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post Apr 18 2020, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Apr 16 2020, 02:15 AM)
Hahaha... okay will start posting one of the most creepiest ones I was involved in. Posted it on a FB group at one time so you may have read it before.

I wanted to post earlier but kept getting derailed reading all the replies here laugh.gif
Wah! I usually read hantu stories from Malay perspective. Nice to read from a perspective of Chinese person! Can't wait to read more hantu story from uncle again.

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post Apr 18 2020, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 06:38 AM)
I accidentally saw it few times.. well many others, but as long as not disturb me I just move oh. Me and my driver saw one car passed by with a hantu kum2 stand on it in front of M-city ampang few weeks before MCO 😂😂🤣🤣
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How do you know it's kum2?
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post Apr 18 2020, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:22 AM)

Basically like this.. the temple/holy place is the heart of deities/God... and all the place above would be filled also by spirits/ghost that also worship that deities/God..
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May I ask? I once heard that Buddhist chants (not sure about prayers) tend to attract lost souls as they tend to 'feed off of it' , perhaps hoping to obtain salvation from it? I find this explanation somewhat contradictory because when people in certain faith find themselves in paranormal situation they are likely to chant to fend them off, but according to this explanation it might attract more of them instead?

Does the above make sense?
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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 03:58 AM)
Wahh I have so many stories to catch up.. thank you everyone who spiced up this MCO by share firsthand real experience and willing to connect with others in this thread.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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post Apr 18 2020, 10:05 AM

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Spooky story, not saying ghost is real or anything but this happened to me.
Last time at uni, I used to stay up late in the student office alone to surf the net, play dota, stream shows and stuff. My office was separated from a neighboring office by a thin plywood partition and that office is always locked when there's nobody around. Anyway, nearly every morning at around 3, I would hear something knocking on the partition. It would spook me and I would quickly pack my stuff and go home. But after a while, I was less afraid because I was thinking maybe it was the rats that run around in the ceiling. So one morning, I was in the middle of a heated dota match when the knocking started. I decided to ignore it. The knocking continued, and I kept ignoring it. Then suddenly something slammed against the partition wall. It was loud enough that I jumped in my seat. Immediately left the match, packed my stuff, and went home. Never stayed past 3 am since.
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post Apr 18 2020, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Clea @ Apr 18 2020, 10:05 AM)
Spooky story, not saying ghost is real or anything but this happened to me.
Last time at uni, I used to stay up late in the student office alone to surf the net, play dota, stream shows and stuff. My office was separated from a neighboring office by a thin plywood partition and that office is always locked when there's nobody around. Anyway, nearly every morning at around 3, I would hear something knocking on the partition. It would spook me and I would quickly pack my stuff and go home. But after a while, I was less afraid because I was thinking maybe it was the rats that run around in the ceiling. So one morning, I was in the middle of a heated dota match when the knocking started. I decided to ignore it. The knocking continued, and I kept ignoring it. Then suddenly something slammed against the partition wall. It was loud enough that I jumped in my seat. Immediately left the match, packed my stuff, and went home. Never stayed past 3 am since.
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Everytime this kind of things happen, it's a reminder from 'them' to tell you that it's their turn to occupy the place.

Just like in the office, after it passed a certain time, and you are still alone, there will be bound to be some weird sound from the keyboard or photocopy machine. Those maybe can be due to air pressure or something. But if I hear sound of door 'teeet', the sound of someone trying to gain access but don't have access card, I will cabuttttt! Doesn't matter if it is a ghost or robber. Lol
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QUOTE(onlyfans69 @ Apr 18 2020, 02:55 AM)
If you are talking about the hotel which are just opposite the beach (now reclaimed land) yes its known to be quite haunted, if it's the new hotel Hatten i never heard such occurence before  sweat.gif
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This was in 2009. Hatten-Dataran Palawan was still in construction, I think.

QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 06:38 AM)
Oh wow.. u remember the room number?
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I don't. Too many years have passed. I don't even remember which floor except that it's near the top.
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Apr 18 2020, 01:04 AM)
Story1:

More than 20years ago when I was working in Seremban, I used to scale Gunung Angsi most Saturdays and Sundays for a couple of years. I normally used the Ulu Bendul trail. Initially I go with a group, but later on it was mostly solo.

