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post Jul 9 2008, 02:47 PM

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Higher clocks means more power is required. That is why you may need a better power supply. Since you already said you can't go further on the other thread with 1 GPU then the problem is on your setup. Just wait for the sifus to point where your problem is. hehe

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post Jul 9 2008, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 9 2008, 01:57 PM)
Hi guys I just joined the Q6600 G0 bandwagon.

Appreciate some tips to improve my overclock:

Processor: Q6600 G0 currently running at 3.0 ghz  333x9 (tested with 12 hours prime) using HyperTX cooler and 1.365 voltage
Motherboard: Asus P5KR with vdroop pencil mod
RAM: 2 x 1gb Team Xtreem RAM DDR2 1066 running at 667 mhz (for troubleshooting first) at 5-5-5-15 at Auto Voltage
PSU: Gigabyte 850 W Odin
GFX: 2x4850 Crossfire (non oced)

Right now 3.0ghz is fine. Temps are around 47C Idle but jumps up to 69C ish after about an hour of priming based on Speedfan. A bit concerned about temperature.

A note that before the pencil mod, I could not get my overclock higher than 2.8ghz as the voltage kept on fluctuating.

But if I try to run it at 3.2 ghz I'll get an error at Core 2 using Prime(that is 0,1,2,3).  Tried increasing the voltage but still received the error within a few minutes of running even at 1.425 V

Have I really hit the limit of my processor or is the mobo to blame or my pencil mod? Please note that without the pencil mod I could not even get up to 3.0ghz.
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Q6600 G0 shouldn't need any pencil mod to OC higher...... what's your vcore in bios, windows idle and prime95 stress?

What's the VID of the Q6600? Use core temp to see the core temperature and also the VID.

Even my G0 with a high VID can run at 1.312-1.328v at 3.2Ghz at load.

Did you check for your max FSB of your mobo using those settings? It could be that your NB strap is set to a lower mhz....
Try running your CPU at a lower multiplier and only OC the FSB, just to make sure you can go higher on the FSB....

Lastly, get a better HSF... wink.gif

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post Jul 9 2008, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 9 2008, 03:20 PM)
Q6600 G0 shouldn't need any pencil mod to OC higher...... what's your vcore in bios, windows idle and prime95 stress?

What's the VID of the Q6600? Use core temp to see the core temperature and also the VID.

Even my G0 with a high VID can run at 1.312-1.328v at 3.2Ghz at load.

Did you check for your max FSB of your mobo using those settings? It could be that your NB strap is set to a lower mhz....
Try running your CPU at a lower multiplier and only OC the FSB, just to make sure you can go higher on the FSB....

Lastly, get a better HSF...  wink.gif
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I'll give it a look up but my issue is not that the q6600 needs high voltage but whether my particular mobo has issues since it's reported that the Asus P5K series has significant droop issues. Before the pencil mod I simply could not push up to 3.0ghz

Thanks and i'll get back to you once I get home.
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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 9 2008, 04:14 PM)
I'll give it a look up but my issue is not that the q6600 needs high voltage but whether my particular mobo has issues since it's reported that the Asus P5K series has significant droop issues. Before the pencil mod I simply could not push up to 3.0ghz

Thanks and i'll get back to you once I get home.
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Same with my Gigabyte P35-DS3 and DFI Blood Iron.....

Both has almost similar significant - vdrop/vdroop.... sad.gif

As in my sig, here's mine vdrop/vdroop:
Bios set vcore : 1.400v
Windows idle : 1.376v
Windows load : 1.328v sweat.gif

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post Jul 9 2008, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 9 2008, 05:00 PM)
Same with my Gigabyte P35-DS3 and DFI Blood Iron.....

Both has almost similar significant - vdrop/vdroop....  sad.gif

As in my sig, here's mine vdrop/vdroop:
Bios set vcore : 1.400v
Windows idle : 1.376v
Windows load : 1.328v  sweat.gif
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Did you see this as an issue in achieving stable overclocks?
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post Jul 9 2008, 05:27 PM

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kmarc, almost 0.08V quite a lot, no wander why u need to set till 1.4v for 3.2G

i guess u need to do some pencil mod on ur gaygaybte lol........ hehe


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Q6600 already good enough ady la....
still need to overclock meh!
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post Jul 9 2008, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 9 2008, 05:08 PM)
Did you see this as an issue in achieving stable overclocks?
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Nope. Just that I have to set the vcore higher in BIOS.

