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post Apr 9 2020, 07:06 AM, updated 6y ago

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This last few days, I have observed the used R5 2600 is selling within 8 hours (from the posting date time) at LYN Garage sales..

At least 3 people is selling at this rate already, so I guess it is not a coincidence. biggrin.gif

I wonder why this CPU is such a popular hit now?

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post Apr 9 2020, 07:14 AM

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Cos theyrr cheap
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:17 AM

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Because it is indeed a cheaplug processor.
I sold it cheap too many months ago.
But I didn't open thread.
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM

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Just in case anyone WTB Ryzen 2600, I have another piece for sale.
PM me if you want.
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM

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How much should ayam sell i5-6500 + h270 itx mobo(damaged front usb3 pin)?
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM)
How much should ayam sell i5-6500 + h270 itx mobo(damaged front usb3 pin)?
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nobody wants a i5 6500 now, no matter how cheap u sell, I see 3 months in LYN sales...still no takers. laugh.gif

FYI, R3 2200G is about 10% faster than i5 6500, u see the point. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(syawalx @ Apr 9 2020, 07:14 AM)
Cos theyrr cheap
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cheap but no good, nobody wants.

it's cheap with relative good performance, that sells a product. brows.gif


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Intel in 2020 kek
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:53 AM

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Just sold mine on february, bought it for RM600, sold it for RM595 laugh.gif

used for 1 year
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM)
Just in case anyone WTB Ryzen 2600, I have another piece for sale.
PM me if you want.
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Used? How much?
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post Apr 9 2020, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Apr 9 2020, 07:55 AM)
Used? How much?
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Yes, used.

Couple months old. Can't recall exact date.
Less than a year, that's for sure.
Used in office for clerical staff.

PM me.
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post Apr 9 2020, 08:10 AM

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very good for its price
i also buy 1 used.
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post Apr 9 2020, 08:18 AM

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unker use i5 3470 in my old rig. at that time cost around RM600. 4c4t 3.2ghz base. Ryzen 5 2600 6c12t base clock 3.4ghz cost around RM500. So yeah, really value for money, especially 2nd hand one.
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QUOTE(versey @ Apr 9 2020, 07:06 AM)
This last few days, I have observed the used R5 2600 is selling within 8 hours (from the posting date time) at LYN Garage sales..

At least 3 people is selling at this rate already, so I guess it is not a coincidence.  biggrin.gif

I wonder why this CPU is such a popular hit now?

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if you observe those who selling intel CPU, they sell it at almost RRP price, for example, an 8700k, some of them still sell at 1.2 to 1.4k .... where i can top up and get a new 1...
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I'm looking the same proc.

Not buy yet lulz
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post Apr 9 2020, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 9 2020, 07:57 AM)
Yes, used.

Couple months old. Can't recall exact date.
Less than a year, that's for sure.
Used in office for clerical staff.

PM me.
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AMD processor to weak to do any real work ?

So now your clerical staff use i9-9900KS ?
Then only can get real work done ?


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post Apr 9 2020, 08:32 AM

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It is really bang for buck. I am using one.

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QUOTE(versey @ Apr 9 2020, 08:32 AM)
nobody wants a i5 6500 now, no matter how cheap u sell, I see 3 months in LYN sales...still no takers.  laugh.gif

FYI, R3 2200G is about 10% faster than i5 6500, u see the point.  biggrin.gif
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But ayam wan to save space lorr. Already got ryzen 2600.
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anyone selling 3700x? , thinking wanna upgrade mine

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Apr 9 2020, 08:31 AM)
AMD processor to weak to do any real work ?

So now your clerical staff use i9-9900KS ?
Then only can get real work done ?
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Office use cheaplug processor.
Sell Ryzen 2600 and get her Ryzen 3600.
Abuden?

Home gaming rig use high end i9.
Abuden?

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post Apr 9 2020, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 9 2020, 09:37 AM)
Office use cheaplug processor.
Sell Ryzen 2600 and get her Ryzen 3600.
Abuden?

