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 This used CPU is selling within 8 hours from LYN.

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post Apr 9 2020, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Apr 9 2020, 10:42 AM)
Good CPU to get on a tight budget, won't get bottleneck unless you're pairing it with 2060S or 5700 or better.
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QUOTE(Explictz @ Apr 9 2020, 10:48 AM)
its known issue, thats why i sold my 2600 and get a 3800x instead and never look back.

if you dont have the budget, get 2600x and OC it or used 2700x
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Max/best gpu to pair with?
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post Apr 9 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:58 AM)
intel cpu price super solid in second hand market. Don't ask why even I know the answer.

amd cpu super suck in second hand market from day 1 until now even future also same.
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Hahahahahahahahahaha

You must not read the news
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:02 AM

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i7 2600 > all
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 10:35 AM)
Max/best gpu to pair with?
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For 2600?

1070 if u are on vanilla and ram 3000mHz and above (my previous spec was 2600 paired with 1070ti and 3200mHz 16gb ddr4, no issue until i upgraded to 2080Ti so i sold both cpu and gpu)

if you OC-ed, 1080 can perform well provided that your ram is above 3200mHz

If you Oc-ed and prefer newer cards, RTX 2060 is fine.

edit : word

This post has been edited by Explictz: Apr 9 2020, 11:08 AM
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Apr 9 2020, 11:02 AM)
i7 2600 > all
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Just did some research. R5 2600 is basically better than an overclocked i7 2600k. At that price and power consumption, no wonder it's selling that fast.
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:20 AM

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intel realiability is good

amd... go amd forum software section take a look

I'm using RX 5700 XT, their 2020 driver got a lot serious issues, stuck using 2019 ver now. amd not able to release a stable release, macam releasing beta driver as stable.

3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Explictz @ Apr 9 2020, 12:06 PM)
For 2600?

1070 if u are on vanilla and ram 3000mHz and above (my previous spec was 2600 paired with 1070ti and 3200mHz 16gb ddr4, no issue until i upgraded to 2080Ti so i sold both cpu and gpu)

if you OC-ed, 1080 can perform well provided that your ram is above 3200mHz

If you Oc-ed and prefer newer cards, RTX 2060 is fine.

edit : word
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So upgrade to rtx 2060 super ok?
Currently: non OC ryzen2600, 3066mhz 1.35v Oc-ed Ram, OCed 13.56% gtx 1660, 520w m2 seasonic psu.
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:37 AM

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Cause edi upgraded to I9. That y sell cheap.
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 11:36 AM)
So upgrade to rtx 2060 super ok?
Currently: non OC ryzen2600, 3066mhz 1.35v Oc-ed Ram, OCed 13.56% gtx 1660, 520w m2 seasonic psu.
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thats alright, if you have the budget, get a better ram
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:54 AM

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R5 3600 better IPC wor sad.gif
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Apr 9 2020, 11:20 AM)
3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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Always install C++ and .Net packs for fresh Windows installs. I never get any issues.
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 9 2020, 08:37 AM)
Office use cheaplug processor.
Sell Ryzen 2600 and get her Ryzen 3600.
Abuden?

Home gaming rig use high end i9.
Abuden?
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abu ur hai meh diu
no money say no money la diu
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Apr 9 2020, 11:20 AM)
intel realiability is good

amd... go amd forum software section take a look

I'm using RX 5700 XT, their 2020 driver got a lot serious issues, stuck using 2019 ver now. amd not able to release a stable release, macam releasing beta driver as stable.

3 months ago upgraded my i3-8100 to ryzen 5 3600, last week i upgraded it to ryzen 9 3950x.

amd chipset driver also got issue, this driver installer rely on Microsoft Visual C++ Redist, but the installer itself doesn't come with this, so if your clean installed windows, 1st thing you gonna do is install the c++ redis baru can install amd chipset driver.... many ppl in forum facing this issue not even know why the chipset software give error
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radeon driver always got issue , amd cpu never
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:27 PM

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So this is why some b450moboprice up n less stock la
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Here to buy @ Apr 9 2020, 07:23 AM)
How much should ayam sell i5-6500 + h270 itx mobo(damaged front usb3 pin)?
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pm best price for your mobo only
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:56 PM

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Ryzen main advantage is 3 things:

1) Price

2) Motherboard compatibility - You can use the same AM4 motherboard with 2nd gen and 3rd gen Ryzen cpu's. Heck now you using 6 core ryzen 5 2600 processor, in few years you can upgrade that Ryzen cpu to a 16 core Ryzen 9 3950X (when prices come down)

3) Core count, before Ryzen came in the picture, people were happy with 4 cores, and each year AMD is just pushing the core count even higher. Who would have thought we would see 8 core processors in laptops nowadays.

