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H.K. Lee
post May 19 2020, 03:48 PM

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interesting read. I only encounter these stuff 2 times in my life.

Once when i (around 16y/o) took a nap alone in the living room, when im about to wake up at 4pm, suddenly cant move my body, first i thought that's weird and try to struggle to get up, then suddenly at the back of my right ear i hear a woman, probably around in her 30s, ask 'do you still remember me?' in mandarin, i was in panic and whole body feels the chill. weird thing is my house used to have fullset those chinese altar, 1 guanyin, 1 tudi, 2 hanging infront and behind the house, 1 ancestral, but still kena also.

2nd time is around 23y/o, when i was working outstation building telecom towers in one of the plantation at sandakan, the rain was too heavy flooded some of the road, it was quite dark already around 6pm, ding dong here there i decided not to risk it and just back off and park near one of the estate office, i saw got someone lying on the ground at the roofed building entrance, it was dark without any light, i almost wanted to get down and go interact, before i realised maybe that's not a very good idea, because it was almost 9pm by then, i was thinking if anybody is there at 9pm they already plan to sleep there, and no way normal ppl is going to sleep there because it gets quite cold at night, and dont think any homeless ppl can reach that place also. The more i stare at it the more i feel the chill, but it was a good 10-15m away, so i just stay in the car and sleep until the next morning. The next day, i have a look at the entrance again, it's flat, nothing was placed there.

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post May 19 2020, 03:55 PM

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Fuuu! Haven't logged in to this thread for a while, now sudah 62 pages.
Nice, nice. Lots to read, but interesting.
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post May 19 2020, 04:32 PM

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First few pages, nothing much..

I forgot about this topic and then recently... I read about ts not around but this particular thread is interesting... Wow.. Didn't expect so many pages already... I really need some time to follow.. Hehe..

Thanks for digging this up. 😅👍
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post May 19 2020, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 23 2020, 03:16 PM)
Disclaimer: The following comments are from my personal experience and thoughts. I have no ill intention towards any religion or people of certain religion.....so okie dokie...on with the story.

This incident was what started my interest in Demonology and it's also one of the most terrifying experiences in my life (after this incident I've been reading up a lot on Demons). This happened back when I was around 2o year old, I was still in Uni and during the Sem breaks, I will on and off help my sifu with stuff, from something as menial like assembling a bookcase he bought to assisting him when people request for his help (he has a few other disciples but everyone has a day job, so not everyone will be around at the same time)

It was a Friday so I was looking forward to a night session of lepakking with my ex Form 6 schoolmates. 9.30am I received a call from my sifu ask me to go over to help him (maybe because I am the only one that is free). So drove my very old Toyota KE70 wagon to my sifu's place. Greeted my Sifu and he ask me to pack some stuff, Salt, Rice, and one really big Takrut that he left on the table. I've never seen the Takrut before. So my Sifu drove us to this area where normally a lot of rich people stay, and we stop at the front gate of one of the bungalows in that area.

Coming down from the car, I immediately felt the urge to run away. Like...really run, like "Run fat boy..run like you've never run before" kinda feel. My sifu say my face and told me "Everything will be ok, now, the Takrut you pack just now, wear it now so that it touches your skin, so I hung the takrut on my neck inside my T-shirt. The Takrut felt very heavy..like I'm wearing a suit of armour. My sifu told me, "Later we will meet a young girl, she is in trouble and we are here to help. Later there will be her relatives there, but they won't be able to hold her down, your job is to hold her down while I do my job, with the Takrut you are wearing, you are protected and you can hold her down"

I took a deep breath and said ok. So we rang the bell and this Uncle opened the door. We went into the bungalow and there were a few people there, 3 guys and another auntie which i assume is the wife of the uncle. The 3 guys are the elder brother of the little girl. Seems that this is a Catholic family as I see a small statue of Mother Mary at the living room. So the auntie greeted us and then she guided us upstairs to one of the room. The 3 brothers were also following. From outside the room, I can felt enormous pressure. I can feel that something is in there that was Pure Evil and Hatred. My Sifu ask me to give him the bag with the packed Salt and Rice and he grap the plastic, opened them and grab a handful of salt and put it in his pocket, then another handful of rice and put it in the other pocket. His words before going into the room was "Do not be afraid, you are protected, we are going to save the little girl today and it is your fate to help"