Home gaming rig use high end i9.
Abuden?
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2600 to 3600 not much of an upgrade
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Apr 9 2020, 08:21 AM)
if you observe those who selling intel CPU, they sell it at almost RRP price, for example, an 8700k, some of them still sell at 1.2 to 1.4k .... where i can top up and get a new 1...
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True.
Price syok sendiri macam Apple fan.

I'd buy used i7-7700 for rm500.
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QUOTE(alpha001 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:50 AM)
2600 to 3600 not much of an upgrade
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It is a routine "office policy" to keep the office workstation updated.
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post Apr 9 2020, 08:58 AM

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intel cpu price super solid in second hand market. Don't ask why even I know the answer.

amd cpu super suck in second hand market from day 1 until now even future also same.

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QUOTE(alpha001 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:50 AM)
2600 to 3600 not much of an upgrade
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 9 2020, 08:53 AM)
It is a routine "office policy" to keep the office workstation updated.
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Claim company money to buy the upgraded CPU, then sell old CPU second hand and pocket the money.
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:24 AM

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My ryzen 2600 is set at 4.1 ghz and slightly undervolted. Idle temp at 55° using cryorig h7 air cooler.
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QUOTE(Explictz @ Apr 9 2020, 07:53 AM)
Just sold mine on february, bought it for RM600, sold it for RM595 laugh.gif

used for 1 year
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ok la 1 year depreciate price for rm5 only
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QUOTE(nuvi @ Apr 9 2020, 09:20 AM)
Claim company money to buy the upgraded CPU, then sell old CPU second hand and pocket the money.
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Deh... my own company.
Left in right out also my money.

Whatever sold has to be recorded as well.
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:58 AM)
intel cpu price super solid in second hand market. Don't ask why even I know the answer.

amd cpu super suck in second hand market from day 1 until now even future also same.
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Maybe becoz there are too many security vulnerabilities in intel cpus sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:33 AM

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i got 2600. but i feel my cpu bottleneck my rtx 2070 abit at 1080p high fps.

how much can sell used 2600 now?

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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Apr 9 2020, 09:32 AM)
Maybe becoz there are too many security vulnerabilities in intel cpus  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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nope. The price extreme solid.
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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM)
How much should ayam sell i5-6500 + h270 itx mobo(damaged front usb3 pin)?
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Intel tak laku dah. Sell 100 i take lol
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Apr 9 2020, 09:34 AM)
nope. The price extreme solid.
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For poor pipu can buy, but for me i sked my bank password kena stolen. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Good CPU to get on a tight budget, won't get bottleneck unless you're pairing it with 2060S or 5700 or better.
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 9 2020, 09:33 AM)
i got 2600. but i feel my cpu bottleneck my rtx 2070 abit at 1080p high fps.

how much can sell used 2600 now?
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its known issue, thats why i sold my 2600 and get a 3800x instead and never look back.

if you dont have the budget, get 2600x and OC it or used 2700x
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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Apr 9 2020, 09:42 AM)
For poor pipu can buy, but for me i sked my bank password kena stolen.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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faking wrong.... those buyer all are big boss.


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QUOTE(alpha001 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:50 AM)
2600 to 3600 not much of an upgrade
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It's actually a huge upgrade when you consider the ram speed issue.
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Apr 9 2020, 09:49 AM)
faking wrong.... those buyer all are big boss.
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big boss haha
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Apr 9 2020, 10:42 AM)
Good CPU to get on a tight budget, won't get bottleneck unless you're pairing it with 2060S or 5700 or better.
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QUOTE(Explictz @ Apr 9 2020, 10:48 AM)
its known issue, thats why i sold my 2600 and get a 3800x instead and never look back.

if you dont have the budget, get 2600x and OC it or used 2700x
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Max/best gpu to pair with?
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:58 AM)
intel cpu price super solid in second hand market. Don't ask why even I know the answer.

amd cpu super suck in second hand market from day 1 until now even future also same.
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Hahahahahahahahahaha

You must not read the news
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:02 AM

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i7 2600 > all
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 10:35 AM)
Max/best gpu to pair with?
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For 2600?

