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Captain89
post Apr 6 2020, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Apr 6 2020, 04:59 PM)
So you are saying his mother suffered/died because of her son bad  karma?
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Dude this is so mess up
It's like getting dung just because of other people mistake
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post Apr 6 2020, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 06:58 PM)
karma things hard to explain. Not sure how they decide. For example, if spear is stubborn, police already asked him to stay at home but he still wanted to go out to meet his gf and dunno where did he contracted with the coronavirus and then infected his whole family.

Btw I am not sure why his closed one passed away. It could be due to heartbroken or stroke after canning his son or scolding him or whatsoever. If it's destined, you cannot avoid it. For example, if you are destined to get injured, the injury may come from anywhere. It does not mean if you're hiding inside your house then you won't be injured. Got lorry just rammed inside a house out of sudden.

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Never thought of coincidence that wrongly mistaken as karma
There are people escape from karma, what does that mean?
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post Apr 6 2020, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 07:14 PM)
You won't know it until your next life. It's not escaped, just it's not happened yet on your this life. You will pay it some other days. Becoming a buffalo cow also bad enough to be kissed by the lions all the time in the wild.
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Can you prove it that each on of us will be reincarnated after death? I mean till today no solid prove that there's will be next live biggrin.gif
Why we have to wait for karma that long, why not somewhere near
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post Apr 6 2020, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 08:03 PM)
It's like you try going into any place of worship and asking the people there to prove GOD?  ohmy.gif
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Uh, why not? Those people should know something right, or else what's the purpose of them worshipping
They will probably say "believe" rather than "proving"
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post Apr 6 2020, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 08:16 PM)
If now I bring you back to the Ming Dynasty, are you sure you can prove bacteria exist?
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Yes exist back then, might be extinct today depends on which types are you saying
What are you trying to prove? God exist back then, but not now?
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 08:57 PM)
Of course, now you know it exists. But if now I bring you back to Ming Dynasty but you don't even know how to build a microscope and hence if you tell people bacteria is real, they will say you are nonsense. What you cannot prove now does not mean no one can prove it with something physical in the future. Cannot be proven does not mean not to exist. Digest my words before you go to sleep tonight.
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Back in the days ok no microscope cannot tell it exisit, but when bacteria infected an individual there must be symptoms like sick, cold, flu. Some deadly strain caused death.
You said God exist, what can we see? What impact on human? Non
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 09:09 PM)
Comets don't do any impact on your life too but does it mean comets do not exist? You might not be having any chance to see any comets too during the ming dynasty.
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Comets we can see it clearly (if we get the chance) doesn't need to be proven. Everyone could see that
But God something ....we cant prove and see
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 09:22 PM)
No, You wont have any chance to see it also. Not you want to see then can see in the past. Even now also you also wont have a chance to see a comet with your own eyes right in the skies.
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It's okay cannot witness, go Google and search for comets, we can see that it
But god, please I can't see anything at all, how to prove that
Believe is another story
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 6 2020, 09:22 PM)
Ehipasiko - come and see for yourself.

The Dhamma taught by the Blessed One is not confined to just what, but also the ways, methods, paths that one needs to train to be able to verify it.

karma is a very complex topic.
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Train to be able to verify = more like train to believe that its there biggrin.gif
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 6 2020, 09:36 PM)
well... I am willing to give it a try but it's not everyone's cup of tea smile.gif
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It's okay...I respect your efforts smile.gif
No bad feeling
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 09:42 PM)
Ming dynasty you can google mer? Who knows 1000 years later people can prove? You can live long enough to wait or not? Now you go back ming dynasty and tell the people there in future people can go to moon, they will say you are nonsense.
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Cannn..after 1000 years, technologies will be among top even easier for people in future
There's no need to move backwards, we should move forward
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 6 2020, 09:42 PM)
never bad feeling

but just saying , if you are able to see for yourself how past is related to present and present to future, your view on the world, and thing you call "self" will definitely change.

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post Apr 6 2020, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 09:48 PM)
Not ask you to move backwards, just to tell you what cannot be proven now not necessarily not exist.

If now I tell you mco confirm will extend till the end of the month and I came from the future, will you believe? You won't right.
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What makes it that God can be proven in future but not now and the past? I can't accept lul smile.gif

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post Apr 6 2020, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Apr 6 2020, 09:56 PM)
You mean those Buddhist holy scriptures ,bible, Quran are fake?

Chrono-Trigger will angry you if you say yes. He doing lots of research on Buddhist holy scriptures  blush.gif
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IMO I can't say yes haha but neither
Different people, different opinions, different angle of view on something rite
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post Apr 6 2020, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 6 2020, 10:20 PM)
Such as?
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In believing that karma exist
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post Apr 6 2020, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 6 2020, 10:32 PM)
Like gravity , whether u believe or not , it’s irrelevant. When u jump off a cliff , you will fall to the ground. It does not discriminate. It’s a natural law

So u think your being in this world is a coincidence?
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Why not based on luck. When a person did something bad, coincidence that something bad happened and everyone call it karma ok, but this could be 50/50 where nothing happened to that person what do we call that?

Why mostly looked upon and humble individual die first instead of the bad ones?
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post Apr 6 2020, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 6 2020, 10:42 PM)
Please distinguish present world karma from karma which spans across generation.

Present world karma could be fitted into scientific model and natural law, but not karma over multi generation.

Multi generation karma is either untrue, or it is useless.
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post Apr 6 2020, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 6 2020, 11:01 PM)
My England not so powderful. What you say ?
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Paiseh autocorrect biggrin.gif
Your England way better than mine la
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post Apr 9 2020, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Apr 9 2020, 04:26 PM)
You are asking for normal memory of past events or past life?
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Haha of past life la what kind of question is this
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post Apr 9 2020, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 9 2020, 04:01 PM)
so how does one remember his past?
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There are people who remember their past
Its magical don't you think
I remembered one kid showed when bomb was planted during world war

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