This post has been edited by kuci_mayong: Apr 9 2020, 09:57 PM
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post Apr 10 2020, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Apr 9 2020, 09:22 PM)
abu ur hai meh diu
no money say no money la diu
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Yeah, no money deswai sold 2600 to a /K and bought 3700x for office staff.
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post Apr 10 2020, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(harriss @ Apr 9 2020, 09:24 PM)
radeon driver always got issue , amd cpu never
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Yes, AMD CPU does act weird.

Let me give you an example.
AMD 6/12 cores/threads, AMD has problem handling 4 Android emulators with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. The emulators crash like no tomorrow once I open more than 3 emulators concurrently.
Intel 6/12 cores/threads, Intel has NO problem handling 6 Android emulators concurrently with 2 cores assigned to each emulator. No crash whatsoever.

Well, AMD CPU is cheap anyways. So, nothing to complain. It's meant to be cheap.

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 9 2020, 09:56 PM)
Ryzen main advantage is 3 things:

1) Price

2) Motherboard compatibility - You can use the same AM4 motherboard with 2nd gen and 3rd gen Ryzen cpu's. Heck now you using 6 core ryzen 5 2600 processor, in few years you can upgrade that Ryzen cpu to a 16 core Ryzen 9 3950X (when prices come down)

3) Core count, before Ryzen came in the picture, people were happy with 4 cores, and each year AMD is just pushing the core count even higher. Who would have thought we would see 8 core processors in laptops nowadays.
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Compatibility is not on AMD motherboard, compatibility per se.
Even until Year 2020, AMD still has weird issues on the motherboard.

Weird RAM timing and compatibility issues.
Weird slow boot up with NVME 3200R SSD (you can refer this https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4936761 )

I had changed 3x B450 motherboards for my staff due to weird issues on the motherboard. Weird boot up and cold boot (could be the RAM compatibility issue)
I changed from Gigabyte to MSI and eventually Asrock B450 Steel Legend.

I have NEVER encountered such issue on Intel chipset motherboard in the last 30 years (I upgrade every 1-2 generation of Intel processor).

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As shared by JohnLai on above link
I never encountered such issue on Intel system, especially brand new motherboard.
It is just mindblowing to do this in Year 2020.
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Hey Guys,

New to the forums but experienced the same thing the rest of you had. Now, what was strange was when I first built my Ryzen 1700 with the MSI B350M Mortar Arctic everything was great! Boots were fast, crisp... updating was super quick. I was completely in love and happy to move away from my 6600k system. However, after using the MSI Command Center and changed CPU voltage setting that is where all my problems began. The moment I hit "apply" the system went dark, then booted back up into the bios. It seems from that moment on... POST started to take close to 20 seconds. Once the Windows logo was up, it was ready to go.

My second problem, though probably unrelated... Gears of War 4 would crash after just 10 minutes of game play. Every time I got a blue screen hinting at memory as being the issue.  I thought, well, maybe I just need to re-download Gears and try again. So, after several crashes having tried different things I uninstalled Gears and reinstalled it again. Same thing. The odd thing was that the rest of my Steam games wouldn't crash, not a one. DOOM, Street Fighter 5, Neir Automata (and it's known to be buggy), etc. Only Gears!

So that is when I started looking into thinking I may need a BIOS update for Ram compatibility and general fixes. I've updated the bios and still had the same 20 second boot time. Crazy. Another user suggested that perhaps storage could be the problem. After the update I reset the bios by removing the battery and killing all power to the system. So I unplugged all drives plugging them back in systematically powering the system on first to see what happens. And guess what, boot times came back to normal. My OS drive is a Samsung 850 Evo which I plugged in first. Rebooted, then plugged in my OCZ 400GB Steam SSD, normal boot still. Then my 2TB WD drive... and you guessed it... no more odd issues.  I haven't tested Gears 4 yet after the bios, I will soon. But at least for me.... completely resetting the bios, unplugging all drives and testing one by one worked for me.

*****TRY RESETTING YOUR BIOS AND REMOVING ALL DRIVES TESTING SYSTEMATICALLY EACH ONE*****  Hope this helps someone.
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post Apr 10 2020, 07:52 AM

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