1070 if u are on vanilla and ram 3000mHz and above (my previous spec was 2600 paired with 1070ti and 3200mHz 16gb ddr4, no issue until i upgraded to 2080Ti so i sold both cpu and gpu)

if you OC-ed, 1080 can perform well provided that your ram is above 3200mHz

If you Oc-ed and prefer newer cards, RTX 2060 is fine.

edit : word

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Apr 9 2020, 11:02 AM)
i7 2600 > all
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Just did some research. R5 2600 is basically better than an overclocked i7 2600k. At that price and power consumption, no wonder it's selling that fast.
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intel realiability is good

amd... go amd forum software section take a look

I'm using RX 5700 XT, their 2020 driver got a lot serious issues, stuck using 2019 ver now. amd not able to release a stable release, macam releasing beta driver as stable.

3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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QUOTE(Explictz @ Apr 9 2020, 12:06 PM)
For 2600?

1070 if u are on vanilla and ram 3000mHz and above (my previous spec was 2600 paired with 1070ti and 3200mHz 16gb ddr4, no issue until i upgraded to 2080Ti so i sold both cpu and gpu)

if you OC-ed, 1080 can perform well provided that your ram is above 3200mHz

If you Oc-ed and prefer newer cards, RTX 2060 is fine.

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So upgrade to rtx 2060 super ok?
Currently: non OC ryzen2600, 3066mhz 1.35v Oc-ed Ram, OCed 13.56% gtx 1660, 520w m2 seasonic psu.
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Cause edi upgraded to I9. That y sell cheap.
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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 11:36 AM)
So upgrade to rtx 2060 super ok?
Currently: non OC ryzen2600, 3066mhz 1.35v Oc-ed Ram, OCed 13.56% gtx 1660, 520w m2 seasonic psu.
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thats alright, if you have the budget, get a better ram
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R5 3600 better IPC wor sad.gif
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Apr 9 2020, 11:20 AM)
3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 9 2020, 08:37 AM)
Office use cheaplug processor.
Sell Ryzen 2600 and get her Ryzen 3600.
Abuden?

Home gaming rig use high end i9.
Abuden?
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abu ur hai meh diu
no money say no money la diu
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Apr 9 2020, 11:20 AM)
intel realiability is good

amd... go amd forum software section take a look

I'm using RX 5700 XT, their 2020 driver got a lot serious issues, stuck using 2019 ver now. amd not able to release a stable release, macam releasing beta driver as stable.

3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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radeon driver always got issue , amd cpu never
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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM)
How much should ayam sell i5-6500 + h270 itx mobo(damaged front usb3 pin)?
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pm best price for your mobo only
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Ryzen main advantage is 3 things:

1) Price

2) Motherboard compatibility - You can use the same AM4 motherboard with 2nd gen and 3rd gen Ryzen cpu's. Heck now you using 6 core ryzen 5 2600 processor, in few years you can upgrade that Ryzen cpu to a 16 core Ryzen 9 3950X (when prices come down)

3) Core count, before Ryzen came in the picture, people were happy with 4 cores, and each year AMD is just pushing the core count even higher. Who would have thought we would see 8 core processors in laptops nowadays.

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Apr 9 2020, 09:22 PM)
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Yeah, no money deswai sold 2600 to a /K and bought 3700x for office staff.
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QUOTE(harriss @ Apr 9 2020, 09:24 PM)
radeon driver always got issue , amd cpu never
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Yes, AMD CPU does act weird.

Let me give you an example.
AMD 6/12 cores/threads, AMD has problem handling 4 Android emulators with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. The emulators crash like no tomorrow once I open more than 3 emulators concurrently.
Intel 6/12 cores/threads, Intel has NO problem handling 6 Android emulators concurrently with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. No crash whatsoever.

Well, AMD CPU is cheap anyways. So, nothing to complain. It's meant to be cheap.

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 9 2020, 09:56 PM)
Ryzen main advantage is 3 things:

1) Price

2) Motherboard compatibility - You can use the same AM4 motherboard with 2nd gen and 3rd gen Ryzen cpu's. Heck now you using 6 core ryzen 5 2600 processor, in few years you can upgrade that Ryzen cpu to a 16 core Ryzen 9 3950X (when prices come down)

3) Core count, before Ryzen came in the picture, people were happy with 4 cores, and each year AMD is just pushing the core count even higher. Who would have thought we would see 8 core processors in laptops nowadays.
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Compatibility is not on AMD motherboard, compatibility per se.
Even until Year 2020, AMD still has weird issues on the motherboard.

