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post Apr 18 2020, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM)
Cremation has no effect, the soul still guard the place where the ashes are placed, just think of it like a normal grave is landed property and the columbarium are Condos.
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Just curious how about cases where ashes are scattered to the winds or to the sea?
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM)
Cremation has no effect, the soul still guard the place where the ashes are placed, just think of it like a normal grave is landed property and the columbarium are Condos.

I think I will share one of the story that made me learn a lot about the concept of Hell. if you all want to know, wandering spirits can actually hide from people that can see them if they wanted to. I remember I made a trip to Genting with my coursemates after our final exam, I was driving, and after the trip, we drove back to our hometown, my coursemates were all from the same hometown, so of course the last one to go home was me lor. I remember reaching home wee hours of the morning, around 4am. As my brother opened the gate. he tapped on my car window and told me someone riding on top of my car, ask me to halau first before driving into the carpark (then he went back to sleep). So I got down from the car and saw that a wandering spirit was really sitting on top of my car, a Malay Pakcik. (so for people with 3rd Eye, maybe you can confirm if this was common, but for me, when communicating with spirits, more like you are saying something in your heart, not spoken out verbally). I ask the Pakcik what he wants and why he follow me back. The Pakcik told me, he has been stuck in Genting for a long time, then saw my car passby and he felt that I can see him, so he tag along, and he wants me to help him "crossover".

I don't know why, maybe I was in a good mood, so I told him can he wait near the bamboo groves near my house (now you all know why never plant bamboo in your house compound). Few hours later I call my Sifu to ask what should I do, my sifu just told me do a simple ritual to help him cross-over, just need to prepare some stuff and chant some simple sutras. So I did lor. Prepare the incense, some hell money and offering of fruit, meat and Guinness. As night came, I told the Pakcik, "Are you ok if I use Buddhist way to send you cross over, as I do not know Muslim way"...he replied whatever as long as can Jalan.

So started to burn the incense and candle, then burn a request with the Pakcik's name, while chanting, then stop chanting and burn the hell notes. The Pakcik recieved the money after completely burning it and ask what are these for? I told him later there will be hell guards coming to escort you to the place you suppose to go, these are to eh...hmmmm..give to the guards as derma ikhlas (not bribing ar..derma) few moments later, the Hell guards came, started to enjoy the offering and drink the Guinness, then saw the Pakcik giving them the derma and the Pakcik left with the guards.

Nest day I went to my Sifu's place and ask him, how come our Buddhist way works on a Muslim? then he told me how the system works.

So to explain it so that all the k'tards here can understand. Basically Hell is like a SSC (Shared Service Centre0 just like large conglomerate has an SSC for Payroll and such. A soul is brought down to hell and there are 18 levels, each level has a judge and each level punishes for different bad deeds, example Soul A will report himself to Level ! that punishes for Greed, and the judge will read to the soul what kind of Greed sin that the soul has committed and how long he needs to spend at Level 1, after he pays of for the Greed Sin, he goes to level 2 that punishes for being unfilial, if Soul A did not commit any Sin of this type, he moves to level 3 and so on. So at the end of the Level 18, the individual reps from the Souls's religion will come and take the Soul to the next point.

any Questions so far?
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So the hell is SSC, what about people that have no religion? or people that are in cult or in lesser known religion apart from buddhism islam and christianity? is there such thing as a true religion?
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM)
Cremation has no effect, the soul still guard the place where the ashes are placed, just think of it like a normal grave is landed property and the columbarium are Condos.

I think I will share one of the story that made me learn a lot about the concept of Hell. if you all want to know, wandering spirits can actually hide from people that can see them if they wanted to. I remember I made a trip to Genting with my coursemates after our final exam, I was driving, and after the trip, we drove back to our hometown, my coursemates were all from the same hometown, so of course the last one to go home was me lor. I remember reaching home wee hours of the morning, around 4am. As my brother opened the gate. he tapped on my car window and told me someone riding on top of my car, ask me to halau first before driving into the carpark (then he went back to sleep). So I got down from the car and saw that a wandering spirit was really sitting on top of my car, a Malay Pakcik. (so for people with 3rd Eye, maybe you can confirm if this was common, but for me, when communicating with spirits, more like you are saying something in your heart, not spoken out verbally). I ask the Pakcik what he wants and why he follow me back. The Pakcik told me, he has been stuck in Genting for a long time, then saw my car passby and he felt that I can see him, so he tag along, and he wants me to help him "crossover".

