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post Apr 22 2020, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Apr 21 2020, 03:58 PM)
Have u confirmed with the people in the condo that they can hear the voices too? The "real Malay neighbour" might be one of them too shocking.gif

Any remote chance that the people saying these things were real people? Like maybe you mixed up the voices back in your old house and in your condo? hmm.gif
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Nope the condo is not fully occupied. The real malay neighbour is real as ive seen her many times.

Definitely those things are not real people, as they do this the whole day which no real person would do. No mix up, they are the same thing, as same voice.


QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 21 2020, 04:57 PM)
Hi Bro, I've been reading about your case and has been thinking about it for a few days. I just want to confirm a few things. I'm a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt in real life, and the training has lead to me being very logical when it comes to troubleshooting. There is just a few question I would like you to answer so that we can rule out certain root cause.

1. You mentioned that you were taking some medicines for about a year but with no effect. Can I confirm that you went to a Psychologist, and he or she would have had sessions with you and prescribe the medicine. Could you maybe elaborate about this fact, what did the Dr say?

2. You mentioned that even after taking the medicine, it had no effect, does it mean even when you take the medicine the voices are still there and as loud and clear as ever or there were times you can't hear the voices anymore.

3. When you say even your neighbours can hear, you specifically went to a few of the neighbours and ask them if they heard the ruckus the noises were hearing, and individually they said yes? what else did the neighbour say?

4. Do you remember any special incident or event just before you started hearing these voices?

5. When you approach the sifus to try to settle your problem, what did the sifu specifically said beside saying the voices had no body and is staying far?
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Hi bro,

1. After they have revealed themselves I did go to a psychologist, thinking it’s schizophrenia. After hearing my story which is awkward to tell, he suspected schizophrenia and prescribed medications for it.

2.In the beginning these beings usually disturb about a month and then they would be gone for 2 months and then disturb for another month again but the past year it’s been everyday. Even when I took medication in the beginning, the disturbance still happens in this pattern.

They were always threatening me to go overseas or they would disturb me. In the beginning when I was fearful I did go overseas to take a rest thrice and each time, I only hear them up to the airport and when I was overseas I did not hear them at all. Twice when I came back from overseas I did not hear them for 2 weeks to a month before they return. On the third time, on entering Malaysian airspace I heard them again in the plane. Their voice is subtle like from far away so I think people may not take much notice especially in a noisy environment. I ditched the medications after this as I am then convinced that this is not a sickness.

I’m positive the old house behind neighbour can hear them as she usually shouts at her children and I can hear her shouting about what these things said. But I didn’t go to her and ask as not close to her. In my condo it’s the residents from different floors that shouted at them I think as not many people on my floor. They seemed afraid of people scolding them as they toned down after that and dare not talk much about god anymore. I did hear the Indonesian maintenance guy of the condo calling them animal spirits from a few floors down and when I got him over to my place to do some maintenance some time later, I brought up the topic of whether he heard voices in the condo, he sounded nervous and immediately changed the topic.

4.I do not remember any special incidence.

5.Actually it’s my own assumption that they can’t takeover the body and that they are always at a distance as their voice are usually subtle like speaking from far away. The sifu kept calling them, saying he wants to negotiate, assuming they would take over my body. After half an hour and this failed he got me to drink a flower water and lighted incense close to my nose. He said he has one case like this too and that the person is well again after getting enough sleep and exercise and just ignore and not think about them.

Ps: Thanks bro for the recommendation.

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post Apr 22 2020, 12:22 PM

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gaffelierefigeac after reading about your experience, one part, it boils my blood that these beings managed to harm u in terms of making u take medication and almost made u believe u had psychological issues. On another part, this raise another point of view for me.

Could it be that what u are experiencing is due to your hearing capacity, as in you are able to hear things that others cant hear (something like dogs can hear wider frequency than us humans)? Or like the 3rd eye for sight, maybe our ears are also capable of opening additional sense of hearing other worldly things? Maybe like the 3rd eye, this unique capability of your ears could be closed too. Just a thought, i am sure some of this might have crossed your mind since you had been suffering with this for a long time.
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post Apr 22 2020, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(onetwoswitch @ Apr 22 2020, 12:22 PM)
gaffelierefigeac after reading about your experience, one part, it boils my blood that these beings managed to harm u in terms of making u take medication and almost made u believe u had psychological issues. On another part, this raise another point of view for me.