Weird RAM timing and compatibility issues.
Weird slow boot up with NVME 3200R SSD (you can refer this https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4936761 )

I had changed 3x B450 motherboards for my staff due to weird issues on the motherboard. Weird boot up and cold boot (could be the RAM compatibility issue)
I changed from Gigabyte to MSI and eventually Asrock B450 Steel Legend.

I have NEVER encountered such issue on Intel chipset motherboard in the last 30 years (I upgrade every 1-2 generation of Intel processor).

P/S
As shared by JohnLai on above link
I never encountered such issue on Intel system, especially brand new motherboard.
It is just mindblowing to do this in Year 2020.
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Hey Guys,

New to the forums but experienced the same thing the rest of you had. Now, what was strange was when I first built my Ryzen 1700 with the MSI B350M Mortar Arctic everything was great! Boots were fast, crisp... updating was super quick. I was completely in love and happy to move away from my 6600k system. However, after using the MSI Command Center and changed CPU voltage setting that is where all my problems began. The moment I hit "apply" the system went dark, then booted back up into the bios. It seems from that moment on... POST started to take close to 20 seconds. Once the Windows logo was up, it was ready to go.

My second problem, though probably unrelated... Gears of War 4 would crash after just 10 minutes of game play. Every time I got a blue screen hinting at memory as being the issue.  I thought, well, maybe I just need to re-download Gears and try again. So, after several crashes having tried different things I uninstalled Gears and reinstalled it again. Same thing. The odd thing was that the rest of my Steam games wouldn't crash, not a one. DOOM, Street Fighter 5, Neir Automata (and it's known to be buggy), etc. Only Gears!

So that is when I started looking into thinking I may need a BIOS update for Ram compatibility and general fixes. I've updated the bios and still had the same 20 second boot time. Crazy. Another user suggested that perhaps storage could be the problem. After the update I reset the bios by removing the battery and killing all power to the system. So I unplugged all drives plugging them back in systematically powering the system on first to see what happens. And guess what, boot times came back to normal. My OS drive is a Samsung 850 Evo which I plugged in first. Rebooted, then plugged in my OCZ 400GB Steam SSD, normal boot still. Then my 2TB WD drive... and you guessed it... no more odd issues.  I haven't tested Gears 4 yet after the bios, I will soon. But at least for me.... completely resetting the bios, unplugging all drives and testing one by one worked for me.

*****TRY RESETTING YOUR BIOS AND REMOVING ALL DRIVES TESTING SYSTEMATICALLY EACH ONE*****  Hope this helps someone.
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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Apr 9 2020, 10:45 AM)
Hahahahahahahahahaha

You must not read the news
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Wake me up when Skylake or Kabylake i7 is cheap.

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intel realiability is good

amd... go amd forum software section take a look

I'm using RX 5700 XT, their 2020 driver got a lot serious issues, stuck using 2019 ver now. amd not able to release a stable release, macam releasing beta driver as stable.

3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 10 2020, 07:38 AM)
Yes, AMD CPU does act weird.

Let me give you an example.
AMD 6/12 cores/threads, AMD has problem handling 4 Android emulators with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. The emulators crash like no tomorrow once I open more than 3 emulators concurrently.
Intel 6/12 cores/threads, Intel has NO problem handling 6 Android emulators concurrently with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. No crash whatsoever.

Well, AMD CPU is cheap anyways. So, nothing to complain. It's meant to be cheap.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 10 2020, 07:45 AM)
Compatibility is not on AMD motherboard, compatibility per se. 
Even until Year 2020, AMD still has weird issues on the motherboard.

Weird RAM timing and compatibility issues.
Weird slow boot up with NVME 3200R SSD (you can refer this https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4936761 )

I had changed 3x B450 motherboards for my staff due to weird issues on the motherboard. Weird boot up and cold boot (could be the RAM compatibility issue)
I changed from Gigabyte to MSI and eventually Asrock B450 Steel Legend.