I don't know why, maybe I was in a good mood, so I told him can he wait near the bamboo groves near my house (now you all know why never plant bamboo in your house compound). Few hours later I call my Sifu to ask what should I do, my sifu just told me do a simple ritual to help him cross-over, just need to prepare some stuff and chant some simple sutras. So I did lor. Prepare the incense, some hell money and offering of fruit, meat and Guinness. As night came, I told the Pakcik, "Are you ok if I use Buddhist way to send you cross over, as I do not know Muslim way"...he replied whatever as long as can Jalan.

So started to burn the incense and candle, then burn a request with the Pakcik's name, while chanting, then stop chanting and burn the hell notes. The Pakcik recieved the money after completely burning it and ask what are these for? I told him later there will be hell guards coming to escort you to the place you suppose to go, these are to eh...hmmmm..give to the guards as derma ikhlas (not bribing ar..derma) few moments later, the Hell guards came, started to enjoy the offering and drink the Guinness, then saw the Pakcik giving them the derma and the Pakcik left with the guards.

Nest day I went to my Sifu's place and ask him, how come our Buddhist way works on a Muslim? then he told me how the system works.

So to explain it so that all the k'tards here can understand. Basically Hell is like a SSC (Shared Service Centre0 just like large conglomerate has an SSC for Payroll and such. A soul is brought down to hell and there are 18 levels, each level has a judge and each level punishes for different bad deeds, example Soul A will report himself to Level ! that punishes for Greed, and the judge will read to the soul what kind of Greed sin that the soul has committed and how long he needs to spend at Level 1, after he pays of for the Greed Sin, he goes to level 2 that punishes for being unfilial, if Soul A did not commit any Sin of this type, he moves to level 3 and so on. So at the end of the Level 18, the individual reps from the Souls's religion will come and take the Soul to the next point.

any Questions so far?
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that is a superb analogy concept to explain Hell, almost cant believe it can be so intertwined

so a spirit could appear so clearly to you as someone with the abilities? you can tell his age group and race, can you guess which era he was from?

also kindly elaborate on bamboo relationship with spirits?

do bamboo plant attracts?

how about those bamboo in a vase one?

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QUOTE(V429 @ Apr 18 2020, 08:47 PM)
Just curious how about cases where ashes are scattered to the winds or to the sea?
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Scatering the ashes in the wind or to the sea will have problem, the soul is scattered and will be very weak.


QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Apr 18 2020, 08:53 PM)
that is a superb analogy concept to explain Hell, almost cant believe it can be so intertwined

so a spirit could appear so clearly to you as someone with the abilities?  you can tell his age group and race, can you guess which era he was from?

also kindly elaborate on bamboo relationship with spirits?

do bamboo plant attracts?

how about those bamboo in a vase one?
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Spirits that just passed away looks almost like a shadow, you can roughly see the shape but can't really tell the details, while older spirits you can see very clearly, just that they are almost like monochrome. Bamboo and certain trees with vines are preferred shaded area by the spirits, don't ask me why, it's just like that. The bamboo in a vase no issue, I am talking about those bamboo planted on the ground and grown into very big.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM)
Cremation has no effect, the soul still guard the place where the ashes are placed, just think of it like a normal grave is landed property and the columbarium are Condos.

I think I will share one of the story that made me learn a lot about the concept of Hell. if you all want to know, wandering spirits can actually hide from people that can see them if they wanted to. I remember I made a trip to Genting with my coursemates after our final exam, I was driving, and after the trip, we drove back to our hometown, my coursemates were all from the same hometown, so of course the last one to go home was me lor. I remember reaching home wee hours of the morning, around 4am. As my brother opened the gate. he tapped on my car window and told me someone riding on top of my car, ask me to halau first before driving into the carpark (then he went back to sleep). So I got down from the car and saw that a wandering spirit was really sitting on top of my car, a Malay Pakcik. (so for people with 3rd Eye, maybe you can confirm if this was common, but for me, when communicating with spirits, more like you are saying something in your heart, not spoken out verbally). I ask the Pakcik what he wants and why he follow me back. The Pakcik told me, he has been stuck in Genting for a long time, then saw my car passby and he felt that I can see him, so he tag along, and he wants me to help him "crossover".

I don't know why, maybe I was in a good mood, so I told him can he wait near the bamboo groves near my house (now you all know why never plant bamboo in your house compound). Few hours later I call my Sifu to ask what should I do, my sifu just told me do a simple ritual to help him cross-over, just need to prepare some stuff and chant some simple sutras. So I did lor. Prepare the incense, some hell money and offering of fruit, meat and Guinness. As night came, I told the Pakcik, "Are you ok if I use Buddhist way to send you cross over, as I do not know Muslim way"...he replied whatever as long as can Jalan.

