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post Mar 28 2020, 04:09 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hello there!
I am currently looking for a gaming monitor but there are so many to choose.
I know that a lot of competitive gamer choose TN panel because of its refresh rate, but nowaday IPS panel also have 144hz and 1ms response time monitor.
I'm sometime a competitive gamer and sometime chillax haha. (elek jer boss).
So my question is what is the differences between a 144hz with 1ms of IPS panel and TN panel?
IPS with 144hz and 1ms VS TN with 144hz and 1ms.

Currently i am interested in these few monitor.
AOC G2590FX 25"
AOC AOC 24G2 24"
Acer KG241QA 24"
Acer KG251Q I 25"
Acer XF240Q P 25"

On a budget around RM600~8XX


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post Mar 28 2020, 04:13 PM

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I prefer IPS, color nice & accurate. Using 27" 2k IPS.

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post Mar 28 2020, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(azuradaniel @ Mar 28 2020, 05:13 PM)
I prefer IPS, color nice & accurate. Using 27" 2k IPS.
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Oic thx for your reply smile.gif but As stated I’m looking for the differences

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post Mar 28 2020, 05:02 PM

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Just read Pro and Con and then decide

https://pcmonitors.info/articles/lcd-panel-types-explored/
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post Mar 28 2020, 05:03 PM

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ips 144hz monitor under 800? with 1ms response time? joking is it?

get 165hz tn. asus vg25 should b around 900.

unless u need color correction, editing photo video for income, only think abt ips.

me myself now looking at LG 27GL850 which is said to be 1ms, but too much ghosting at 1ms. IPS nowdays at 4ms even ASUS TUF and ROG strix.

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post Mar 28 2020, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 28 2020, 06:02 PM)
Ok thx for replying
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post Mar 28 2020, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Fzeo @ Mar 28 2020, 06:03 PM)
ips 144hz monitor under 800? with 1ms response time? joking is it?

get 165hz tn. asus vg25 should b around 900.

unless u need color correction, editing photo video for income, only think abt ips.

me myself now looking at LG 27GL850 which is said to be 1ms, but too much ghosting at 1ms. IPS nowdays at 4ms even ASUS TUF and ROG strix.
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Dude no kidding.
And this Acer KG241QA 144hz 1ms already RM549
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/UM.UX1SM.A01

Even this Acer KG251Q 240hz with 1ms is already Rm859
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/UM.KX1SM.I01

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post Mar 28 2020, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Cloudi @ Mar 28 2020, 05:23 PM)
Dude no kidding.
And this Acer KG241QA 144hz 1ms already RM549
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/UM.UX1SM.A01

Even this Acer KG251Q 240hz with 1ms is already Rm859
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/UM.KX1SM.I01
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dude. that isn't IPS dude. no joking.
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post Mar 28 2020, 05:54 PM

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post Mar 28 2020, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Cloudi @ Mar 28 2020, 05:23 PM)
Dude no kidding.
And this Acer KG241QA 144hz 1ms already RM549
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/UM.UX1SM.A01

Even this Acer KG251Q 240hz with 1ms is already Rm859
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/MY/content/model/UM.KX1SM.I01
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those are TN panels...KG251Q is 75Hz not 240Hz, KG271B is the one with 240Hz

every monitor you're interested are TN panels except AOC 24G2, and it unfortunately can't even reach advertised 1ms on every overdrive mode. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MHdeDv9bqI
but out of all monitors you've listed, 24G2 is the BEST performer...with such competitive price, it does more than it could have offered.

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post Mar 28 2020, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Mar 28 2020, 07:38 PM)
those are TN panels...KG251Q is 75Hz not 240Hz, KG271B is the one with 240Hz

every monitor you're interested are TN panels except AOC 24G2, and it unfortunately can't even reach advertised 1ms on every overdrive mode. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MHdeDv9bqI
but out of all monitors you've listed, 24G2 is the BEST performer...with such competitive price, it does more than it could have offered.
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Note that even fast IPS panels like the one in the 27GL850 doesn't even hit 1ms at all sweat.gif

Although the tradeoffs from TN to IPS are really worth it IMHO icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 28 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Cloudi @ Mar 28 2020, 04:58 PM)
Oic thx for your reply smile.gif but As stated I’m looking for the differences
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IPS with 144hz and 1ms VS TN with 144hz and 1ms.
If spec & speed same, IPS better, normally people said IPS>TN>VA
Normally TN good for speed/performance(gaming) but IPS good for quality(suitable for photo & video editing), VA panel cheaper
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post Mar 29 2020, 12:33 PM

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Budget permits, then get IPS. How competitive are you? GOing for competition? Else, IPS.
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post Mar 29 2020, 12:36 PM

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colour accuracy, viewing angle and price. IPS is better but at a price.
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post Mar 29 2020, 02:16 PM

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as many have mentioned, IPS do not have 1ms response time, and even if stated 1ms, it is sort of simulated/boosted artificially and gives you more image degradation than improving it. True 4ms is the best you can get for IPS currently.
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post Mar 30 2020, 04:46 AM

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Alright guys. Thanks for all the reply! After reading all the reply from experts like y'all.
Conclusion,
IPS VS TN
Speed / slower / Faster
Color / Better / Good
Price /Expensive/ Cheaper

I work as a part timer (not anymore since convid-19) and money is tight for me and so on. So TN is the one i'm going for. Thanks again for helping a fellow guy that scare of making his decision.
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post Mar 30 2020, 04:55 AM

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Better go with IPS, you got better colour and viewing angle.