I have NEVER encountered such issue on Intel chipset motherboard in the last 30 years (I upgrade every 1-2 generation of Intel processor).

P/S
As shared by JohnLai on above link
I never encountered such issue on Intel system, especially brand new motherboard.
It is just mindblowing to do this in Year 2020.
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even weird , my self on x470 and has built 4 of my friend ryzen all on b450 never encountered such issue but latest AGESA code is a bugfest i heard hahahhaa tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 10 2020, 07:38 AM)
Yes, AMD CPU does act weird.

Let me give you an example.
AMD 6/12 cores/threads, AMD has problem handling 4 Android emulators with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. The emulators crash like no tomorrow once I open more than 3 emulators concurrently.
Intel 6/12 cores/threads, Intel has NO problem handling 6 Android emulators concurrently with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. No crash whatsoever.

Well, AMD CPU is cheap anyways. So, nothing to complain. It's meant to be cheap.
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Maybe AMD does not allow core allocation more than its physical cores.

I could test the same scenario for you if you want. I got 12 cores. Maybe 6 instances?

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This cpu is good. Basically it will tapau all of intel older 4 core cpu offerings while having the extra 2 cores and double the threads.

So yeah very good choice for most pc builders.

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if you observe those who selling intel CPU, they sell it at almost RRP price, for example, an 8700k, some of them still sell at 1.2 to 1.4k .... where i can top up and get a new 1...
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nobody wants a i5 6500 now, no matter how cheap u sell, I see 3 months in LYN sales...still no takers.  laugh.gif

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Lyn got cheap sale? More often than not, buying in lyn just like buying new - 15% only. Why waste time?
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Problem is not LYN or not....
it's basically Intel no value since Ryzen hype.....
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after shopping for used proc in the market, i'd say fuck intel

amd ryzen gooding, latest cpu also backward compatible with their mobo

intel released tons of lanjiao socket, and the best i could get for my socket 1150 is an used i7 4790 and it cost as much as new ryzen that performed much better

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:42 AM)
Problem is not LYN or not....
it's basically Intel no value since Ryzen hype.....
macam bagi free pun tak mau  laugh.gif
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No ppl sell cheap la... where got cheap? Only 2 cores Intel ppl throw. 4 cores still sell sky high price. If really cheap I would buy but no. All dreaming to change to Ryzen without much losses.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 10 2020, 11:44 AM)
No ppl sell cheap la... where got cheap? Only 2 cores Intel ppl throw. 4 cores still sell sky high price. If really cheap I would buy but no. All dreaming to change to Ryzen without much losses.
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then same as Nvidiot fag and apple fag.....
die die dont want to admit their overpriced toys are outclassed already....

Still remember when GTX970 asking price for 2nd hand was 1.5k laugh.gif
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Because AMD is trending now and smashing intel cpu to pieces

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:48 AM)
then same as Nvidiot fag and apple fag.....
die die dont want to admit their overpriced toys are outclassed already....

Still remember when GTX970 asking price for 2nd hand was 1.5k  laugh.gif
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GTX970 also before GST already less than RM1300 at the shop. Summore naik harga summore, real yahudi that one.
I probably sell off my Vega 56 for stupid low money also, I don't think got takers for one even at RM500
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:48 AM)
then same as Nvidiot fag and apple fag.....
die die dont want to admit their overpriced toys are outclassed already....

Still remember when GTX970 asking price for 2nd hand was 1.5k  laugh.gif
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GTX970 also before GST already less than RM1300 at the shop. Summore naik harga summore, real yahudi that one.
I probably sell off my Vega 56 for stupid low money also, I don't think got takers for one even at RM500
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:48 AM)
then same as Nvidiot fag and apple fag.....
die die dont want to admit their overpriced toys are outclassed already....