So started to burn the incense and candle, then burn a request with the Pakcik's name, while chanting, then stop chanting and burn the hell notes. The Pakcik recieved the money after completely burning it and ask what are these for? I told him later there will be hell guards coming to escort you to the place you suppose to go, these are to eh...hmmmm..give to the guards as derma ikhlas (not bribing ar..derma) few moments later, the Hell guards came, started to enjoy the offering and drink the Guinness, then saw the Pakcik giving them the derma and the Pakcik left with the guards.

Nest day I went to my Sifu's place and ask him, how come our Buddhist way works on a Muslim? then he told me how the system works.

So to explain it so that all the k'tards here can understand. Basically Hell is like a SSC (Shared Service Centre0 just like large conglomerate has an SSC for Payroll and such. A soul is brought down to hell and there are 18 levels, each level has a judge and each level punishes for different bad deeds, example Soul A will report himself to Level ! that punishes for Greed, and the judge will read to the soul what kind of Greed sin that the soul has committed and how long he needs to spend at Level 1, after he pays of for the Greed Sin, he goes to level 2 that punishes for being unfilial, if Soul A did not commit any Sin of this type, he moves to level 3 and so on. So at the end of the Level 18, the individual reps from the Souls's religion will come and take the Soul to the next point.

any Questions so far?
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Great explanation bro. That is roughly what is explained to me by my. You mentioned that recently departed souls are very faint and unclear, I have seen orbs. Are they the same? I dont have a third eye ability but I have seen an orb in a hotel room that will move away when you head towards it.

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post Apr 18 2020, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 09:48 PM)
Scatering the ashes in the wind or to the sea will have problem, the soul is scattered and will be very weak.
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Interesting. One more off topic question of personal interest, what if a person is cremated together with an object like maybe a favourite violin? Will that affect anything?
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM)
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.. you can see hell guards???
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 18 2020, 10:07 PM)
Great explanation bro. That is roughly what is explained to me by my. You mentioned that recently departed souls are very faint and unclear,  I have seen orbs. Are they the same? I dont have a third eye ability but I have seen an orb in a hotel room that will move away when you head towards it.
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They can be spirits or something else (I call them "dan lain-lain). To put it in simple terms, different people with different energy or luck will see different stuff. if they move away when you walk near them, means your fire damn stong

QUOTE(V429 @ Apr 18 2020, 10:13 PM)
Interesting. One more off topic question of personal interest, what if a person is cremated together with an object like maybe a favourite violin? Will that affect anything?
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That one no effect...they will have their fave violin with them.

QUOTE(leah235 @ Apr 18 2020, 10:23 PM)
.. you can see hell guards???
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Hell Guards, Dato kong, Orang Bunian, Penduduk...you name it lar....

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 10:28 PM)
They can be spirits or something else (I call them "dan lain-lain). To put it in simple terms, different people with different energy or luck will see different stuff. if they move away when you walk near them, means your fire damn stong
That one no effect...they will have their fave violin with them.
Hell Guards, Dato kong, Orang Bunian, Penduduk...you name it lar....
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do they look like very scary?

anyway noticed about bamboo grown from the ground, means not good?
I thought it's good as it will halau away the snakes......
Snake dont like bambooss....?
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 10:28 PM)
They can be spirits or something else (I call them "dan lain-lain). To put it in simple terms, different people with different energy or luck will see different stuff. if they move away when you walk near them, means your fire damn stong
That one no effect...they will have their fave violin with them.
Hell Guards, Dato kong, Orang Bunian, Penduduk...you name it lar....
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i ask before but no one reply. Can you see spirit through photo and video? there this HK talk show they said they can see this




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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Apr 18 2020, 10:39 PM)
i ask before but no one reply. Can you see spirit through photo and video? there this HK talk show they said they can see this

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM)
any Questions so far?
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I would like to thank you for taking the time to share with us your explanations!

I have two questions:

1) Does a ghost able to communicate with another ghost?

2) If they could, wouldn't they be living in a much more peaceful world if they mind their own things (not kacau-ing other beings) and just stay in this world forever without the fear of the lack of financial, security (life/death) and stress?

Probably there are 'officers' wondering just like us in this MCO period.

But if they are able to avoid them and not kacau human (which likely lead to the human getting a sifu to cleanse them), why would they want to be reincarnated to a different being if they would suffer all over again? Ie. Human: Life, stress, love, routine life, fear of death. Achieving Nirvana/going to heaven is a long and disciplined process. Wouldn't it be better living forever as a ghost and linger forever?

Unless, they are not able to differentiate if they are alive or not. Or keep repeating the loop. Then that's suffering la.


