believe it not? its up to u

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Booooo....

Unfair verdict...they should lost the drivers points too.

Guilty using a cheat machine and get points from it but the user (drivers) of the cheat machine still get to keep it 
I'm speechless.

Pethatic British wishing Hamilton to win the title.

Booooo....

A bit premature but...
HAIL! FERRARI


THE 2007 FORMULA ONE WORLD CONSTRUCTORS CHAMPION

win by cheating ............. mclaren

Regarding the performance though, we couldn't judge who's better and whether it is because of the usage of the stolen documents. Only the key personnel in the teams know it well, right?

that isn't the main point of this debate isn't it? Yes, Ferrari drivers made a ton of mistakes this season but I can say its their effort to keep up with McLaren's "sudden" form of reliability...which the people (non-McLaren fans) are saying that they stole critical information from Ferrari to improve on.

yup...kimi n massa did messed up abit..

but if mclaren didn't got ferrari document, they won't be so fast either, getting all d better qualifying times...

even if massa n kimi dnf few races...they still can beat all d rest (if not becoz of mclaren ****)

I would like to ask.. if there is no cheating or whatever..  why coughlan ask Stepney to put white powder in the Ferrari??

Rev limit does help the engineers a little but that is also just speculation. How can you prove that it did indeed help the McLaren engineers with engine reliability? Any reports?

Result is out.
They're GUILTY.
Let's move on 

Yadda...yadda...yadda...too bad not expelled for two(2) years.
We'll see how they appeal.

the Chilly sauce u want..

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3262_2720609,00.html

And finally, in the latest twist in the Stepneygate saga, Nigel Stepney has denied ever working for Ferrari.

hay..  this make me getting boring about F1.. .. .. .. .. .. 

maybe time to forget about F1.. .. .. .. ..

Let's enjoy the coming free practice of the Belgian GP within 4 hours.
Unless both Lewis and Hamilton DNF in the remaining GP...it's a battle for WDC between those two.
That's the fact.
Although I'm still optimistic on Ferrari's chances.

I don't get it...engine lasting longer actually reduces engine reliability doesn't it? How is this related to Mika's time when the engine rule that time wasn't as strict as currently.

Just to add my own point of view. The MP4-22's engine development started mid-last year. Ferrari data obtained on March 2007. Season starts on 2nd week of March 2007. So this means from the day the docs were received, there's only 2 weeks time to implement things onto the car to make it reliable, before the race starts. Assuming the FO108T is really a piece of unreliable crap, do you think the McLaren engineers will be able to turn that around, with the Ferrari docs and ONLY 2 WEEKS TIME, and make it reliable enough to last 2 GP's? I don't think so.

Come one ppl. In 2004, the Mercedes power plant was a piece of crap in terms of power and reliability. In 2005, they managed to make it go fast but not reliable enough. For 2006, it's "quite" reliable, but still lack of speed. In 2007, they managed to find the best reliability/speed ratio, making it both fast (not necessarily fastest, since the Ferrari's outpace it in most cases) and reliable and you call that cheating?

dude, IIRC he always qualified for all his races.

He bang Rosa?
I think he banged an Italian driver in Hungary...forgot his name.

No TC for next year??  wow.. that is fantastic.. 
I wonder what Mika gonna say about the case... 

TC no fun la..  cannot see much smoke on the tyre.. cannot see tyre spinning... 

but great enough is this year got 2 driver can do synchronize Drifting even with TC.. 

19000 rpm if not mistaken

I was just reading the news on F1-Live and noticed this...

teams usually have updates on their car for each different track isn't it? So does this mean that McLaren will have to report to the WMSC everytime before using any new parts?

Definitely.

Ron Dennis..."We're pulling our drivers and entire team out until 2008!"

He hasn't said it yet, but there is nothing left to be done but to do so. Here's how I look at it...

"IF" Ron was ignorant of this whole mess and he is half the man he claims to be (no team orders, we're an honorable team, etc. etc.), then he has no choice but to retire the team from this year's racing.
"IF" however, he was complicit, then he must also retire his team anyway because it's the best way to minimize the damage already done to the sport.

THE CAR AND TEAM IS ILLEGAL... FULL STOP!!!

All the world knows it, but the FIA is too soft/moronic to know what needs to be done.
Any man worth his salt would simply throw in the towel and try again next year (after also sacking Alonzo, PDR, Caughlin, and anyone else who was privy to the Ferrari info within the team).
A complete purge is necessary to make things right.
Nothing less will do if Ron cares at all about the future of the sport.

Come on Ron...show us what caliber of man you are! We're waiting...

Since they're guilty...sure it'll effect the sponsors such as Santander (bank).

I really dont get it. Why are we still debating this topic.
Everyone is spying one another. Ferrari tap McLaren lines and McLaren tap Ferrari lines (read F1-Live article about Kimi report to FIA). At the end of the day, its all about fair play. Even though McLaren did use the data, Im still wondering whether its possible to really use them on their cars without any problem.) Its even more surprising to see that Ferrari data has better effect than it does on a Ferrari car. Hahaha.

Anyway, what has been done, was done and we all have to accept the fact whether like it or not. I still support F1, for the technology, excitement, media and personality it brings. We just hope that we wont see the same case again next year. FIA decide to punish McLaren. Thats it. Its useless to punish the drivers because they are not the one who triggered the espionage. I think Ron Dennis should be punished for letting it happened in his camp although he reiterate his innocent. This is not Malaysia. Tak tau attitude sounds ridiculous to me.

haha i think he will stand wit us if Kimi still wit us.
anyway nobody discuss bout the race comin  this weekend instead posting "i'm still damn angry with the verdict".

comon move on...