Still remember when GTX970 asking price for 2nd hand was 1.5k  laugh.gif
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That's why I'm still using 3rd gen Core i5. Buy cpu RM120 better than being ripped by these sellers. Why would you buy 4 cores i5 around 500-600 when you can buy 6 cores Ryzen? Only negative about Ryzen is expensive board. I don't care last time you buy for a thousand or what, need to compare with current pricing and technology. Let them rot with their cpu.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Apr 10 2020, 11:04 AM)
This cpu is good. Basically it will tapau all of intel older 4 core cpu offerings while having the extra 2 cores and double the threads.

So yeah very good choice for most pc builders.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 10 2020, 11:54 AM)
That's why I'm still using 3rd gen Core i5. Buy cpu RM120 better than being ripped by these sellers. Why would you buy 4 cores i5 around 500-600 when you can buy 6 cores Ryzen? Only negative about Ryzen is expensive board. I don't care last time you buy for a thousand or what, need to compare with current pricing and technology. Let them rot with their cpu.
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Actually 500-600 can get you 2nd hand complete system if you dont mind browsing full desktop section tongue.gif
mostly OEM opis PC, but still....it's not just CPU

as for Ryzen board, only X570 is expensive....X470 and B450 are very resonably priced IMO.
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anyone want i5-2500k? Stock voltage can go 4.5Ghz air.

single thread ipc can lawan 2600

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:58 AM)
Actually 500-600 can get you 2nd hand complete system if you dont mind browsing full desktop section tongue.gif
mostly OEM opis PC, but still....it's not just CPU

as for Ryzen board, only X570 is expensive....X470 and B450 are very resonably priced IMO.
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Those oem ah... don't want. Crazy overpriced power supply. Like my uncle buy Lenovo, the special 14pin power supply. Luckily I browse Lazada and managed to find a shop near me that sell the converter. Ngam2 the shop also deal with used oem, probably that is why he stock them in case need to change psu.

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anyone want i5-2500k? Stock voltage can go 4.5Ghz air.

single thread ipc can lawan 2600

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Cannot go wrong with any CPU after Phenom II and i5-2500 for gaming la.....
CPU demand havent really increased up to this point.
IMO, you upgrade mainly for platform features like NVMe only.
Otherwise, old i5-2500 can play any game just fine provided you pair with the right GPU
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i hv stopped following master race. lazy to do research abt it. mine 4690k still rocks. so whos leading the race in cpu now?? is it true amd has surpassed intel?
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 12:05 PM)
Cannot go wrong with any CPU after Phenom II and i5-2500 for gaming la.....
CPU demand havent really increased up to this point.
IMO, you upgrade mainly for platform features like NVMe only.
Otherwise, old i5-2500 can play any game just fine provided you pair with the right GPU
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Phenom2 cannot la...
Bought a phenom2 for my mom last time. Regret didn't bought Intel. Just slightly cheaper only but lots of problem. Heat is one, fan damn noisy. Secondly is it seem slow compared to comparable Intel. Also recommended uncle a unit but same problem. It doesn't age as well as Intel for whatever reason.
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QUOTE(gx_azam @ Apr 10 2020, 12:06 PM)
i hv stopped following master race. lazy to do research abt it. mine 4690k still rocks. so whos leading the race in cpu now?? is it true amd has surpassed intel?
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Hard to say who won. If Intel would just goto TSMC or Samsung then they would have 7nm die shrink. However Intel is too proud for that. Still with 14nm, 10nm next year IIRC. 7nm dont know when. AMD didnt win but TSMC played a big part.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 10 2020, 11:38 AM)
Lyn got cheap sale? More often than not, buying in lyn just like buying new - 15% only. Why waste time?
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Problem is not LYN or not....
it's basically Intel no value since Ryzen hype.....
macam bagi free pun tak mau  laugh.gif
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No ppl sell cheap la... where got cheap? Only 2 cores Intel ppl throw.
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Ayam selling dual core Haswell at RM50. Cheaper than AliExpress. But nobody wants to buy.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 10 2020, 07:45 AM)
Compatibility is not on AMD motherboard, compatibility per se. 
Even until Year 2020, AMD still has weird issues on the motherboard.

Weird RAM timing and compatibility issues.
Weird slow boot up with NVME 3200R SSD (you can refer this https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4936761 )

I had changed 3x B450 motherboards for my staff due to weird issues on the motherboard. Weird boot up and cold boot (could be the RAM compatibility issue)
I changed from Gigabyte to MSI and eventually Asrock B450 Steel Legend.

