP low is common, use Bubble (double the HP points)  I need to use that against some tough Mob Hunts damn... i stuck at Trister... stupid white chocobo...
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shinjite
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Jul 28 2007, 09:18 PM
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Oh for trickster, I whack it until it left around 1/3 of his life then use your quickening to kill it off
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Nemesis181188
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Jul 28 2007, 11:12 PM
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does this international version have any extra super bosses or anything?If there is it would be nice.Anyway hopefully there is a choice for us to select english.
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TSdexth
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Jul 29 2007, 03:19 PM
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Hi, thanks for all the replies. Went to a shop today and was told ntsc U/C will work on asian set ps3, is that true? I doubt it since NTSC U/C is for US/Canada if I am not mistaken...but the guy sounds very confident it will work and guaranteed it. thought?
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adliew
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Jul 29 2007, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(dexth @ Jul 29 2007, 03:19 PM) Hi, thanks for all the replies. Went to a shop today and was told ntsc U/C will work on asian set ps3, is that true? I doubt it since NTSC U/C is for US/Canada if I am not mistaken...but the guy sounds very confident it will work and guaranteed it. thought? Nope it doesn't work. I have the ntsc u/c ff xii original & it doesn't run on asian ps3 - "This disc cannot be started due to region restrictions". (kinda regret selling the old ps2  ) - Pre-ordered the FF XII International Zodiac Job System (Asia) , due out Aug 7th. Not sure if it has english menu support, though.
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SUSticke
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Jul 29 2007, 04:05 PM
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...out on 9 leh~
This post has been edited by ticke: Jul 29 2007, 04:06 PM
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adliew
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Jul 29 2007, 07:09 PM
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The one scheduled on the 9th is the JP version according to Play-Asia. I pre-ordered the Asian version which is on the 7th. Dunno if there's any difference but it's cheaper
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SUSticke
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Jul 29 2007, 07:31 PM
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ok...let us know if can select eng...might wanna get a copy if so
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 08:37 PM
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i just tried the FFXII US version (Non Zodiac) on my PS3...the graphics is actually quite good oledi....
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rx330
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Jul 29 2007, 10:28 PM
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ur PS3 is UC one ar?
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 29 2007, 10:28 PM) yup....
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rx330
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Jul 29 2007, 10:36 PM
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sigh..... too bad mine region 3.... anybody tested GT4? upscaling nice?
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 10:42 PM
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u can actually c the diff between FFXII on PS2 and PS3...quite noticeable...
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rx330
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Jul 29 2007, 11:09 PM
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tat obvious? whow... but i think mine no differnece though, still running on 576p, maybe smoother a bit?
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 29 2007, 11:09 PM) tat obvious? whow... but i think mine no differnece though, still running on 576p, maybe smoother a bit? less jaggies i would say.... the same goes for DQ8...i was just testing on my PS2 and PS3...either my mind n my eyes r playing tricks on me or DQ8 on PS3 is really really good.....
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acougan
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Jul 29 2007, 11:33 PM
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DQ8 & radiata stories on ps3 looks like blue dragon 0.8  the jaggies and shimmering are still present (minimized) but a much cleaner image than ps2 original output. its really good  thinking of buying VP next, its also a 16:9 game This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 29 2007, 11:34 PM
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jul 29 2007, 11:33 PM) DQ8 & radiata stories on ps3 looks like blue dragon 0.8  the jaggies and shimmering are still present (minimized) but a much cleaner image than ps2 original output. its really good  thinking of buying VP next, its also a 16:9 game VP silmeria? i got...  ..maybe will try later.....
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acougan
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Jul 29 2007, 11:39 PM
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the scary part is the playstation engineers are still working on and improving ps2 BC. imagine a future update that makes all ps2 games squeaky clean with FSAA! just buying or rebuying ps2 games alone will fill-up many great games playable on ps3 This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 29 2007, 11:40 PM
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jul 29 2007, 11:39 PM) the scary part is the playstation engineers are still working on and improving ps2 BC. imagine a future update that makes all ps2 games squeaky clean with FSAA! just buying or rebuying ps2 games alone will fill-up many great games playable on ps3   wat about odin sphere / grim grimoire / okami ??got 16:9 ?? wish they would come up an update to unlock the Ps2 games region....i wan to test my ICO and Shadow of the Colossus....(both in PAL)
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acougan
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Jul 29 2007, 11:48 PM
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my ICO also PAL. i think yours are the special postcard collectors edition, eh?