I felt I know the route very well and start doing early morning hike up to see sunrise at the peak. Nothing unusual ever happened. Then one day I wanted to do a sunset hike..going up at 4pm, stay at peak to watch sunset and then go down. On the way down, I lost my way. I'm not very sure how it happened..but I was unable to figure out where I was. The jungle looks very different from what I was familiar with. I decided to just follow the stream.

Some 1hr later, I thought I saw another trekker with his torchlight on the other side of the stream. I shone/waved my torchlight towards him but he doesn't respond. Without thinking much I crossed the stream to get to him, but as soon as I wet my feet, he has disappeared. When I get to the other side of the stream, I can see the familiar trail nearby and managed to safely descend.
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Being a regular climber/trekker at that area, Im sure you know that trail very well. Being a regular hiker myself, Im sure you know the "unwritten rules" of jungles and forests. But still experienced hikers could get lost on the same trails we go through almost every weekend like you did.

One thing I have learned over these years is that to have upmost respect to the Jungle and its "inhabitants". Many who have the "third eye" ability can tell you the forest are filled with these "inhabitants" and it is best to avoid going in near dusk and at night. I have personally participated in search missions in some forest near me for lost trekkers at night and I can tell you its a totally different ball game when the forest is as dark until "you can't even see your own hands without the torch". My advice to all trekkers, hikera, hashers, runners, do not go in the forest/jungle during dusk and night, no matter how familiar you are with the trails. You dont want want visitors into your home at night, so does the jungle.
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Alright.. this story was happened in 2004, it was my first time witnessing an exorcism. My youngest aunt from my mother side(mother’s youngest sister) was only 21 years old when she shocked the heck out of everyone with her new “boyfriend”. She was a fair young woman, but very quiet and shy, excel in study(she’s a Phd holder now, married and lives in Hamburg).... That Christmas she returned back home to spent the holiday with family and hang out with her old friend for 2 weeks, for the record, She never had any boyfriend before, yet out of sudden she became a bit strange, the worst..she brought home a middle age dat*’ who’s more suitable to be her dad rather than her boyfriend and introduced him to my grandparents.. he’s (sorry) m*l*y... My grandpa was lost his breath when he said that he intended to marry her... (before you guys brings up racial issue here, my Grandparents very open minded, for them, race is not an issue as long as both parties has same views and mission in life. My uncle married to B*mi by the way) both of my grandparents honestly already know that this guy got many “back up” the moment he stepped his foot on their house. They tried their best to stay calmed, assessed the situation and keep it civil.
They told the dat*’ that my aunt was in her final year university, they wanted her to finish her study first. Later, My grandparents said when this guy was in  their house, their energy and guardians have to wrestle the demons that been brought by this man non stop... Once that guy left, my grandparents had some talk with her, they asked her, who is he, and how both of them knows each other etc etc etc. Another bomb was dropped onto my grandparents head when my aunt told him that he met that dat*’ 3 days ago, then she realised that he is the love of her life in tears 😅😅.
My grandmother check the calendar and she told my grandpa that it was their weakest day of the month, so if that guy wanted to “attack” it would be that day.. without much convos, they brought my aunt to my house.. I just remember that evening, when my aunt Got out of the car, suddenly she’s fainted.
Not long after, dat*’ *zt*dz(M*l*y/DU) and dat*’ dayak(DD) arrived (both of them my grandparents good friend). All of them went straight to our living hall(big livingroom). Their drivers and staffs already brought complete “ingredients” and “weapons”  then prepared it On the floor of the living hall Lol 😂. From flowers, buah Pinang, oil, bamboo, limau, sirih, kemenyan, arang Batu etc etc etc.. I asked my mom, “what happened? Why everyone’s here?.” She only said that later I will know..
My Aunt gained her consciousness not long after, my mom feed her then... everything seems normal besides all the males include my dad + drivers + assistances was gathered together in living hall after dinner talking in the dark. They switched off all the lights. Only light from the outside penetrating the room through the windows and sheer shades as we didn’t close the blind. I was in my room when horrifiedly my aunts crying then run hysterically to the downstairs.. terkejut, all of us runs after her downstair. She was stopped infront of them.. the DU who sat on the sofa gave signal “tuan..”. Then he start chanting ayat In arabic while his assistant playing music, he’s k*l*nt*nese the DD also started his ritual, I would say it was a big mess.. my aunt with her hysterical crying nonstop, those people with music, Smoke of kemenyan, non stop chants... I was like “woww awesome!!”. My aunts run here and there like an animal who’s unable to escape from that livinghall..! We heard a very loud explosion on the rooftops few times, by the way Only then I realised that our helpers already crumbled bellow the dining table watching these(we sat on the stairs)😅😅😅.., it’s happened for 30mins till my aunt screamed in pain then fainted again. So pity her liao.. yet none of them stopped the rituals, my grandpa who’s on meditation position open his eyes and gave signal to took my aunt from the floor.
We brought her to the sofa opposite the DU 😅 kept quiet there.. till i heard a horse footsteps coming.. then I heard growling sound, the DD chants his spell loudly Macam singing.. we’re shocked by the appearance of something like big black gorillas out of my living halls glassdoors and full size windows.. it’s damn big.. then we saw the shape of halfhuman half horse body outside.. then one form of an old man with stick appeard as well.. I was like.. “holly molly f*ck!!” Then came one thing that keeps on moving... the good news they couldn’t go inside..