I have NEVER encountered such issue on Intel chipset motherboard in the last 30 years (I upgrade every 1-2 generation of Intel processor).

P/S
As shared by JohnLai on above link
I never encountered such issue on Intel system, especially brand new motherboard.
It is just mindblowing to do this in Year 2020.
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I always advise people go with intel, there is a reason intel can charge a premium price. But for the price, ryzen is also not bad these days.

Of course to me definitely intel > AMD at the moment.
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Does it make sense to upgrade to a Ryzen 3950x using a b450 gigabyte motherboard? I waiting for when it half the price.
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 10 2020, 12:28 PM)
I always advise people go with intel, there is a reason intel can charge a premium price. But for the price, ryzen is also not bad these days.

Of course to me definitely intel > AMD at the moment.
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Nowadays amd already surpass intel in price/performance/value.
No point pay intel premium price, since its use the same architecture since skylake.


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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Apr 10 2020, 12:32 PM)
Nowadays amd already surpass intel in price/performance/value.
No point pay intel premium price, since its use the same architecture since skylake.
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Not really, just go online and see the issues surrounding AMD processors, from micro stutters, to it not being optimize for specific application, to not as good battery life as intel (even though they are using smaller chip size).


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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 10 2020, 12:26 PM)
Ayam selling dual core Haswell at RM50. Cheaper than AliExpress. But nobody wants to buy.
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Like I said, people only dump dual core. Dual core is reaching bottleneck now. Windows now require quad core at the very least considering how much resources they consume.
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 10 2020, 12:42 PM)
Not really, just go online and see the issues surrounding AMD processors, from micro stutters, to it not being optimize for specific application, to not as good battery life as intel (even though they are using smaller chip size).


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Bro,

Laptop AMD still stuck with Zen 1st gen. Even the latest one 3000 series is just a Zen+. 4000 series is Zen2 based which is the major leap but you have to wait until late Q2 or early Q3. 4000 series also mark 6 cores medium class instead of 4 cores. This is where it will start to shine.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 10 2020, 02:41 PM)
Like I said, people only dump dual core. Dual core is reaching bottleneck now. Windows now require quad core at the very least considering how much resources they consume.
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i don't see any bottleneck with daily web surfing and word processing. even LGA775 pentium is overkill for my dad to read online news.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 10 2020, 02:54 PM)
i don't see any bottleneck with daily web surfing and word processing. even LGA775 pentium is overkill for my dad to read online news.
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No... it had reached a turning point. I also got a 775 but it's a Q9650. It multitask better than my core i3 3220 when I used it to torrent and as HTPC. That's one of reason I bought a used 3570 to replace my i3. Chrome run smoother and audio stuttering that I experienced is gone.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 10 2020, 02:54 PM)
i don't see any bottleneck with daily web surfing and word processing. even LGA775 pentium is overkill for my dad to read online news.
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LGA 775......brings back memories...... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 10 2020, 03:18 PM)
No... it had reached a turning point. I also got a 775 but it's a Q9650. It multitask better than my core i3 3220 when I used it to torrent and as HTPC. That's one of reason I bought a used 3570 to replace my i3. Chrome run smoother and audio stuttering that I experienced is gone.
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Not everyone multitask with torrent + 4K video playback. There is market for different segment of workers. Some people just want a retro build for old GBA emulator or even DOS game. Your average grandma also doesn't need a Threadripper for checking gomen subsidy. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gx_azam @ Apr 10 2020, 12:06 PM)
i hv stopped following master race. lazy to do research abt it. mine 4690k still rocks. so whos leading the race in cpu now?? is it true amd has surpassed intel?
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If you have your 4690k oc to at least 4.3 and above, you will have ST power sufficient to drive most modern games that are not called ass creed/battlefield/rainbow six open world games.

AMD leading in core counts but still losing out in latencies which gives intel the slight nod in gaming performance at the very high end.