Could it be that what u are experiencing is due to your hearing capacity, as in you are able to hear things that others cant hear (something like dogs can hear wider frequency than us humans)? Or like the 3rd eye for sight, maybe our ears are also capable of opening additional sense of hearing other worldly things? Maybe like the 3rd eye, this unique capability of your ears could be closed too. Just a thought, i am sure some of this might have crossed your mind since you had been suffering with this for a long time.
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It could be too, however if i have hearing abilities i would be hearing other spirits too.
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post Apr 22 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Apr 22 2020, 10:26 AM)
Muggles like us miss out all the good (and bad) of the spirit world.

Which is good because I have a feeling A LOT of us would abuse or find despicable ways to utilize the benefits that world can offer if a big proportion of us have our eyes opened to it. Human greed and fear can have to bounds anyway.....
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A few people who I know that have this ability prefer not talking about it, or having it at all due to obvious reasons.
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post Apr 22 2020, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 22 2020, 01:17 PM)
A few people who I know that have this ability prefer not talking about it, or having it at all due to obvious reasons.
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That is due to the fact that the majority of people will think:

1) The person is completely bonkers

2) The person is a penunggang agama conman and is out to cheat people.

I've actually gotten pissed off at a few of my close friends who knows, because they went and tell their friends and they ask my friend to bring them come see me for some ritual. I politely decline them and tell them I am not a professional situ, my job is the Regional Procurement Head for an MNC then ask them to seek advice from other sifu.


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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 22 2020, 12:51 AM)
Terkukur is the 3 rows of houses beside the primary achool,  Im interested to ear your story too. I still have friends who stays nearby the area.
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not much stories there any more. i can't remember, when i talk to my mom if she's in the mood maybe got more la cos i was young and nothing actually kacau me.


the next house more stories. this one in Bandar Menjalara. nice end lot unit, 10 ft land at the side i think about 20-30ft extra at the back. the whole row facing the big main road jalan kepong to LDP. really nice neighbourhood to live in too bad they sold it when i was still in school if not i would have done something to hold on to the house.


back then about 20 years ago la, the back of the house was a steep hill down all the way to the main road. the developers planted like a row of trees on the top right after the back of our houses as sort of a "barrier". blocks out some sound from the road as well. sometimes at night those racers still accident and can hear as i was using the bedroom at the back.

this house had many gloomy spots. the living room was split into sort of 2 areas, one where the TV was and the other was sort of a place for receiving guests. the TV area was extra gloomy. added to that it was next to the staircase bottom so we made a storage area under there, quite messy so it added to the whole thing. when the house was new and just moved in all was ok, over time i guess the energy in the house was not good. so it took a turn for the worse and those things started getting stronger? or maybe they just moved in cause nobody bothered and so much negative energy.

it came a time maybe 1-2 years before selling it off to our neighbours the whole house was like shrouded in gloom. no matter how many times u change the lightbulb also same got one layer of like gloom like that. don't know how many times i changed my room lights, initially it will be brighter but still got like sort of a "fog". after a while gave up. i think i was like 16 or 17 then, not like i can move out. aside from that there was always a feeling of someone watching me in the house. my computer was next to the door, so i would leave the door open most of the time unless i wanted to play loud music or game at night. always i would feel like someone is outside watching. got so used to it that i never realised it's something until i moved to my current place.

at night going down to get a drink from the kitchen is a real challenge, no matter how many lights i turn on it will still feel very dark. i would never go to the kitchen in the dark to get anything. how also must on all the lights all the way to the kitchen or where ever. i was still very stubborn la. 17 and 18 years old time at night go yum cha with my friends come back 3am etc kena marah also don't care.

back then my dad didn't install any aircon in any rooms because he said electricity bill too expensive so i had no choice but to leave the windows open at night, if not it will be too stuffy. the issue was outside the window it's like pitch black. total darkness. it's super scary. for me nothing happened but i always felt spooked, but my sister kena damn kao. if she didn't close the windows before sunset, that night sure will have something in the room, it will move her make up or whatever on her dressing table. she would wake up with hand prints on her leg or arms. when she was younger she even sleep walked quite a bit. she was weaker when younger, had asthma so i guess these things can prey on her. when older a bit she had to leave the bible open before sleep and it must be a specific page. i don't know which page but if my mom clean the room or someone accidentally turn the page then at night sure kena kacau again. best thing is i don't sleep till late and i never notice anything even though our rooms are next to each other.

my mom told of one experience early in the morning like maybe 4am or something. my grandma used the groundfloor room and she will wake up maybe 5am do some light house work like sweeping etc. but she will just take care of ground floor but that day my mom heard something sort of like sweeping up to the 2nd floor so she like half wake up to see, maybe my sister came to use her toilet or whatever. instead she saw a 3 feet tall thing walking covered with a cloth, but not fully white she said got pattern like table cloth flower type. it moved from the stair case into her room and into the toilet. my mom also like don't care la, half sleep half wake up. the thing never kacau her that night so she didn't bother. she is damn brave dealing with all these since young kena a lot.



