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post Aug 13 2022, 12:00 AM

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Gosh! This one hell of a long thread.

Guess I have to start reading from page 1.

Oh well, kidding! Too lazy to do that. Lol!
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post Aug 13 2022, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(S @ Aug 8 2022, 09:03 PM)
Whether you want to think it's karma or fairy or God or Heaven, it doesn't matter as long as you are happy with it. That's belief which doesn't care about reality or truth. You are happy right, so is Christian or Muslim etc ...

Ghost? What's the difference with any religious beliefs? Many believers have some kind of experience be it ghost or God or karma ... So you need to ask yourself why you are not a Christian like Oglca or a Muslim like chatter77 or a Buddhist like Satanist/will4848? Everyone has their pet ideas ...
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Nope, of course, for it to be real, it must be able to explain the real world. Just you cannot comprehend due to low critical thinking. If there is no supernatural element in this world, then 1+1= is always 2. But that is not the case. Musa Aman can get its cases dropped without a trial. Bijan cannot get its cases dropped; next Monday, the court still insists that Bijan continue its appeal. If karma does not exist, Bijan's cases have already been dropped long ago, like Musa, Peter and Ex-spy. This is because each person's karmic debt is different and hence a different outcome. If there is no karma, then there is no karmic debt, and most outcomes are supposed to be the same.

It does not matter Chatter77, Will4848 or OlgaC4; their belief has similarity involving supernatural elements. If ghostly is supernaturally proven, there is no reason why the creator is not possible.

And you said even if karma is real and you cannot remember, making it useless is also wrong. You don't have to remember everything. You already know, for example, that the suffering of those Rohingya is real. That is enough. The creator cannot let you remember so that you don't live on with revenge on your past enemies all your lives. I believe karma is just a law; whether or not you will fear the law is irrelevant to its function. It's your free will to choose to be a moral or an immoral person, and you reap what you sow.

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post Aug 16 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 13 2022, 09:37 AM)
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Nope, of course, for it to be real, it must be able to explain the real world. Just you cannot comprehend due to low critical thinking. If there is no supernatural element in this world, then 1+1= is always 2. But that is not the case. Musa Aman can get its cases dropped without a trial. Bijan cannot get its cases dropped; next Monday, the court still insists that Bijan continue its appeal. If karma does not exist, Bijan's cases have already been dropped long ago, like Musa, Peter and Ex-spy. This is because each person's karmic debt is different and hence a different outcome. If there is no karma, then there is no karmic debt, and most outcomes are supposed to be the same. 

It does not matter Chatter77, Will4848 or OlgaC4; their belief has similarity involving supernatural elements. If ghostly is supernaturally proven, there is no reason why the creator is not possible.

And you said even if karma is real and you cannot remember, making it useless is also wrong. You don't have to remember everything. You already know, for example, that the suffering of those Rohingya is real. That is enough. The creator cannot let you remember so that you don't live on with revenge on your past enemies all your lives. I believe karma is just a law; whether or not you will fear the law is irrelevant to its function. It's your free will to choose to be a moral or an immoral person, and you reap what you sow.
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If it does not matter, why you are not a Muslim yet?
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post Aug 17 2022, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 13 2022, 09:37 AM)
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Nope, of course, for it to be real, it must be able to explain the real world. Just you cannot comprehend due to low critical thinking. If there is no supernatural element in this world, then 1+1= is always 2. But that is not the case. Musa Aman can get its cases dropped without a trial. Bijan cannot get its cases dropped; next Monday, the court still insists that Bijan continue its appeal. If karma does not exist, Bijan's cases have already been dropped long ago, like Musa, Peter and Ex-spy. This is because each person's karmic debt is different and hence a different outcome. If there is no karma, then there is no karmic debt, and most outcomes are supposed to be the same. 

It does not matter Chatter77, Will4848 or OlgaC4; their belief has similarity involving supernatural elements. If ghostly is supernaturally proven, there is no reason why the creator is not possible.

And you said even if karma is real and you cannot remember, making it useless is also wrong. You don't have to remember everything. You already know, for example, that the suffering of those Rohingya is real. That is enough. The creator cannot let you remember so that you don't live on with revenge on your past enemies all your lives. I believe karma is just a law; whether or not you will fear the law is irrelevant to its function. It's your free will to choose to be a moral or an immoral person, and you reap what you sow.
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1 + 1 is always 2.
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:31 AM

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sus will never understand no matter how I explain; that is why you don't appreciate any supernatural law and hate all religions.
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:31 AM)
sus will never understand no matter how I explain; that is why you don't appreciate any supernatural law and hate all religions.
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Please don't exaggerate. I don't hate religions. I just think they haven't proven themselves, therefore it's unfair to impose on mankind. I'm not imposing that mankind not allowed to believe

Supernatural must be proven not asserted.