Those figures are my current setting for the past errr.... 8 months? (ever since I got the Q6600)... no problems with stability so far.... that's after I stress with prime95 for 6 hours....

My rig is doing folding 16/7 to 24/7 all this time too... smile.gif

QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jul 9 2008, 05:27 PM)
kmarc, almost 0.08V quite a lot, no wander why u need to set till 1.4v for 3.2G

i guess u need to do some pencil mod on ur gaygaybte lol........ hehe
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Ya lor.... budget mobo ma...

Pencil mod? shocking.gif Me normal overclocker only la.... smile.gif


Added on July 9, 2008, 6:35 pm
QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Jul 9 2008, 05:29 PM)
Q6600 already good enough ady la....
still need to overclock meh!
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Yes. tongue.gif

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post Jul 9 2008, 06:37 PM

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Good news I reapplied thermal paste. After 20 minutes on priming temperatures is at 52-56 C. Is that more in the correct range?

I'll try retesting stability again on a higher overclock.
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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 9 2008, 06:37 PM)
Good news I reapplied thermal paste. After 20 minutes on priming temperatures is at 52-56 C. Is that more in the correct range?

I'll try retesting stability again on a higher overclock.
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That's better..... on my rig with my xigmatek S1283... I get max 65'c on prime95 "smallFFT" stress test (on a hot day)....

Usual folding results in a 60-62'c core temperature....
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My new P5E vdroop is scary. BIOS set 1.435, full load 1.36v. Used to be stable @ 3.5Ghz with 1.36 load. Now can't even boot @ 3.5Ghz. Running only @ 3.2Ghz now. Seriously need some pencil modding done.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Jul 9 2008, 08:29 PM)
My new P5E vdroop is scary. BIOS set 1.435, full load 1.36v. Used to be stable @ 3.5Ghz with 1.36 load. Now can't even boot @ 3.5Ghz. Running only @ 3.2Ghz now. Seriously need some pencil modding done.
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You mean you were previously running the same mobo and now the vdroop is more? hmm.gif
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i guess it's done on abit ip35 pro
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Yea, that was on Abit IP35 Pro. However it can't even boot @ 3.5Ghz with P5E even having same full load 1.36v as it was stable on IP35 Pro. Gonna do some pencil mod for vdroop see if it helps or not.
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Wow, after hearing all the sad stories I'm happy with mine, VID 1.25v and can do 3.25GHz with 1.26v in BIOS smile.gif

Maybe it's my board, a "GayGaybyte" P35-DQ6 LOL!

IMO it is easier to use 9x and a lower multi for everyday usage, easier to boot etc. A slight loss in performance won't be as bad as struggling with stability and heat issues.
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QUOTE(gregy @ Jul 10 2008, 02:26 AM)
Wow, after hearing all the sad stories I'm happy with mine, VID 1.25v and can do 3.25GHz with 1.26v in BIOS smile.gif

Maybe it's my board, a "GayGaybyte" P35-DQ6 LOL!

IMO it is easier to use 9x and a lower multi for everyday usage, easier to boot etc. A slight loss in performance won't be as bad as struggling with stability and heat issues.
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Wait I don't get it? Easier to use 9x and a lower multi? 9 x is the highest multi kan?
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i think he mean 8x is it?mine currently only do 3.00 ghz only.voltage in BIOS set at 1.265V.in ambient temperature around 24 C,proc temp lowest is 27C(idle) highest 59C(full load). using xigmatek HDT-S963+tuniq tx-2 + 1 more 12cm Silverstone FM123 (2600rpm) for my exhaust fan.no intake fan, coz dunno whre to put. using centurion 5 casing wif transparent side panel.

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Jul 9 2008, 09:37 PM)
Yea, that was on Abit IP35 Pro. However it can't even boot @ 3.5Ghz with P5E even having same full load 1.36v as it was stable on IP35 Pro. Gonna do some pencil mod for vdroop see if it helps or not.
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Hmmmmm....What about pumping more vcore and see? tongue.gif
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Hyde`fK, try to flash ur biso to maximus or rampage, it seems this give quite some boost for most p5E user. pencil mod later on lar,

well p5E is prone to serious vdroop in high setting.

but urs seems quite high, i remember my previous setting with q6600, i set 1.5 in bios still get 1.48x in idle and loading around 1.47x.

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QUOTE(Reuben @ Jul 10 2008, 07:15 AM)
Wait I don't get it? Easier to use 9x and a lower multi? 9 x is the highest multi kan?
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Oops, my bad. I meant highest multiplier and lower fsb. LOL!

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