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post Apr 22 2020, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 21 2020, 10:07 PM)
wah this Tree Demon is like straight out of this moive  biggrin.gif

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post Apr 22 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 22 2020, 10:32 AM)
Every morning there is a BCP (Business Continuity Plan) meeting among the Senior Leadership of the Co...Malaysia started the MCO on the 18th March and Singapore started the CB on 7th April..first week was getting the Miti approval for all our plants to run then after that was helping all our supplier to get approval for meeting...even busier than normal work day...but now mostly all settle, the morning meeting that use to take 1 hrs to report update now only take 15 mins. That is why now got more time to write here.

Today I want to write about why certain "beings" exist in certain race's folklore but not other races. I would appreciate any feedback here. The "being" I want to talk about is the "Banana Spirit". I've seen 2-3 Banana spirits before, and it's also one of the spirits that we kinda handle by "extreme measures". So I would just like to put a disclaimer first...ladies and gentlemen, please do not try this at home. Banana Spirits are generated when the female flowers of a Banana tree accidentally come into contact with male human blood. This can happen during harvesting of banana and such lar. But one of the things I don't understand, one of the other races that uses the Banana tree plant a lot are Indians. I've never heard of any Indian friends talking about Banana spirits. By logic and statistic, they should have higher possibility just due to the fact that the frequency of interacting with a Banana tree is higher.
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there is some way to contacr the spirit.. i heard malay cakked it hantu pokok pisang

you tie the banana tree with thread and tie it to your big toe

the spirit will come to you

i frequently watched tamil movies and some of their programmes... in astro there is one tamil paranormal series with the title 'Thigil'

one of the episode is that.. this tamil fella wanna be rich.. and he just kinda google about spirit of banana tree

what ao funny is that he googled it in bm... semangat pokok pisang nang thani

he do the ritual and become succefull

later he suffered because nang thani come to get him in nightmarish look
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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Apr 21 2020, 01:11 AM)
Here is another one.

My high school has 4 to 5 blocks and each one of them has stairs on both ends except for one block where it was sealed.

Rumour was that a couple committed suicide there and whoever goes in will get lost. Right beside the stairs is also a small plot of land. People said it used to contain a tombstone.
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St joseph?
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post Apr 22 2020, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 22 2020, 03:52 PM)
St joseph?
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yeah. are you a josephian too?
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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Apr 22 2020, 03:58 PM)
yeah. are you a josephian too?
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remember there was a locked room in the middle of the staircase. is that the one you are referring to?

most story tipu one la
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 22 2020, 04:01 PM)
remember there was a locked room in the middle of the staircase.  is that the one you are referring to?

most story tipu one la
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that's a different one.

yeah but those are wonderful memories of my school, so i enjoyed them smile.gif
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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Apr 22 2020, 04:02 PM)
that's a different one.

yeah but those are wonderful memories of my school, so i enjoyed them smile.gif
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which store room ya? the one near the biology lab? I never knew of that school being keras.

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 22 2020, 04:06 PM)
which store room ya? the one near the biology lab?  I never knew of that school being keras.
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Yes, that's the one.

Not that keras. Just some parts of the school feel eerie and that's all.
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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Apr 22 2020, 04:14 PM)
Yes, that's the one.

Not that keras. Just some parts of the school feel eerie and that's all.
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no la, during my time the staircase was there alright. Not many people use that staircase, so I suppose they seal it off to make room for store.
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Apr 22 2020, 12:35 AM)
I had encountered this silent jungle incident a few times. It's very weird how completely silent it can be. We thought that a predator eg tiger or other big cat is probably nearby. Instead of leaving quickly, we stayed still or move very slowly but alert. Didn't know then got such thing as tree demon. Didn't pay much attention whether got really old tree there...
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Not all are bad. Like humans, got good got bad. You no disturb them , they leave you alone. If they manifest frightful sights, probably to chase you away.
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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Apr 21 2020, 05:38 PM)
Oof, that's something new as well sad.gif

Can I presume that Tree Demons fall into the "Evil" order of beings since they are predators of spirits? Or are they just a Chaotic Neutral type entity?

LOL, Murica pun ada satu....

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not all are bad, but quite fierce if you disturb them. They can cast terrifying images to chase you away.

Chaotic neutral - AD&D right?
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QUOTE(gaffelierefigeac @ Apr 22 2020, 12:05 PM)
Nope the condo is not fully occupied. The real malay neighbour is real as ive seen her many times.

