without totally discounting the fact that an "afterlife" really exists, this can actually happen. at the moment, we are unable to prove but we know that there's a 4th dimension to this world as there is our dimension to the 2nd.

perhaps when we die, we "disintegrate" into decipherable atoms which adhere to the laws of the 4th dimension. perhaps all the events stated in holy books are an account of sightings of 4th dimension beings but no one could understand the nature of things back then and just simply describe it as "miracles".

some times a door latch does not fit in nicely with the strike plate due to improper assembly.

although it appears to you that you have engaged the lock and close the door, due to the improper assembly, the latch does not sit in.

as for the "pushing", is there a draft in your home - wind currents at your home.

you can reproduce them especially in condominiums if your front door and the balcony door is open - a gust of wind will flow through continuously and is capable of slamming doors.

Thanks for sharing this BillCollector, will keep it in mind. As much as I wish no one will have to go thru such things, it is not entirely avoidable. And what happened to your wife's family is a blockbuster display of what happens to an entire family even if it is only 1 person who engage in such acts. Hopefully through your sharing, more people get educated and avoid BM.

This post has been edited by onetwoswitch: May 15 2020, 04:22 PM

1) When the video distorted, i felt as if something without figure passed from left to right in front of me, similar to the distortion pattern which appeared on my phone screen.

2) We didn't get physical disturbance during those times, it was more of getting shocked by the noise. But we always took the approach of heading towards the noises with the intention of debunking them.

3) All of us who met the owner thinks she is aware of it too, definitely past tenants would have complained the same. But by denying it and not returning the deposit, it is a good business for her. I always believe money earned in such way wont stick around long and nothing good comes out of it. Like those who earn money without putting in the right amount of effort, they also have expenses equivalent to their earning which wipes off that bonus. Car breaking down, falling sick, etc which requires them to part from the money. Hence we didnt make a big fuss over the burnt deposit.

This is definitely true, but not so easy to practice in real life due to our culture and tradition. Which reminds me of something which took place in my uncle's house. Will start writing about it and share soon.

It could also happen when u open or close one door and it creates a pressure in the room which moves another door. Can test it out to debunk what is taking place before concluding if there is real disturbance in the house.

There's one that happens many years ago when I was in primary school. My dad always working outstation, so when year end holiday comes we always move to where he was working at that time. In this incident is in aorund Nilai area if not mistaken. We live in a rather old flat, maybe around 7 floors with no lift, only have stairs. I thnk we live in 3rd floor. Then one night there's electricity shortage, so we went out for dinner when we came back, in the alley infront people's house, I saw a red figure floating midair, like stickman but red color, one hand up, the other hand down. I just kept quiet and never told anyone.

The other one also when i was in primary school, i went to SMK so had to attend night school to learn a bit chinese. The night school, daytime is SJKC school. One night, I was walking alone from classroom to office at first floor to buy pencil or stuff just before i reach the stair, i could see from the right hand corner of my eye a very bright green entity just stnding there. Its very bright green, maybe 5feet tall and rather bulky. I ran upstairs quickly then proceed to buy stuff. Then when walk back down I just run as fast as i can back to my classroom.

Also im kinda the person who thnk stuff by myself, not sure if that is uncommon.. I disscuss stuff with myself as if i was talking with other person. And sometime when I got into trouble, in the end i know thing will work out, as if something will always help me out. Almost feel as if i have a guardian by my side.

Once I have a friend who have the 3rd eye, i told her about it, she say she didnt see anything near me, but note that if Ive been feeling this way for very long time, the guardian might not always by myside. And that she have 2 or 3 that always beside her.

I actually have quite more story, I'll try write up next time..

The 2nd incident was from 11/2018 mostly.

That church guy showed up at the church in 1/2019 just before the house was demolished.

She let me take on the children 6/2019 (last week of it)

Last week of 8/2019 she came back and never left. This is where she decided to turn a new leaf.



Unfortunately that's the sad reality, between his ego, selfishness and stupidity he has ruined the livelihoods of many... siblings, nephews, nieces, wives and children as well as employees.