my aunt suddenly awake, crying again 😟... DU
Assistant came and asked her, what’s the matter.. she said she wants to go, she’s in pain.. she wants to met her half(that guy) but all of them torture her.. the DU stopped her chant and smile., he told her to leave my aunt alone, or they’ll come after that man, torture his “team” and make him bankrupt.... my aunts laughing like a horse.. then the “things” out side went wild.. Lol 😂.. it banged the windows and the door loudly.. The DU smile then chanting in Arabic again, louder while dancing and silat.. ok this one incredibly cool.. the DD speaks otherworld punya language 😂😂😂😂, they “fights” with whatever things outsides. More than 17 people in living halls., and we’re witnessing something that can’t be swallowed by logic... grunts, growl, screams and crying.. would put every normal people in a deep terror.. my aunt screaming in pain before fainted (again) 🤨. It’s was a mess like that for more than 30mins... suddenly everything just stopped.. it’s runaway 😰😰.. they stop everything that they’re doing, all became so quiet, so peaceful, serene.. and so calm..

later my aunt regained her consciousness but too weak to say anything.. the DD gave her drink water something..
They told us that everything is under control and we can brought her back to the room and sleep, they will be on siege there..  allright we go back up again, this time all of my helpers follows.. they afraid sleep downstairs🤣🤣😂😂.. just 5 mins after we reach the room.. my aunt vomit alooooooottttttttt and it was smells like rotten meat+rottenegg 🤮🤢everything, my mom and grandmothers cleaned her up.. I’m to tired after all of those thing, fell asleep immediately.. woke up in the morning saw my aunt, and you know what? She didn’t remember anything.. the last thing she remember she was accidentally bumped into that old man and he helped picks her things up... 😱😱😱😱😱
Note= i have no intention to insult anyone, if there’s anything that “tak kena”. kindly forgive with an open heart. Thank you 🙏🏻
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This is about the most vivid blow by blow commentary of a battle between Sifus I've read yet. Before I go on telling my stories, just a big of background story first. In my family, my Granpa from my mom's side was born with certain abilities, almost like a Sifu but not as strong, but he passed away before I was born, and in my family, my mom has the heaven's Eye or Third Eye. Myself and my younger brother also has this ability albeit my younger brother seems to have other ability also while my 2 younger sisters can smell when a spirit is around.