The auntie opened the door and we entered the room. When coming into the room suddenly the immense pressure was gone. In the room was a reading table with a PC, a clothing cabinet and a bed. There was a Cross on the wall diretly above the bed, and on the bed was the girl, I think she's about 15-17 years old, and she was staring at us smiling. She greeted her mom and her brothers and ask who are these 2 strangers (she meant me and my situ). The auntie then look at my sifu and said "This is what "It" does, we have had the Priest (I assume she meant Catholic Priest) come here to do blessing and this was how "It" always tries to fool everyone". (the conversation was in Mandarin)

My sifu spoke to the girl "Let's not waste time, we were able to see and sense your presence, hiding from us is not use, we know you are here". The girl replied "Uncle, I don't know what you are talking about". Then my Sifu took outa small dagger, this dagger also I've never seen before, but I know the handle is made from very old amulets crushed and formed into the handle and the metal probably is "lek lai" and he touch the tip of the dagger on the bed. The girl suddenly growled and the face was still smillnig but she talked without movied her mouth "This does not concern you monk, our business are with the lamb of Christ". It was a very low growly voice, and it was when she finished her sentence that suddenly, there was a darkness that envelope half the room. The immense pressure was back, I blinked at that moment and from the girl now I saw the "thing"'s real form. it was very hard to describe, but i knew at the moment, I wanted to throw up, and the smell was terrible. Feelings of fear, disgust, sadness was seeping into me, then my Sifu just tap me on the forehead and I just returned back to my normal self.

My Sifu started to negotiate with the thing...what would it take for it to leave this girl alone, of course then the thing spouted all these cuss words and say this girl is mine, I will never let her go. So my Sifu grab some salt from his pocket, touched it with the blade of the dagger and blew into it then threw the Salt at the girl. Seems the salt has a burning effect. Then next was the rice, so my sifu kept on throwing salt and rice at the girl until the darkness retreated. The girl basically screamed in pain all the while. When the darkness retreated, the girl slump down and went still. It felt like only a few seconds, but actually half and hour has passed by.

I said to my situ "Something is not right...still can feel that the thing is here..." My sifu said yes, it's trying to hide from us. Then my sifu suddenly use the dagger he was holding to stab the Cross that was on the wall on top of the bed. Black liquid started to flow from the center of the cross. My sifu ask me faster take the balance of the salt and rice, empty it into the yellow bag that I bought with me, and hold the bag open, my sifu basically hammered the dagger into the wooden cross then took the cross with the dagger jutting out from it and threw it inside the bag. I then close the strings of the bag. The atmosphere in the room immediately change back to normal. The girl opened her eyes and started crying asking her mom what was going on. We left the room and went downstairs. The Uncle was waiting downstairs and when he saw my Sifu, he ask my Sifu how was it, my sifu replied that everything is settled, but now don't have time to talk, need to faster go back to the temple to follow up on the thing inside the bag. So we drove back to the temple, and at 6pm, my teacher's other disciple got of work and came to help him. Before I left, I returned the big takrut to my situ. My sifu say he almost forgot, this takrut will protect me but can only use for a short while as it's too strong for me to stand. The takrut left a mark on my chest like when you go sunbathing and you left a book on your chest so end up a shape  of the book if left on the chest.

I also told my situ, during the moment just before you tap my forehead, I was feeling very scared, disgusted and sad, and I think I manage to glimpse for a while what was the thing. My sifu then ask me what I saw. I told him I saw people who was still living in jungles and they were some sort of civilization, with small pyramids built maybe as place of worship as I also say the jungle people was making life human sacrifice to something that they were praying to. Then I saw an image of the same jungle people but this time, some more advance people on horseback with flintlock rifle attacking the jungle people, either killing them or imprisoning them and they were after the gold that these jungle people had. My sifu said probably what I saw was some memories of the thing, and ask me maybe just do some research.

So I started to search the internet (during that time still the 56k dial up modem ar) so it took me sometime, but then I found out probably the jungle people were the Aztec or Incans who made human sacrifice and prayed to these Demigod. Then came the Spanish Conquistadors who invaded them, took their gold, converted them to Christianity or killed those who won't. My deduction would be why a lot of time Demons don't seem to bother people that are not from the Abrahamic religions is due to this kind of things happening.