As for the MIL and FIL, visiting them isn't something we can do right now, last March we moved to Shanghai and before we left things were mostly a cold war because MIL told the wife she been disowned, something to do with a dispute they had in December where FIL told MIL he would like to live in a house rather than at a care home, MIL was living with us at that time and wanted to bring him to live with us in our house, wife said no as it wasn't convenient and she did not want the stress of having him in the house. Wife has decided she had done enough for them and to her only the children are #1... everything else doesn't matter.


This one I can answer you.

This guy I knew was messing with one girl from Sarawak, basically a married 45 year old guy who messed with an early 20s Iban girl who worked as a massage girl... even got her pregnant. He asked her for some time to settle the 1st wife and promised he would come back for her within the year. She found out he was playing her out and went to see one very powerful shaman.

I took a flight with him. KLIA - SIN.

When we were leaving KLIA, it definitely sets off the metal detectors and the handheld ones as well.

When we were leaving Singapore he wasn't allowed to board because it kept setting off the detectors. One of the body scanners at Changhi could pick up that he had metallic objects within his body and they brought him for an X-Ray.

They showed him the needles within his body after that. He wasn't allowed to board.

We took a bus and then brought him to SDMC where they did an Ultrasound on him, it didn't pick up. When they did a MRI on him, it did pick it up.

It was the MRI technician that told him most likely he had been BMed.

paragraph 1: did you spot the supposedly ghostly figure in an open alley in front of houses OR within the old flat compound?

paragraph 2: the office in your school opens at night to sell stationaries?

paragraph 3: no, it is not uncommon. what you are experiencing is called a "monologue", many people have them. do you mind elaborating what sort of trouble that you got out off with the help of this "guardian" that you are referring to.

paragraph 4: how do you know your "friend" has 3rd eye since there's no way for you to confirm her claims - and how old is she when she confide to you about her "gifts".

This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: May 15 2020, 06:31 PM

Ok, sad indeed. Take care of the missus, sure had a toll on her.

Am still waiting for the other story... the previous Pudu jail one.

I see. Thanks for sharing

Holy.... actual needles.... I am speechless...

How did they even got there in the first place? I meant (logically speaking) you would need to be beside the victim and literally poke a needle inside of them.

Won't the entire process be obvious as heck that the victim would've noticed and retaliate...

But I guess thats the BM/thai magic way of works la :/

1 - Its within the flat compund, infront the pople house.. In the flat, the hous is side by side, then infront is like walkway, sorry not alley..

2 - Yes, its night school, the stationery is very small located within the office..

3 - One time, primary school time, school will organise jogathorn, then need pupils to ask for donation.. I kinda messe up and used the donation money, i think is around rm20+
Then one day i kinda realize it and was like omg where can i get the money back, then while riding bicycle back home, i suddenly blackout, and got into accident, suddenly i was on the ground, infront is a van.. They all say the van stop and i ram into it.. I have no recollections at all, then the van driver give me some rm20 to compensate.. Even all say i ws in the wrong..
This is the more vivd one from memory..

4 - Back then was in NS, there are more event happens before me talking and ask her about it.. There's a few incident happened, and she was the one who reacted to it, one time we were in training in the kolam, then one wirawati suddenly got tarik into the water.. She cried saying she saw something pull her.. And a few more incident.. Now come to think about it, probably really have no definite way to prove her claim..

I've truly enjoyed reading all the stories/experiences you've posted so far. I'd have liked to say I would've done the same if ever presented with the same circumstances but to be honest I don't think I'd have the guts to pull off half the things you've done. Perhaps we can only know when truly facing the adversities ourselves.

Whether or not your stories are true, I have to give you the benefit of the doubt but I thank you for them, nonetheless. One thing's for sure, I'm sure glad things recovered between yourself and your wife. Best case scenario for your children, if nothing else.


Guess for all the enjoyment I've received from this thread so far, it's only fair I share an experience of my own. Nothing near as exciting Billcollector's, obviously.

I was in primary school and believe it was our final year (standard 6). My school was a very old one, it turned 100 years old when I was in Form 5. It was a pretty big school where it had both primary and secondary sections but each had its own library, computer rooms, football fields, classroom blocks, etc. In fact, the entire school had 3 fields, a basketball/tennis court, a building with badminton courts and we even had our own church and it was a pretty sizeable one. We had our own swimming pool, scouts house, hostel, etc, the works. It's a really old missionary school and our principals had always been Brothers, well at least it was until I left.