My Mom knew from a very young age that me and my brother could see things, and to be honest, we grew up thinking that this was normal..until when I entered kindergarten and my mom told me not to tell other people of certain weird things that I saw. There must be a few k'tards here that also can see things that posted in this thread, and they would agree with me that wandering spirits are actually everywhere, as long as that place is not protected by an "activated" Deity and your ancestors. The Chinese will pray to their ancestors and there will be a "祖先牌" in the house, so basically when you pray to your ancestor, they will be there to protect you in your house, and when you also pray to an "activated" ( 开光) Deity, the only spirits allowed in your house will be your ancestors.

Some of you may ask, if we believe in reincarnation (Buddhist beliefs), shouldn't our ancestors already been reincarnated, well, the system works this way. Every living being has 3 souls and 7 spirit (三魂七魄) and when we pass normally (not in a sudden or violent way), from the 3 souls, 1 will go for reincarnation, 1 will jaga at the gravestone and 1 will stay with the family to protect the family. I've also read in this thread that some people after meeting with some supernatural occurrence and they suddenly fall sick for a week, that is the 7 spirit got damaged.

Some of the other k'tards here that can see stuff, I'm very sure you have also seen a lot of other "beings" that are not human spirits, sometimes we know what they are, sometimes we don't. For example, ever so often, I will see this being, the head of a horse and the body of a normal human, if that being sits on top of a vehicle, I know that vehicle going to meet with an accident. But this being I not one of the Hell guards as they have uniforms. I am a UKM Alumni, and if there is any UKM Alumni here, you all probably know that road in front of Bangunan Falkulti Sains Hayat (now known as Fakulti Sains & Technologi), that place is a crossing place for Orang Bunian, that is why so many bikes will terbabas there, the driver sometimes at night last minute will ternampak and they will try to elak then terbabas.

Since young, myself and my brother followed this Sifu that my mom knows, because more or less we had to learn how to protect ourselves when circumstances calls for it. So everywhere I go, I carry certain "barang". Because of my work, I fly a lot and it's always awkward to explain to the secu people manning the x-ray scanner what is the thing I was carrying, and I've learned if you just say, that is a religious amulet, sorta like a Christian cross, and most time they are ok with it.

i have a lot of stories, but I think maybe choose a few good ones and share it here later.
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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 05:51 AM)
Pengerang explosion right? Eh.. dekat JB many haunted place..
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Nah, not that one, this one happen in Pasir Gudang, it's happen somewhere in 2014, the incident was not reported in the tv that time considering its a small case compare to the pengerang case. Several victim die, including one of ours.

Anywhere got ghost one, only that our own eyes cannot see them all the time...😁😁😁
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post Apr 18 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 18 2020, 01:05 PM)
Being a regular climber/trekker at that area, Im sure you know that trail very well. Being a regular hiker myself, Im sure you know the "unwritten rules" of jungles and forests. But still experienced hikers could get lost on the same trails we go through almost every weekend like you did.

One thing I have learned over these years is that to have upmost respect to the Jungle and its "inhabitants". Many who have the "third eye" ability can tell you the forest are filled with these "inhabitants" and it is best to avoid going in near dusk and at night. I have personally participated in search missions in some forest near me for lost trekkers at night and I can tell you its a totally different ball game when the forest is as dark until "you can't even see your own hands without the torch". My advice to all trekkers, hikera, hashers, runners, do not go in the forest/jungle during dusk and night, no matter how familiar you are with the trails. You dont want want visitors into your home at night, so does the jungle.
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Tempat orang buniman. Have to be polite to them if the forest or jungle MUST be visited at night.
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post Apr 18 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(fapman @ Apr 18 2020, 07:34 AM)
What time did it happened?
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Around 8PM

QUOTE(miss comet @ Apr 18 2020, 09:34 AM)
How do you know it's kum2?
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It was stood above the flyover.. I accidentally said “eh tu makcik in telekung nak Cross the road..?”... my driver look up, “hantu kum2” then it’s dissappeard 😅

QUOTE(V429 @ Apr 18 2020, 09:44 AM)
May I ask? I once heard that Buddhist chants (not sure about prayers) tend to attract lost souls as they tend to 'feed off of it' , perhaps hoping to obtain salvation from it? I find this explanation somewhat contradictory because when people in certain faith find themselves in paranormal situation they are likely to chant to fend them off, but according to this explanation it might attract more of them instead?