Definitely those things are not real people, as they do this the whole day which no real person would do. No mix up, they are the same thing, as same voice.
Hi bro,

1. After they have revealed themselves I did go to a psychologist, thinking it’s schizophrenia. After hearing my story which is awkward to tell, he suspected schizophrenia and prescribed medications for it.

2.In the beginning these beings usually disturb about a month and then they would be gone for 2 months and then disturb for another month again but the past year it’s been everyday. Even when I took medication in the beginning, the disturbance still happens in this pattern.

They were always threatening me to go overseas or they would disturb me. In the beginning when I was fearful I did go overseas to take a rest thrice and each time, I only hear them up to the airport and when I was overseas I did not hear them at all. Twice when I came back from overseas I did not hear them for 2 weeks to a month before they return. On the third time, on entering Malaysian airspace I heard them again in the plane. Their voice is subtle like from far away so I think people may not take much notice especially in a noisy environment. I ditched the medications after this as I am then convinced that this is not a sickness.

I’m positive the old house behind neighbour can hear them as she usually shouts at her children and I can hear her shouting about what these things said. But I didn’t go to her and ask as not close to her. In my condo it’s the residents from different floors that shouted at them I think as not many people on my floor. They seemed afraid of people scolding them as they toned down after that and dare not talk much about god anymore. I did hear the Indonesian maintenance guy of the condo calling them animal spirits from a few floors down and when I got him over to my place to do some maintenance some time later, I brought up the topic of whether he heard voices in the condo, he sounded nervous and immediately changed the topic.

4.I do not remember any special incidence.

5.Actually it’s my own assumption that they can’t takeover the body and that they are always at a distance as their voice are usually subtle like speaking from far away. The sifu kept calling them, saying he wants to negotiate, assuming they would take over my body. After half an hour and this failed he got me to drink a flower water and lighted incense close to my nose. He said he has one case like this too and that the person is well again after getting enough sleep and exercise and just ignore and not think about them.

Ps: Thanks bro for the recommendation.
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Hi bro, just wondering if you actually approach the people on your condo just to confirm further..

Here's a nice article explained by psychology: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out...her-apparitions

Another one: https://www.livescience.com/52641-science-o...mal-ghosts.html

Been trying to read further for logical explanations, as you know the human brain is so complex and fragile, you could really see "things" that are not there. Stress, isolation, extreme conditions can all contribute to these "hallucinations/sightings" or "presence".

Don't mean to belittle or discredit anyone's experiences here as I myself had such an experience and I'm quite conflicted to be honest.

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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Apr 13 2020, 01:52 AM)
Finally

Something I am interested in.

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 22 2020, 01:28 PM)
That is due to the fact that the majority of people will think:

1) The person is completely bonkers

2) The person is a penunggang agama conman and is out to cheat people.

I've actually gotten pissed off at a few of my close friends who knows, because they went and tell their friends and they ask my friend to bring them come see me for some ritual. I politely decline them and tell them I am not a professional situ, my job is the Regional Procurement Head for an MNC then ask them to seek advice from other sifu.
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Fair enough. So that is why many prefer to keep it to themselves. I have this childhood friend who has this ability. There were many instances of him suddenly becoming quiet and pale suddenly and we were already used to it, thinking he has frequent mood swings etc,
There was once we went into this public toilet. There were 4 of us and there were 4 urine booths available. So each of us had one. This guy with the 3rd eye ability walked out of the toilet and waited. When I came out I shouted at him because we were in a hurry and ask him why he didnt go, he told me the toilet was full, and proceeded to go in after that. sweat.gif
Another time was , when we were younger we had this weekend drives up Genting, Ulu Yam with our souped up cars, now its called touge. This particular friend usually is not keen on going especially during night time. There was once he was in a another friend's car, as a passenger. Needless to say soon everyone was chasing each other up Genting in different cars. One we reached second police checkpoint, a very much faster car, an Mitsubishi evo iinm passed us and of course all started to give chase. But this friend with the third eye stopped the friend who was driving to not chase, of course the friend didnt listened and continued. The friend with the third eye insisted and argued with the driver not to chase and his face turn pale but he didnt say much until we reached the top.
When that friend brought up the topic when we were having TT at Starbucks and asked this friend why stop him from chasing. He was relucant to say at first but after some pestering, he told us seriously that there were "additional people in the car but didnt want to elaborate further. When I pressed him for an answet later, he told me there were "uninvited guests" in the backseat of the car and usually something bad would happpen to the car, ie accident etc.

This particular friend tries not to tell others he has the abilities, reason being like what you said. He has tried going to a few medium to rid this ability but it keeps coming back after awhile until he has given up.

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