I digress. So in the corner of one of the primary school fields, there was this huge old tree and there was a monkey bar where kids would hang out during recess as it was shaded. It was right next to this old gymnasium that was perpetually locked up. The gym was a building of its own. It was REALLY old and we only ever went in once as part of a scout activity to try to clean the place up but it was a massive effort. Don't think we succeeded as most were afraid to go in.

I'm digressing further but the star of the story is actually this old huge tree next to the monkey bars. The tree was just like any other old tree but one day i saw an arrow carved into it. It was a pretty big and deep carving, at least 1 or 2 cm in diameter and depth (as wide as the tree itself), pointing towards the gymnasium. I pointed it out to my friends and no one realized it was there before. It didn't look like a new carving as it looked as aged as the rest of the tree. A couple of days later we went back and the arrow head, instead of pointing to the gym, has now turned 90 degrees and is pointing towards the base of the tree trunk and had the same aged look.

If someone had made a new carving, there should be the original arrow head pointing towards the gym but there was no trace of it. We went back again the following week and there was now no trace of the arrow at all.

Good thing it was the end of primary school and we never had the chance to go back to that field again once we got into secondary school as we had our own field and stuff.

Being 12 years old, we weren't really scared but it was a real WTF moment for us. Completely forgotten about it until I came into this thread.

Cheers.

When you're too scared you can think of mintak number ah? hahaha

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1. i see, if that the case then perhaps it could have been a phenomena called "Pareidolia". you were young (small - maybe imaginative) it was dark (electricity is down), it was an old flat so it could have been someone's laundry hung outside to dry and the "sighting" was along the walkway (narrow) therefore no reliance on any peripheral vision. it's quite impossible that your parents did not catch a sight of "it" and could have quickly dismissed it as anything but supernatural.

2. that's some creepy management going on there - opening the office/bookshop selling stationaries at night. you sure the night school you attended to was actually there and not some Spirited Away thing o_O?

by the way, was a little confused. you first said that you were in primary school and then you went to SMK (indicates secondary). correct me if I'm wrong, do you mean that you went to a Chinese primary school and then advanced to a "kebangsaan" secondary school?

this bright green "entity" - was it emanating any light or it just light up like a pendaflour or more interestingly, was it "pulsating"?

what does this "entity" look like to you back then?

3. this event that you described, I'm a bit hard-pressed to believe that it was your "guardian" that alleviated you from the predicament you were in. you were in primary school so losing money (especially monies not belonging to you) is a big deal, the thought of serious repercussions filled your mind, you panicked and you lose focus. i prefer the explanation that because you lose focus, you got involved in an accident and then the sudden impact blacked you out.

obviously the driver in the van would pay you off because he was in a van and you were cycling and you were like 12 years old (at most?) - it's a payment to shut you up because if your parents file a police report, the driver in the van is going to be in a lot of trouble.

you would do the same if you were in an accident with a motorcyclist because either way, the motorcyclist can and will claim against your motoring insurance.

i'd be more convinced if you said you blacked out, fell and found the lost money on the ground. that's supernatural.

4. given that mass hysteria is a proven event that could commonly occur where there are groups of people gathering (such as camps etc), i'd wager that what she felt was the aftermath of a trigger event, a ripple (if you may).

You sure is mri ar? The magnet of the machine never suck out all the needles meh.
If you google, the force can pull oxygen tank across room.
When I was a student, the first thing they warn us is to remember to remove stethoscope before go in mri room because that machine can send the stethoscope flying across the room and kill people.

Well I did do an MRI on my lumbar not long after my X-Ray, it was for my slip disc. Totally forgot about the needle thingy until the thing started firing up. Then I thought well..this gonna be an eye opener.

But nope nothing untoward happen. Nothing flew out from my body, nothing showed up on the MRI.

Still the original X-Ray was weird, the doctor was an experienced guy, he's pretty sure it was a metallic object.

Anyway thanks for the tip

Yes, you taught me not to have too many photos on social media's. Where they can just download one and put needles on it.

Wishing the best to your family in the 2nd opportunity given.

God bless.