Does the above make sense?
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Basically every prayer in any religion.. has similiar meaning just in different languages. When somebody do normal prayer to connect with their god or deities it does attract the lost soul.. why? Because they are unable (blocked) to connect to their God as they are no longer “perfect”... so when they’ve seen you praying, they wants to come and follow, that’s the reason old people always said “go pray with a clean heart.” Why? Because it’s not only affecting your relationship with your God, you’ll be the example/imam for them as well..


They wont simply get salvation or peace after heard your prayer, no. Because your prayer is intended for your affairs and not them. However if you are purposely pray for their name to get the “light”, then yes, they would be directed to the light to be in touch with their God again.

Next question, why in scary moments people tend to chants off the prayer or ayat if it’s attract the lost soul?

Because there’s so many types of prayer, one like a love song, when another like a Christmas gift request.. if you are afraid and you ask for protection, it won’t attract the wandering soul,
It would give you protection from the malice entities..



Classic example =

“ if your god were like your parents, and you have a very generous parents, you pray and ask them candies, “the lost kids” also wants to come and line up, who knows your parents willing to look at them and drop them one or twos candies.”

This is the reason the wandering soul would joined your normal praying, not joined for protection prayer when you are attacked by evil spirit.

QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 18 2020, 09:46 AM)
Ladytarot's thread is the most interesting read in these weeks 😁🍻👏
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Hehe thanks for the visits boss.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:05 PM)
Around 8PM
It was stood above the flyover.. I accidentally said “eh tu makcik in telekung nak Cross the road..?”... my driver look up, “hantu kum2” then it’s dissappeard 😅
Basically every prayer in any religion.. has similiar meaning just in different languages. When somebody do normal prayer to connect with their god or deities it does attract the lost soul.. why? Because they are unable (blocked) to connect to their God as they are no longer “perfect”... so when they’ve seen you praying, they wants to come and follow, that’s the reason old people always said “go pray with a clean heart.” Why? Because it’s not only affecting your relationship with your God, you’ll be the example/imam for them as well..
They wont simply get salvation or peace after heard your prayer, no. Because your prayer is intended for your affairs and not them. However if you are purposely pray for their name to get the “light”, then yes, they would be directed to the light to be in touch with their God again.

Next question, why in scary moments people tend to chants off the prayer or ayat if it’s attract the lost soul?

Because there’s so many types of prayer, one like a love song, when another like a Christmas gift request.. if you are afraid and you ask for protection, it won’t attract the wandering soul,
It would give you protection from the malice entities..
Classic example =

“ if your god were like your parents, and you have a very generous parents, you pray and ask them candies, “the lost kids” also wants to come and line up, who knows your parents willing to look at them and drop them one or twos candies.”

This is the reason the wandering soul would joined your normal praying, not joined for protection prayer when you are attacked by evil spirit.
Hehe thanks for the visits boss.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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This is especially true for people who has the habit of blasting Buddhist chant CDs in their car (yes, there are people like that) One time I flew in to Ipoh to visit some customers there in my previous job, my distributor picked me up in his SUV, normally his dad would pick me up but his dad pass away few months ago, now the Son fully take over the company. He like to blast Buddhist prayers in his SUV...so at night he came to hotel to pick me up for dinner, and he still blasting..I told him, "Alex, you don't feel you car very heavy one meh? Fuel consumption koyak right....you never feel like a lot of people riding on top of your car meh?? Then I ask if can change the CD to radio or not...I think he immediately catch what I meant and change to radio...after that he never blast Buddhist chants in his car.
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QUOTE(Winning11 @ Apr 18 2020, 10:14 AM)
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 18 2020, 01:05 PM)
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It’s more like, you don’t want to be an uninvited visitor when all of them are “awake” 🤣😅. During the day time, only the guardians roaming around and most of them know/get used to human presence.. At night, the entire “kampong” were on their daily routine.. if suddenly human with their hot blood appeared.. they would be panic and furious.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 04:20 PM)
This is especially true for people who has the habit of blasting Buddhist chant CDs in their car (yes, there are people like that) One time I flew in to Ipoh to visit some customers there in my previous job, my distributor picked me up in his SUV, normally his dad would pick me up but his dad pass away few months ago, now the Son fully take over the company. He like to blast Buddhist prayers in his SUV...so at night he came to hotel to pick me up for dinner, and he still blasting..I told him, "Alex, you don't feel you car very heavy one meh? Fuel consumption koyak right....you never feel like a lot of people riding on top of your car meh?? Then I ask if can change the CD to radio or not...I think he immediately catch what I meant and change to radio...after that he never blast Buddhist chants in his car.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 01:22 PM)


