If eveyday earn RM200.... one month can earn RM4k ... ok what.

u think like working , everyday earn money so easy . this is trading ok got risk malaysia market growing smaller & smaller everyday.

The last time you went was when?
During recession period?

In fact if you go 2 contracts each time you trade, earn RM500 shouldn't be a problem, no?

it sounds easy to make RM500 per day with two lots but in fact it isn't

Rm500 / 2 = Rm250 per lots

Rm250 / Rm50 = 5 points

in ranging markets, not easy to make NET 5 points per day

must prepare for the losses.. where got 100% everyday winning? any system or method can achieve 100% winning?

after losing for more than 3 rounds, muka sudah pecat la..

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Added on September 24, 2009, 12:21 pm2007 and 2008 were good years for FKLI and FCPO, no matter u trade position or scalp or whatever

but this year it aren't for scalpers or short term trading..most of the years will be the same with 2009

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Added on September 24, 2009, 12:22 pmthere is no 100% winning for 20days method

pls let me know if u got!

This post has been edited by moody5: Sep 24 2009, 12:22 PM

2 lots for fkli not enough at least 5 - 10 lots but i don't like bcos at last broker who will be the winner . risk & rewards ratio no good. collecting small money is hard work.

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Added on September 24, 2009, 8:01 pmDo u know why malaysia small market bec`ome smaller no energy. this is bcos bursa set the limit for stock like RM1.00 stock can move 1 sen RM10 can move 5 sen . this way is to turn m market to become little .where got overseas pro come to play . no big player no game lor .
I don't know what the bn goverment thinking want the stock market to turn smaller . i think is bcos they have no experience to manage the market
u see now bursa have too sell its own share 25% to CME hope they can help to attract big boy from overseas to come in the malaysia derivatives market .
i feel sad as a malaysian

This post has been edited by tblee88: Sep 24 2009, 08:01 PM

Experienced the difference in August '09, the sudden downfall caused by Shang Hai.
When Shang Hai down 200 points, during lunch time, I was so worried how many points CI will fall.
When market reopened at 2.30pm, CI down only 20 points.
Don't know if this is good or bad...

HSI down 500 points today but FKLI only down 2.5
SSE crash 3% last friday but we are green.

Very unpredictable.

haha it show MALAYSIA BOLEH

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Added on September 25, 2009, 9:01 amThis kind of 'unpredictable' always happened

Anyhow the trading range of FKLI is getting smaller and smaller.. how to survive? haiz

trading in tight range for short term only feed the brokers while we suffer the emo

This post has been edited by moody5: Sep 25 2009, 09:01 AM

the highlighted part is very true, since some broker (if u mean the futures broker and not the futures broker) tend to churn commission from clients trades.. exiting 4-5pts without receiving the full value.

My perception is...

Brokers who do churning (even to some extent traders - u n me) merely gain in the short term, we merely see the immediate profit.

Simple comparison, would be a get rich quick scheme. if u are one of the early investors, u'd probably see high returns 30-50%.

The unfortunate truth is, it only takes one event to wipe out all gains made, the only winners are the Futures Broker House and the Broker.

Sorry aurora, mind to explain what does the highlighted part mean?

the highlighted portion actually trying to say "if one is not referring futures broker and not the futures broking house"

i had my coffee 5 mins ago just realised the mistake, thanks for pting out.

Futures Broker = same like remisier
Futures Broking House = CIMB Futures, OSK Futures etc...

aurora, got it!

Now i understand

debbieyss, you still trading futures?

dannyooi_84, yes i'm still trading futures, still learning...

I though you're going to quit already. lolz. more to learn from you and other sifus!!

taking premature profits and holding losing position without stop loss = suicide

there are winners in the market. It is a zero sum games. 10% of the players make their profits out of the 90% players.

the reality is cruel but very true..

Good FBR will only take orders from clients and they won't comment so much about your positions..

i expect "FBR" that you mean = Futures Broker?

Seems like you've been through hardships in Futures trading....

hardships are good for futures

FBR = futures broker representatives

hi all sifu,
I am new to FKLI. I had few question that i would like to ask.
1) Where can I get the FKLI chart? Can't find it on Bursamalaysia
2) Is the event like political, US Market, IPO, bluechip, affect the FKLI market. Would appreciate if you would share more.

Would really appreciate it for reply! =)

http://www.hlebroking.com.my/derivatives/

The value of FKLI is sentiments based. If market sentiments bullish its several points above the current value of FBM KLCI. If bearish then will be at a discount compared to KLCI. This makes it very unpredictable.

The only predictable thing is, all contracts will have a final value based on the last hour of the last trading day for that particular contract. So, if you have enough holding power and you are sure market will go up, you can buy(long) a contract that will expire on 31 march, you could actually choose to not look at FKLI and just look at our KLCI index instead. And if you think market will go down, you can choose to sell(short) a contract instead.

Bear in mind the words that are bolded . If you overleverage you'll find yourself broke, or cutting loss at the worst possible price.

This post has been edited by Medufsaid: Mar 1 2010, 11:13 AM