When next XBox and Ps come out, then you will need to move up to 8cores too.
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Buy Inspira 2.0P first  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 12:05 PM)
Cannot go wrong with any CPU after Phenom II and i5-2500 for gaming la.....
CPU demand havent really increased up to this point.
IMO, you upgrade mainly for platform features like NVMe only.
Otherwise, old i5-2500 can play any game just fine provided you pair with the right GPU
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monster hunter 100% cpu load on phenom ii x6.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Apr 10 2020, 11:48 PM)
monster hunter 100% cpu load on phenom ii x6.
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Should have gotten Magny Cours aka Phenom II X12 brows.gif
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better to get ryzen 1000 if no budget.
i sold my x6 for rm250 with mobo, hyper 612s and 12GB of ram.
on second thought, maybe should have kept the 612s and mod it on my gpu.
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AMD processor in demand now, especially Ryzen 5 then Ryzen 7.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 10 2020, 02:47 PM)
Bro,

Laptop AMD still stuck with Zen 1st gen. Even the latest one 3000 series is just a Zen+. 4000 series is Zen2 based which is the major leap but you have to wait until late Q2 or early Q3. 4000 series also mark 6 cores medium class instead of 4 cores. This is where it will start to shine.
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I think you don't get the point of the video, while amd is focusing on core count, intel is optimizing their processors so that it works better with applications. Sort of a quality > quantity example.
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 11 2020, 04:23 AM)
I think you don't get the point of the video, while amd is focusing on core count, intel is optimizing their processors so that it works better with  applications. Sort of a quality > quantity example.
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Back on Sandy Bridge to Kaby Lake, yes. They steamroll AMD. Sandy Bridge to beginning of Haswell is cheap too. They start raising prices on Devil's Canyon.

FX-9590 vs i7-6700K:
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1289?vs=1543

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-co...7-8700k/18.html

Now? Nope. You will pay more for less.
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And constant security vulnerability on Intel CPUs is lol.
https://www.google.com/search?q=intel+secur...chrome&ie=UTF-8

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post Apr 11 2020, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 11 2020, 04:23 AM)
I think you don't get the point of the video, while amd is focusing on core count, intel is optimizing their processors so that it works better with  applications. Sort of a quality > quantity example.
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Bro,

You're right with Intel working with software developers to optimise apps using their special instruction like mmx, sse, whatever it is now.

However you need to know now that the game has changed. Software developers are starting to change their codes to share loads across multiple cores especially so gaming.

I think the fact that we had hit a wall helped Intel so much. The fact that we had to run heavy intensive rendering to showed how much faster Ryzen is compared to Intel is what helping Intel to stay in the game despite being so far behind.

In the past, I would not have doubted your arguments because Intel has better IPC numbers. Their single core performance still solid. However its not single or dual core works anymore. It's a world of >6 cores now whether you need it or not. Intel doesn't has anything that scales as well as Ryzen. AMD had taken the right step to combat ARM but Intel is still sleeping because they had the cash to cartel the whole PC industry to go along with it. PC industry need to wake up. It's not AMD vs Intel anymore. It's X86 vs RISC and thanks to AMD, they are still in the fight.
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QUOTE(versey @ Apr 9 2020, 07:38 AM)
cheap but no good, nobody wants.

it's cheap with relative good performance, that sells a product.  brows.gif
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Well the question is why is it selling, it is a good product
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I got one 2600 in my unused HTPC. Those who want to play games at 1080p, this CPU is absolutely perfect when coupled with GTX1070 and above.
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 12 2020, 07:46 AM)
I got one 2600 in my unused HTPC. Those who want to play games at 1080p, this CPU is absolutely perfect when coupled with GTX1070 and above.
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best value vs performance is rx 470, rx570 and rx 580 for 1080p (medium to high)

of course 2600 and rx 580 8gb is best pair. biggrin.gif

Nvidia GPU can eat shit for used market. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 10 2020, 08:37 AM)
This one.
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual...age-all-in-one/

You have to install all.

Maybe AMD does not allow core allocation more than its physical cores.

I could test the same scenario for you if you want. I got 12 cores. Maybe 6 instances?
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Yes, you can't assign more than its physical cores for AMD.

 

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