Some of you may ask, if we believe in reincarnation (Buddhist beliefs), shouldn't our ancestors already been reincarnated, well, the system works this way. Every living being has 3 souls and 7 spirit (三魂七魄) and when we pass normally (not in a sudden or violent way), from the 3 souls, 1 will go for reincarnation, 1 will jaga at the gravestone and 1 will stay with the family to protect the family. I've also read in this thread that some people after meeting with some supernatural occurrence and they suddenly fall sick for a week, that is the 7 spirit got damaged.

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Ah... finally an explanation that reconciles some differing beliefs that my family and I have.

My old man believes that the spirit of the deceased never leaves the grave... it is their "home". I personally believe in reincarnation, though I kinda subscribe to Nachtsider's view that reincarnation does not happen instantly and it could be years to decades before a deceased soul moves on to reincarnate. And then of course you have certain souls and spirits tagging along whenever or wherever a family member or loved one goes.

The 3 souls concept would reconcile a lot of our understanding of the after-life then.

Question: how about cremating? Does it have any effect on the soul that guards the resting place - would a soul "hang out" at the columbarium where his or her ashes are interred?

Thanks for sharing your experiences!
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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:24 PM)
😅😅
It’s more like, you don’t want to be an uninvited visitor when all of them are “awake” 🤣😅. During the day time, only the guardians roaming around and most of them know/get used to human presence.. At night, the entire “kampong” were on their daily routine.. if suddenly human with their hot blood appeared.. they would be panic and furious.
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I also learned that the forest is where many shamans, bomohs, release "unwanted entities". So Im sure you dont want to be there at night.
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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:05 PM)
They wont simply get salvation or peace after heard your prayer, no. Because your prayer is intended for your affairs and not them. However if you are purposely pray for their name to get the “light”, then yes, they would be directed to the light to be in touch with their God again.
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Thank you Ladytarrot for the detailed explanation. The above part matches what I heard actually. I was told that one can pray/chant for the deceased to help them speed up reincarnation or provide them (for lack of a better word) with 'karmic currency'.

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 18 2020, 01:05 PM)
One thing I have learned over these years is that to have upmost respect to the Jungle and its "inhabitants".
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Just to share there was once where I was up on a mountain alone after dark, nothing paranormal happened but just to share.

Sometime during my secondary school years, one afternoon I suddenly had a urge to just climb the mountain nearby my home, so without thinking too much I got my mum to just drop me at the foot of the mountain (she went to work after this) and off I went. I had no phone with me and that was around 4pm. You can probably see where this is going.

So I just climbed the mountain (on tar road, I dont know what would have happened to me at the time if it was a jungle trail) I met less and less people as I climbed. By the time I realised I should have stopped, turn back and go down hill, the sun was already setting. I had absolutely nothing. No phone, no torchlight, not even a bottle of water. I was thinking like 'oh crap' and just walked as fast as I could. It got dark very soon.

There was once peculiar incident, as I was still on my way down suddenly all around me were very loud sounds of howling monkeys. It felt like 2 big gang of monkeys shouting at each other, and from the sound it seemed like I was completely surrounded by them. I tried to see where are the monkeys at in the very very dim light still available, but I could see none. Scared and not knowing what else to do I just continued walking downhill without any sudden movements. Luckily for me nothing happened, the sound did not follow me.

By the time I made it downhill it was around 8pm by my estimation and it was night time already. That time I still remember seeing one or two motorcycles parked here and there with couples in shaded areas doing.. stuff. lol. Tho I was relieved to see other human beings. I did not kacau them and they did not kacau me (they were busy anyway brows.gif ).