To explain it in easier terms, these beings, the Demigods, they were enjoying the adulation of the Aztec and Incans, they are given fresh human sacrifice, suddenly come another factor, took their people away, took away their adulation, took away the sacrifice that they were enjoying and now their people also betrayed them by now praying to the God in Christianity. So these Demigod, these beings of course will be extremely pissed off with the faction that took everything away from them. Hence unit now they are still looking for payback.

The story is a bit long, but I am very glad I finally got it off my chest. Even my mom don't know this happened, because me and my sifu never told her.
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based on your story, it seems to me that demon/demigod are totally different ball game compare to those casual spirit, curse and stuff. That's because its has ability to think and has evil intention.

1. so after the event, didnt you ask how that stuff can get to possess the girl? like someone (human) try to summon it or something, takkan it suddenly fly to the cross.
2. How come the christian family willing to go with the 'chinese' method of exorcism (which i presume you were). The pastor or reverend cant deal with stuff like that?
3. with such abilities and experience, how about you share us your view a bit on religion or culture? for example maybe you notice some religion emit an aura and the surrounding spirit will give way or something, or some other culture use 'barang' to compensate for lack of aura.
4. aside from big fox you saw in japan, anything else you see interesting?
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post May 20 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Apr 23 2020, 06:29 PM)
That's a great share. Another example of an "inter-faith" battle between beings in addition to the ones shared by ladytarot and BillCollector.

Not to judge or make sweeping assumptions, but honestly, certain religions have probably made quite a few "spiritual enemies" with the very black and white way they view things. The way you described the Aztec / Incan deity's revenge against followers of the Abrahamic religions? Textbook example. One actually wonders whether these deities / beings were even originally evil in the first place, or whether their current form now has been "shaped" by the process and history they have been viewed by others and how their followers have been treated.

What I am trying to say is that if you treat me as a demonic being, and you wipe out my followers and devotees because you think they are devil worshipers or not following the "correct" religion, why wouldn't that corrupt me and turn me into something that I originally wasn't?! Even demigods / semi-divine beings are not fully free of the karmic cycle just yet.

But meh, honestly, between the demon who take possession of one or two lives at a time, and conquistadors who wiped out millions of souls "just because".... I know who are the true devils in this case.....
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Well, if you think human sacrifice is not evil, there is no further discussion. Conquistadors could be evil in their greed, but human sacrifice is evil too.
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post May 20 2020, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ May 20 2020, 12:53 PM)
Well, if you think human sacrifice is not evil, there is no further discussion. Conquistadors could be evil in their greed, but human sacrifice is evil too.
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In no where did I mention that I thought or think that human sacrifice is not evil

As a matter of fact, no one appointed you the arbiter of the standards of good or evil in this world.

No need to discuss further with me.
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post May 20 2020, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ May 20 2020, 01:09 PM)
In no where did I mention that I thought or think that human sacrifice is not evil

As a matter of fact, no one appointed you the arbiter of the standards of good or evil in this world.

No need to discuss further with me.
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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ May 20 2020, 01:09 PM)
In no where did I mention that I thought or think that human sacrifice is not evil

As a matter of fact, no one appointed you the arbiter of the standards of good or evil in this world.

No need to discuss further with me.
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Lulz...touche....that means you think that human sacrifice is evil lah..and that you have some idea of what is good or evil.. isn't it?
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post May 21 2020, 11:46 PM

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after dying, the soul leaves the physical world and has no more connections to it.
those so-called ghosts, spirits, are works of the devil.
the objective is to damn people into the occult and false worship.


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QUOTE(changleonghao @ May 21 2020, 11:46 PM)
after dying, the soul leaves the physical world and has no more connections to it.
those so-called ghosts, spirits, are works of the devil.
the objective is to damn people into the occult and false worship.
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Depends which view you follow.
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post May 22 2020, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(klang.boy @ Apr 13 2020, 06:19 PM)
okay la reading everyone's story tempted me to share my story. especially the last one about lights going off one by one.

this is back in 2009 / 2010 i think. went to singapore camp christine for a buddhist camp. The camp is well known to be haunted as my peers in the camp told me it's one of the first location the japanese landed when they were invading SG. Every night one of the faculty will bring some participants to one of the dorm further away to experience some stuff.