Thank you for learning from me
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post Aug 17 2022, 10:45 AM

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If there is no supernatural law, your Bijan would be still enjoying life outside like Musa, ex spy and peter. I doubt Bijan would not be getting restless nights starting from yesterday.

The first female chief judge. The power of karma to put those 5 judges there to uphold justice. Sus will not have the intellectual capacity to comprehend.

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:45 AM)
If there is no supernatural law, your Bijan would be still enjoying life outside like Musa, ex spy and peter. I doubt Bijan would not be getting restless nights starting from yesterday.

The power of karma to put that 5 judges there to uphold justice. Sus will never be able to understand.
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Coz u talk moo moo. I don't understand moo moo talk
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ramz @ Aug 17 2022, 09:45 AM)
1 + 1 is always 2.
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Well actually it depends on what system you're adding in.

1+1=10 in a binary system....
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:45 AM)
If there is no supernatural law, your Bijan would be still enjoying life outside like Musa, ex spy and peter. I doubt Bijan would not be getting restless nights starting from yesterday.

The first female chief judge. The power of karma to put those 5 judges there to uphold justice. Sus will not have the intellectual capacity to comprehend.
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Your story telling is not reality, how many times you are reminded of that. It's just fun talk at best or just plain BS, everyone has one. Your fun talk is no different from thousands coffeeshop chit chats. Until you based them on evidence either from science or history or data or research or well studied philosophy etc ...


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QUOTE(Satanist @ Aug 17 2022, 11:09 AM)
Well actually it depends on what system you're adding in.

1+1=10 in a binary system....
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But still 2 because 10 binary = 2 decimal
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Satanist @ Aug 17 2022, 11:09 AM)
Well actually it depends on what system you're adding in.

1+1=10 in a binary system....
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No bro. It is still 2. The binary presentation is one-zero. Not ten.
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Aug 17 2022, 11:12 AM)
But still 2 because 10 binary = 2 decimal
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thats because u convert balik which is another operation by it self.

Similarly in a watch on your wrist 12+2= 2... LOL


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post Aug 17 2022, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Satanist @ Aug 17 2022, 11:16 AM)
thats because u convert balik which is another operation by it self.

Similarly in a watch on your wrist 12+2= 2... LOL
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Still 2, or if you prefer you can write in roman numeral or other languages, still 2. Maybe you are arguing for form instead of substance?


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post Aug 17 2022, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Aug 17 2022, 11:20 AM)
Still 2, or if you prefer you can write in roman numeral or other languages, still 2. Maybe you are arguing for form instead of substance?
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2 donest exist in binary system
Well it depends on u better know what the heck you're adding isnt it? Previously i posted if 20Celcius+20Celcisus=40Celcius?

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QUOTE(Satanist @ Aug 17 2022, 11:09 AM)
Well actually it depends on what system you're adding in.

1+1=10 in a binary system....
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Actually, the equation I brought up means that everything is always predictable if there is no supernatural element. But in real life, that is not the case! Ask the suspect, why Musan aman can drop his charges but not Bijan? Answer!

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QUOTE(Satanist @ Aug 17 2022, 11:23 AM)
2 donest exist in binary system
Well it depends on u better know what the heck you're adding isnt it? Previously i posted if 20Celcius+20Celcisus=40Celcius?
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Okay, you want to argue about the form, not substance then. Here as far as I can tell, we are talking about value, not Arabic or binary.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 17 2022, 11:24 AM)
Actually, the equation I brought up means that everything is always predictable if there is no supernatural element. But in real life, that is not the case! Ask the suspect, why Musan aman can drop his charges but not Bijan? Answer!
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No such equation exists. Hence you brought it up you must be delusional, as usual ...
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:31 AM

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When getting cancer or rebirth as hyena also spur will say just coincidence only. just coincidence. laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2022, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Aug 17 2022, 11:27 AM)
Okay, you want to argue about the form, not substance then. Here as far as I can tell, we are talking about value, not Arabic or binary.
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Just saying there are more 1 perspective to look at a subject.

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