I spent another half hour to walk from the foot of the hill out to the main road and another half hour from main road to reach my home. Quite a dumb thing for me to just go without planning, luckily nothing bad happened to me.

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post Apr 18 2020, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Apr 18 2020, 04:46 PM)
Ah... finally an explanation that reconciles some differing beliefs that my family and I have.

My old man believes that the spirit of the deceased never leaves the grave... it is their "home". I personally believe in reincarnation, though I kinda subscribe to Nachtsider's view that reincarnation does not happen instantly and it could be years to decades before a deceased soul moves on to reincarnate. And then of course you have certain souls and spirits tagging along whenever or wherever a family member or loved one goes.

The 3 souls concept would reconcile a lot of our understanding of the after-life then.

Question: how about cremating? Does it have any effect on the soul that guards the resting place - would a soul "hang out" at the columbarium where his or her ashes are interred?

Thanks for sharing your experiences!
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Cremation has no effect, the soul still guard the place where the ashes are placed, just think of it like a normal grave is landed property and the columbarium are Condos.

I think I will share one of the story that made me learn a lot about the concept of Hell. if you all want to know, wandering spirits can actually hide from people that can see them if they wanted to. I remember I made a trip to Genting with my coursemates after our final exam, I was driving, and after the trip, we drove back to our hometown, my coursemates were all from the same hometown, so of course the last one to go home was me lor. I remember reaching home wee hours of the morning, around 4am. As my brother opened the gate. he tapped on my car window and told me someone riding on top of my car, ask me to halau first before driving into the carpark (then he went back to sleep). So I got down from the car and saw that a wandering spirit was really sitting on top of my car, a Malay Pakcik. (so for people with 3rd Eye, maybe you can confirm if this was common, but for me, when communicating with spirits, more like you are saying something in your heart, not spoken out verbally). I ask the Pakcik what he wants and why he follow me back. The Pakcik told me, he has been stuck in Genting for a long time, then saw my car passby and he felt that I can see him, so he tag along, and he wants me to help him "crossover".

I don't know why, maybe I was in a good mood, so I told him can he wait near the bamboo groves near my house (now you all know why never plant bamboo in your house compound). Few hours later I call my Sifu to ask what should I do, my sifu just told me do a simple ritual to help him cross-over, just need to prepare some stuff and chant some simple sutras. So I did lor. Prepare the incense, some hell money and offering of fruit, meat and Guinness. As night came, I told the Pakcik, "Are you ok if I use Buddhist way to send you cross over, as I do not know Muslim way"...he replied whatever as long as can Jalan.

So started to burn the incense and candle, then burn a request with the Pakcik's name, while chanting, then stop chanting and burn the hell notes. The Pakcik recieved the money after completely burning it and ask what are these for? I told him later there will be hell guards coming to escort you to the place you suppose to go, these are to eh...hmmmm..give to the guards as derma ikhlas (not bribing ar..derma) few moments later, the Hell guards came, started to enjoy the offering and drink the Guinness, then saw the Pakcik giving them the derma and the Pakcik left with the guards.

Nest day I went to my Sifu's place and ask him, how come our Buddhist way works on a Muslim? then he told me how the system works.

So to explain it so that all the k'tards here can understand. Basically Hell is like a SSC (Shared Service Centre0 just like large conglomerate has an SSC for Payroll and such. A soul is brought down to hell and there are 18 levels, each level has a judge and each level punishes for different bad deeds, example Soul A will report himself to Level ! that punishes for Greed, and the judge will read to the soul what kind of Greed sin that the soul has committed and how long he needs to spend at Level 1, after he pays of for the Greed Sin, he goes to level 2 that punishes for being unfilial, if Soul A did not commit any Sin of this type, he moves to level 3 and so on. So at the end of the Level 18, the individual reps from the Souls's religion will come and take the Soul to the next point.

any Questions so far?

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Sounds like other religions outsourced their hell sector / oversight / management to the Chinese and Indian pantheons, LOL!

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