One night while i was waiting for my turn to be brought to the dorm, i was lingering nearby the dorm where the facilitators were sleeping. i was minding my own business when all of a sudden the lights on the walkway turned off all at once and turned back on one by one. Now bear in mind the facilitators were bringing people to the dorm to "experience" the paranormal so i thought one of them must be pranking me. I looked to my right and there's the light switch. Nobody was near me at that time.

Of course la maybe someone has control to another switch somewhere but how they can turn on the lights one by one. shitbrix after that and went back to main dorm to gather with everyone else. Turns out they suspended the "experience" thing as they heard a cry that is a mixture of animal and human. According to them that is not normal and they do not want to proceed anymore for everyone's safety. One of the facilitators also said he saw a dark shadow standing behind the camp doctor with fiery red eyes and that was one of the reason they aborted the entire thing too.

edit: did some research online and this is what i found:

https://www.hungzai.com/camp-experience/ <- the cry that was described by the others.

this should be the area where i experienced the lights turning off in the entire walkway and turning on one by one. i remember sitting on the metal handrail and i dont see any other metal handrail on other dorms.

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post May 24 2020, 03:59 PM

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I know I am missing from here of late.

Currently swamped with a major project and 2 newborn babies that are stuck in NICU, both are fine and can breathe on their own but a bit underweight. Bloody pain as for me to be anywhere near them I need to go through a showering and disinfecting process, be in protective gear and wear a breathing apparatus as I'm allowed to breath in the air in the hospital but the air exhaled has to be stored in a bag which is then released outside. Can't use any electronic devices while in there as these can't be brought into that area even.

Hope things will calm down a bit in the next few weeks but most likely won't be able to carry any of them for at least 100 days. Feel so strange can't even carry or touch my own babies and could only see them through 3 layers of plastic and glass.

Thankfully the mummy is fine, no complications this time round and is recovering well.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ May 24 2020, 03:59 PM)
I know I am missing from here of late.

Currently swamped with a major project and 2 newborn babies that are stuck in NICU, both are fine and can breathe on their own but a bit underweight. Bloody pain as for me to be anywhere near them I need to go through a showering and disinfecting process, be in protective gear and wear a breathing apparatus as I'm allowed to breath in the air in the hospital but the air exhaled has to be stored in a bag which is then released outside. Can't use any electronic devices while in there as these can't be brought into that area even.

Hope things will calm down a bit in the next few weeks but most likely won't be able to carry any of them for at least 100 days. Feel so strange can't even carry or touch my own babies and could only see them through 3 layers of plastic and glass.

Thankfully the mummy is fine, no complications this time round and is recovering well.
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Hey, congrats on the good news! biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2020, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ May 24 2020, 03:59 PM)
I know I am missing from here of late.

Currently swamped with a major project and 2 newborn babies that are stuck in NICU, both are fine and can breathe on their own but a bit underweight. Bloody pain as for me to be anywhere near them I need to go through a showering and disinfecting process, be in protective gear and wear a breathing apparatus as I'm allowed to breath in the air in the hospital but the air exhaled has to be stored in a bag which is then released outside. Can't use any electronic devices while in there as these can't be brought into that area even.

Hope things will calm down a bit in the next few weeks but most likely won't be able to carry any of them for at least 100 days. Feel so strange can't even carry or touch my own babies and could only see them through 3 layers of plastic and glass.

Thankfully the mummy is fine, no complications this time round and is recovering well.
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Congratz !!! Will pray for both babies to out of NICU soon. Take good care man.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ May 24 2020, 03:59 PM)
I know I am missing from here of late.

Currently swamped with a major project and 2 newborn babies that are stuck in NICU, both are fine and can breathe on their own but a bit underweight. Bloody pain as for me to be anywhere near them I need to go through a showering and disinfecting process, be in protective gear and wear a breathing apparatus as I'm allowed to breath in the air in the hospital but the air exhaled has to be stored in a bag which is then released outside. Can't use any electronic devices while in there as these can't be brought into that area even.

Hope things will calm down a bit in the next few weeks but most likely won't be able to carry any of them for at least 100 days. Feel so strange can't even carry or touch my own babies and could only see them through 3 layers of plastic and glass.

Thankfully the mummy is fine, no complications this time round and is recovering well.
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Woah sorry to hear that man but good that they're doing fine (your wife too). Since they have your genes, I'm sure they are pretty strong.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ May 24 2020, 03:59 PM)
I know I am missing from here of late.