TN is old tech. (Don't buy this)

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post Mar 30 2020, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Cloudi @ Mar 28 2020, 04:09 PM)
Hello there!
I am currently looking for a gaming monitor but there are so many to choose.
I know that a lot of competitive gamer choose TN panel because of its refresh rate, but nowaday IPS panel also have 144hz and 1ms response time monitor.
I'm sometime a competitive gamer and sometime chillax haha. (elek jer boss).
So my question is what is the differences between a 144hz with 1ms of IPS panel and TN panel?
IPS with 144hz and 1ms VS TN with 144hz and 1ms.

Currently i am interested in these few monitor.
AOC G2590FX 25"
AOC AOC 24G2 24"
Acer KG241QA 24"
Acer KG251Q I 25"
Acer XF240Q P 25"

On a budget around RM600~8XX
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Get the 24G2 - it is an IPS 144Hz monitor, and is considered one of the best monitors for your budget icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 30 2020, 09:29 AM

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Acer vg270p
1080p 144hz 1ms ips <rm900
Remember buy dp cable.
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post Mar 30 2020, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Cloudi @ Mar 30 2020, 04:46 AM)
Alright guys. Thanks for all the reply! After reading all the reply from experts like y'all.
Conclusion,
            IPS      VS  TN
Speed / slower  /  Faster
Color  /  Better  /    Good
Price /Expensive/    Cheaper

I work as a part timer (not anymore since convid-19) and money is tight for me and so on. So TN is the one i'm going for. Thanks again for helping a fellow guy that scare of making his decision.
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post Mar 30 2020, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cloudi @ Mar 30 2020, 04:46 AM)
Alright guys. Thanks for all the reply! After reading all the reply from experts like y'all.
Conclusion,
            IPS       VS   TN
Speed / slower   /   Faster
Color  /  Better   /    Good
Price /Expensive/    Cheaper

I work as a part timer (not anymore since convid-19) and money is tight for me and so on. So TN is the one i'm going for. Thanks again for helping a fellow guy that scare of making his decision.
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AOC 24G2 you've listed is the best, and it's IPS, selling at RM759. unfortunately you're out of luck, a lot places edy sold out. unless any seller lurking here can help you get one.

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Mar 28 2020, 10:40 PM)
Note that even fast IPS panels like the one in the 27GL850 doesn't even hit 1ms at all sweat.gif

Although the tradeoffs from TN to IPS are really worth it IMHO icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 29 2020, 02:16 PM)
as many have mentioned, IPS do not have 1ms response time, and even if stated 1ms, it is sort of simulated/boosted artificially and gives you more image degradation than improving it. True 4ms is the best you can get for IPS currently.
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not only IPS, TN also usually cannot hit 1ms response time, unless switching to absurd overdrive modes that introduce significant undershoot and overshoot. usually with the best overdrive settings TN panels can hit a maximum average of 3ms, but only on some of the best TN monitors out there, for example HP Omen X 27 which is very expensive (about 3k) in malaysia, especially for a TN monitor.

see chart
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below is max overdrive
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undershoot and overshoot introduce inverse ghosting and corona artifacts
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post Mar 30 2020, 02:15 PM

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If all the spec are same, just go with IPS. Color really better than TN panel.
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post Mar 30 2020, 10:05 PM

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You guys seems to not understand.

IPS has best color reproduction potential BUT that doesn't mean it's accurate.

Straight out of the box - did you run color calibration tool? No? Then how you know is accurate?

Do you have a reference image that you can use to actually tell it's accurate or close to accurate? No? then how you know is accurate.

Many people assume IPS is accurate when it's not, many IPS are so poor that even with calibration tool already it's still not accurate.

Color better than TN? Let me ask you then, have you actually put them side by side? Or actually seen how the new TN models and even high end TN models are? They're so good now you put side by side even reference image, it's difficult to tell unless you spend a bit of time to try to pick out the hints on certain areas of an image........

AND YES - that is based on an image that YOU are familiar with, not just side by side a game. smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 30 2020, 10:05 PM)
You guys seems to not understand.

IPS has best color reproduction potential BUT that doesn't mean it's accurate.

Straight out of the box - did you run color calibration tool? No? Then how you know is accurate?

Do you have a reference image that you can use to actually tell it's accurate or close to accurate? No? then how you know is accurate.

Many people assume IPS is accurate when it's not, many IPS are so poor that even with calibration tool already it's still not accurate.

Color better than TN? Let me ask you then, have you actually put them side by side? Or actually seen how the new TN models and even high end TN models are? They're so good now you put side by side even reference image, it's difficult to tell unless you spend a bit of time to try to pick out the hints on certain areas of an image........

AND YES - that is based on an image that YOU are familiar with, not just side by side a game. smile.gif
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IPS for color accuracy, especially when you view the edge of a huge screen.
However, IPS glow and back light bleeding is lottery.

 

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