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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 10:28 PM)
That one no effect...they will have their fave violin with them.
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I see. smile.gif Thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(leah235 @ Apr 18 2020, 10:33 PM)
do they look like very scary?

anyway noticed about bamboo grown from the ground, means not good?
I thought it's good as it will halau away the snakes......
Snake dont like bambooss....?
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for the human spirits, they can show you how they look like when they were alive or at the moment of death, so some can be grotesque, have you all ever seen industrial accident pictures showed by Socso, like hand go into grinder...those kind of feel, not like the movie...like the Ring those kind of feel.

QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Apr 18 2020, 10:39 PM)
i ask before but no one reply. Can you see spirit through photo and video? there this HK talk show they said they can see this



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I've never ever seen one of those show where they film at haunted places and see any spirits on camera.

QUOTE(IOharper @ Apr 18 2020, 11:02 PM)
I would like to thank you for taking the time to share with us your explanations!

I have two questions:

1) Does a ghost able to communicate with another ghost?

2) If they could, wouldn't they be living in a much more peaceful world if they mind their own things (not kacau-ing other beings) and just stay in this world forever without the fear of the lack of financial, security (life/death) and stress?

Probably there are 'officers' wondering just like us in this MCO period.

But if they are able to avoid them and not kacau human (which likely lead to the human getting a sifu to cleanse them), why would they want to be reincarnated to a different being if they would suffer all over again? Ie. Human: Life, stress, love, routine life, fear of death. Achieving Nirvana/going to heaven is a long and disciplined process. Wouldn't it be better living forever as a ghost and linger forever?

Unless, they are not able to differentiate if they are alive or not. Or keep repeating the loop. Then that's suffering la.
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Answer 1: Yes, they can communicate, just like when they were living.

Answer 2: They are normally trap here, and they do not have a home, those that their living family have an ancestor tablet, they have a home. You just imagine hor, you kena MCO for 50 years, what will you become, you will be a bit cookoo right, same for them. Being able to escape the dharma wheel is not an easy feat. There are also a lot of those "dan lain-lain" that actually feed on these wandering spirit...meaning they will get eaten.....

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 09:48 PM)
Scatering the ashes in the wind or to the sea will have problem, the soul is scattered and will be very weak.

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Four questions:

1) If the ashes of a loved one are split between two places (temple and family altar), what happens to the soul of the deceased? Is it weakened as well?

2) For a family with multiple ancestral tablets (all over the country or world), how do "ancestors" allocate themselves to which ancestral tablet location for their jaga place?

3) Can a picture of a deceased loved one suffice as an "ancestral tablet" equivalent if he or she is put up in an honoured place? Or does it have to be "activated" first?

4) If people like you (with third eyes and ability to interact with wondering spirits) help rescue wondering spirits and assist them in moving on, would you get good karma for this? How about rescuing them from their "predators" in the spiritual world?

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Apr 19 2020, 12:22 AM)
Four questions:

1) If the ashes of a loved one are split between two places (temple and family altar), what happens to the soul of the deceased? Is it weakened as well?

2) For a family with multiple ancestral tablets (all over the country or world), how do "ancestors" allocate themselves to which ancestral tablet location for their jaga place?

3) Can a picture of a deceased loved one suffice as an "ancestral tablet" equivalent if he or she is put up in an honoured place? Or does it have to be "activated" first?

4) If people like you (with third eyes and ability to interact with wondering spirits) help rescue wondering spirits and assist them in moving on, would you get good karma for this? How about rescuing them from their "predators" in the spiritual world?

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Answer:

1) I've until now never seen where ashes are split into 2 places, either they are put in the columbarium or put in home. Splitting will weaken the soul.

2 & 3) If you put the picture of a single deceased loved ones at home (normally also with the ashes), that is called a "灵位" and not an Ancestral Tablet. Normally, will need to have Sifu make sure that the deceased know about the "灵位" and follow it back to the house. Normally you will not have multiple ancestral tablet, the practice is the eldest son house will have the ancestral tablet. But example, if a family, a grandfather pass away, they can start a ancestral tablet, and then as maybe thru time pass, family members pass away, the soul of the family members must be added to that. (just imagine those insurance agency lar, maybe one of the agents achieve don't know what Millon Dollar table, they come out setup another agency. ah. like that). Always remember, for those that in the house that do not have activated deity, only have ancestral tablet, if you move house, make sure get sifu to make sure the ancestral tablet is move properly. if the ancestor never moved to new location and you start to give offering, means any tom, dick and harry can go in and stay there.

4) We can't help everyone, just like someone ask you to help all the homeless people in Malaysia, you wont have the time, and it will be physically draining.,,and yes you will actually get very big good deed karma. Why we also don't really "Rescue" them is that there are a lot of things that I would not want to mess around with..scary things.

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