i need to get something clear about bond, and i dont find this topic around this forum , so i post this here.

How do u buy corp bond in malaysia? as fast as i know financial institutions in malaysia offers bond fund , which is the fund manager pool the money to spread among differnt corp bonds... how if i specifically wanna buy a lets say xxx.bhd bond? how do i do it? thanks for enlightening me.

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Most of the time, it's not offered to the general public.

some bank have sell bond directly to public too.but according to forumer here,the investment cost is not cheap,generally rm200k++ ,except the merdeka bond.

merdeka bond?? what n how to buy that?

Bond is an investment instrument also, but it is very difficult to take care of it when the interest rate fluctuates. Normally, the amount to buy a bond is huge, not a good move.

Bond seldom sold in public. I guess you have to find out why?

yea.. generally they will corp bond will offer to those fund management company as they are very large amount.
hence u can only get it over those mutual fund.

unless you are very rich
ahaha

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Added on July 27, 2007, 11:12 amBank Negara 's bond is different story though

This post has been edited by GSPierre: Jul 27 2007, 11:12 AM

erm , coz i had been reading than americans could buy bonds independently but in malaysia dont think so .. just wondering n learning , lol thanks

if i could buy bond, i would've grabbed singapore genting sentosa bond offered sometime back.

Too bad we do not have a designated market/exchange for bond trading.

the last time they had that i think was two years ago...but open to senior citizens only

maybe this year they'll have one but haven't seen any adverts yet...

This is all done OTC. You will have to approach people holding them directly.

erm care to define OTC?? sry for being noob hehe

if bonds cannot be bought and sold freely in malaysia ... then, how to diversify between equity market and bond market as they negatively correlated?...

Oh.. OTC very simply means Over The Counter. Meaning not traded on the exchange.

Well, someone doing asset management in an insurance company might be able to tell you more about the bond market in Malaysia.

Mm actually there are plans to make Bonds more easily traded through secuirty companies. They are planning to make a system to track bonds just like your stocks electronically. I don't know the details though.

They are not negatively correlated. They are two different things. Normally bond trading involve huge amount of money, so only institutional players can trade the bonds.

that's why UT have various fund like equity fund, bond fund etc lor. Those org that issue the bond are not interested to deal with 'ikan bilis'. That's why got middle man that collect money from 'ikan bilis' called fund manager that manage UT. So if u think u r not ikan bilis, then u can called up the org and deal directly lor.

Actually there are some negative correlation between bonds and stocks. Normally one goes up and another goes down.

There are cases where both going the same direction, like during a deep recession, bonds and stocks both will become worthless.
Another case where both going up is when there are too much liquidity on the market, people have enough money to buy both stocks and bonds causing both to go up together.

Technically
0 = no correlation
-1 = full negative correlation

its at -0.x..... somewhere between 0 and -1.

ejleemy, you're correct. It depends on the market condition.

You are a statistician, based on your previously post. , just joking.

Instituitional Bonds and gov bonds are traded in millions a block so it is not accessible for retailers. But if you are rich enough to buy a few millions then can ringing up the investment house or bankers to do it for you.

bond are like gold,not for wealth increase,but more for wealth protection against inflation,their return is actualy not that attractive compare to share and UT,but it is another save financial tool other than FD.it more to people like uncle Bill,uncle Buff who already earn a lot,dont want to think too much on how to increase the value of money they earn already.

for general people in Malaysia,if want asset protection instead of investment,perhaps guarantee fund,gold ,fd and cash fund are more convienent option.

This post has been edited by athlon 11: Aug 1 2007, 12:21 AM