ICO, odin sphere / grim grimoire / okami are all 4:3 IINM
shadow of collosus (chinese) looks good. (don't expect any miracles, the jaggies and shimmering still there)
can defeat the region lock on ps2 games. but must make super-duper risky swap switch mod. maybe wait till the mods more stable and tested.
dunno y, but i cannot backup any ps2 saves made on the ps3 to usb drive. weird, eh?
This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 30 2007, 12:16 AM
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andy_lhc
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Jul 29 2007, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jul 29 2007, 11:48 PM) my ICO also PAL. i think yours are the special postcard collectors edition, eh? ICO, odin sphere / grim grimoire / okami are all 4:3 IINM shadow of collosus (chinese) looks good. (don't expect any miracles, the jaggies and shimmering still there) can defeat the region lock on ps2 games. but must make super-duper risky swap switch mod. maybe wait till the mods more stable and tested. dunno y, but i cannot backup any ps2 saves made on the ps3 to usb drive. weird, eh?  clever....my ICO and shadow of the colossus both have postcards... about the save game issues..u tried using the Media Max to copy from ur memory card to ur thumbdrive n from ur thumbdrive to ur PS3?? or u use the PS2 memory card to PS3 adapter thingy??
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acougan
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Jul 30 2007, 12:03 AM
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oops, getting really offtopic liao. my mistake, sorry.
u can backup ps2 games (.psv) format. can convert .psv to .max or .cbs , but to convert back u'll need the USD20 MC adaptor
This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 30 2007, 12:11 AM
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rx330
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Jul 30 2007, 12:09 AM
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MC adaptor only 20rm ar? just now saw the ori one in a gameshop in SG
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TSdexth
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Aug 6 2007, 08:59 PM
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adliew, do let us know when you receive your zodiac job version ya. Anyway, how do you plan to play it if it's jap text?
btw, just curious, for asian (japs aside) countries such as s'pore, korea, etc, isnt there an english text version? U dont expect all asians to read jap do they?
Added on August 8, 2007, 12:26 amI couldnt resist, so placed my order thru playasia and it shipped in an hour after order. Will update once I get the copy (if selectable in eng).
This post has been edited by dexth: Aug 8 2007, 12:26 AM
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Dark NT
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Aug 8 2007, 12:01 PM
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dexth, video games generally sell very well in Japan, but not in other asian countries. so most of the game publishers do not bother to translate the asian version to english and they do not treat the non japan countries as a major market (sad sad). Situation is getting better though, with some PS2/PS3/XBOX360 games being translated to chinese/english for the Asia version. I guess its due to higher video games demand in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. If we look into the past, most games prior to PS2 do not even have Asian version.
By the way, for FF - FF12 (non zodiac) has never had a Asian-english version. FF10 also never had Asian-english version. Both have Asian-Japanese version though. How do the asians read the japanese? we guess lor...
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acougan
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Aug 8 2007, 01:55 PM
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yup, jpn developed videogames are often sold in asian countries in jpn only, kinda like j-pop cds, LoL. actually in south korea, ffxii was released in JPN only with a korean manual.
its pretty common to buy jrpg games in HK with the additional chinese gameguide/translation book. for customers in HK or TWN (the main Asian legal videogames market) a game fully in English is just as unappealing as a game fully in JPN.
but sony themselves are doing some work to translate games into traditional chinese for asian versions. games like ico, SotC, GT4, TT, siren, rule of rose, ape escape 3 have chinese versions.
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TSdexth
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Aug 8 2007, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Aug 8 2007, 01:55 PM) yup, jpn developed videogames are often sold in asian countries in jpn only, kinda like j-pop cds, LoL. actually in south korea, ffxii was released in JPN only with a korean manual. its pretty common to buy jrpg games in HK with the additional chinese gameguide/translation book. for customers in HK or TWN (the main Asian legal videogames market) a game fully in English is just as unappealing as a game fully in JPN. but sony themselves are doing some work to translate games into traditional chinese for asian versions. games like ico, SotC, GT4, TT, siren, rule of rose, ape escape 3 have chinese versions. Thanks for the replies. I wasnt aware since i didnt own ps2 before...i guess this is mainly due to our piracy situation. I couldnt even find any shop in pg selling original ps2 game. i guess sony can always choose to make ps2 games compatible with US region but again it's all about $$$. btw, FF X international (asia/jpn version) is the only FF game to feature full english text, check it out.