Currently swamped with a major project and 2 newborn babies that are stuck in NICU, both are fine and can breathe on their own but a bit underweight. Bloody pain as for me to be anywhere near them I need to go through a showering and disinfecting process, be in protective gear and wear a breathing apparatus as I'm allowed to breath in the air in the hospital but the air exhaled has to be stored in a bag which is then released outside. Can't use any electronic devices while in there as these can't be brought into that area even.

Hope things will calm down a bit in the next few weeks but most likely won't be able to carry any of them for at least 100 days. Feel so strange can't even carry or touch my own babies and could only see them through 3 layers of plastic and glass.

Thankfully the mummy is fine, no complications this time round and is recovering well.
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Congratulations! Take care of the fam.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ May 24 2020, 03:59 PM)
I know I am missing from here of late.

Currently swamped with a major project and 2 newborn babies that are stuck in NICU, both are fine and can breathe on their own but a bit underweight. Bloody pain as for me to be anywhere near them I need to go through a showering and disinfecting process, be in protective gear and wear a breathing apparatus as I'm allowed to breath in the air in the hospital but the air exhaled has to be stored in a bag which is then released outside. Can't use any electronic devices while in there as these can't be brought into that area even.

Hope things will calm down a bit in the next few weeks but most likely won't be able to carry any of them for at least 100 days. Feel so strange can't even carry or touch my own babies and could only see them through 3 layers of plastic and glass.

Thankfully the mummy is fine, no complications this time round and is recovering well.
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2 newborn? Whoa!
Congrats, man. Glad they're doing fine.

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this thread has been one of my most "looking forward to" thread this MCO.
understand things are slowly getting back to normal, and people have less time to "socialize" here 😂😂
shout to post starter ladytarot and all contributors for keeping us entertained🤘
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So this weird thing happened, about 2 years ago.

My FIL had been seriously ill for a number of months and in the past few days prior to the "weird" incident, he had been sleeping without waking up at all. At this point of time, he was also in my in law's house under family and hospice care. He was definitely nearing his end.

I live about 20KM away from my in laws. And during this period of time, I lived alone as my husband would stay in his family's house off/on to help take care of his dad. So one day, I was walking my dog in my neighbourhood, and we were arriving quite near the park. However, just about 2 feet from the park, my dog suddenly starting barking at a banana tree + big tree which was planted at the edge of the park. She stopped walking and didn't wanna get nearer.

This has never EVER happened before. My dog is an extremely chicken-scaredycat-ball-less kinda dog, and she seldom barks, except for 2 occassion... 1. when there's a cat, rat or other animal lurking outside my house and she's unable to get to them OR 2. when i've left her outside and she wants to come into the house. Now, this was about 645/7pm and it was still quite bright. I didn't see any animals there (i tried looking for tupai and other small snimals i may have missed) and any humans were more than 10 feet away from us.

She started pacing and was still barking at the 2 trees. BUT it was very diff from her way of barking at other animals (like wanna attack kinda bark) and it was certainly diff from her "alert u" kinda bark. I could see that she wasn't staring intently at the trees (the way she does when i hold her off from chasing a cat) , but she was looking kinda like under-eye (indirectly) way. So it crept me out, right... i decided to walk to another jalan and my dog stops barking.

But after a few steps, i wanted to test her again (to see if i was just paranoid)...so i brought her back to 2-3 feet away from the trees... and she starts barking again at the 2 trees! At this point, i was getting the jeepers creepers man! icon_question.gif It was actually my husband's duty that day to stay in his family's house , just in case, although his dad had a caretaker.

However, because i was afraid, i asked if he could just spend that night back in our house, due to what I had experienced. He obliged. That morning, at about 6++ or 7 am, his sister called to say their father had passed away. bye.gif

Coincidence? Or not? hmm.gif

PS: Since i was young, i've had unexplained incidents...and sometimes i thought i saw something at night/driving alone etc. But I've always brushed it off/ignore. My mom thinks she's got the 6th sense and sometimes i do too. However, this incident was by far the creepiest-in-my-face incident. I know my dog very well, she's been with me for 10 years. I can tell what her barks mean. Since that time, my dog has passed by those same 2 trees many times, and not a single bark from her.
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