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Dark NT
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Aug 8 2007, 11:58 PM
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i am also glad that Sony removed the region lock for PS3 games , and most of the PSP games. now the asian gamers can choose to buy the US version in english.
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adliew
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Aug 9 2007, 01:03 AM
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Received my copy of the zodiac job system today - sadly no english text support although game voice is in english. Gotta look for some translation help at Gamesfaq i guess  Game manual is fully JP but there's an extra sheet w/ chinese & english explanation for the game basics. Title screen:  Having trouble with this lol:  Will give it a go through trial and error i guess, thank god Odin's Sphere for its ENG support (korean version). p/s: Forgive the poor screenshot - crappy ipaq phone lol.
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TSdexth
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Aug 9 2007, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(adliew @ Aug 9 2007, 01:03 AM) Received my copy of the zodiac job system today - sadly no english text support although game voice is in english. Gotta look for some translation help at Gamesfaq i guess  Game manual is fully JP but there's an extra sheet w/ chinese & english explanation for the game basics. Title screen:  Having trouble with this lol:  Will give it a go through trial and error i guess, thank god Odin's Sphere for its ENG support (korean version). p/s: Forgive the poor screenshot - crappy ipaq phone lol. Hi adliew, what is Odin's Sphere?
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samurai20
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Aug 9 2007, 09:01 AM
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arhhh why no english sub... siot la japanese nie.
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rx330
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Aug 9 2007, 09:57 AM
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out of the wishlist u go......
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adliew
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Aug 9 2007, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(dexth @ Aug 9 2007, 07:52 AM) Hi adliew, what is Odin's Sphere? Another kick-ass PS2 rpg game. Just glad the Korean version happened to have full english support. For FFXII, guess i'll try to play it - till SE release another asian version w/ English support
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rx330
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Aug 9 2007, 03:08 PM
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so korean version full english support?
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adliew
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Aug 9 2007, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Aug 9 2007, 03:08 PM) so korean version full english support? Korean Odin's Sphere, yes  English text & voice w/ the option of switching to JP. http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-43-49-...re-70-21bj.html
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rx330
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Aug 9 2007, 08:23 PM
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not FF12 ar?
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adliew
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Aug 9 2007, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Aug 9 2007, 08:23 PM) not FF12 ar?  Not for the moment i'm afaid  hopefully there'll be a version w/ Eng text support before FF XIII arrives on PS3, maybe the Korean version, who knows? Anyway God of War & God of War II will be released (NTSC/J, Asia) this month - one of the PS2 title i've been dying to play on my PS3
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benQue
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Aug 13 2007, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(adliew @ Aug 9 2007, 10:38 PM) Not for the moment i'm afaid  hopefully there'll be a version w/ Eng text support before FF XIII arrives on PS3, maybe the Korean version, who knows? Anyway God of War & God of War II will be released (NTSC/J, Asia) this month - one of the PS2 title i've been dying to play on my PS3  you do know rite u can save time and money by just playing it on ps2... some people really do have shallow sense of pride.
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adliew
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Aug 14 2007, 03:24 AM
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QUOTE(benQue @ Aug 13 2007, 05:18 PM) you do know rite u can save time and money by just playing it on ps2... some people really do have shallow sense of pride.  Well for us FF fans that don't own both ps2 & ps3 consoles, we're pretty much screwed eh?  Either get a US PS3/ PS2 or modded ps2 then? Just looking for ways to play english version ff12 on asian ps3 that's all -  Although fewer nice PS2 titles are being released these days, there are still a few great games that i'd like to experience e.g. God of War 2, Odin's Sphere & FF XII International Zodiac - I think some of us here share something in common: trying to play the last remaining must-have PS2 titles on their respective Asian PS3 set. I believe this thread wouldn't have even existed if TS happens to own both PS2 & PS3 consoles. This post has been edited by adliew: Aug 14 2007, 04:45 AM
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