what if i book with philippines airlines and need to transit in manila but layover duration 22h? flight to NRT is with philippine airlines too

need to go through transit gate too if i plan to go out of airport?

or still can re-check in after i bring my luggage out?

i found airasia X has the route direct to haneda intl

but there's a note indicating pending government approval

i wonder whats the status/outcome if anyone has any ideas?

cuz its significantly cheaper than PAL

thats interesting, for AA still promote the route

and all they did to warn is to just place a small exclamation mark on the route selected, if no hover over cant see

means that they can reroute to NRT instead


** but since philippines airlines also not part of any alliance like the one u mentioned

yet they also offered HND as their route on top of NRT (verified via their FB post as well)

does that mean that they might reroute too?

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Oct 7 2022, 01:15 PM

thats some good insights!

thanks for clearing the air a little, at least now i am more certain that the rm100+ diff per pax may not worth the hassle of rerouting / cancellations

yeah i would have to agree thats too much of a risk to go with AA

but i think i would go with PAL instead so i can stop in MNL for a day, go visit their mall/casinos which is not too far away

almost same price as scoot too but with added luggage and snacks

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that said, anyone had experiences with PAL?

tripadvisor reviews seem like its worst than AA lmao

Alright. Booked the following:

Travel Date: 30/11/22 (reach 2pm noon) > 11/12/22 (Flight at 12am, on 11th), all local times
Duration: 11 nights

PAL - 30NOV22 KUL>MNL>HND
MH - 11DEC22 HND>KUL

I'm thinking of dividing the days as per follows:

1 night in Tokyo
3 nights in Osaka
1/2 night in Kyoto
1/2 nights in Nagoya
1 nights in Fuji
3 nights in Tokyo

First timer to Japan, would like to seek for suggestions on the time allocated suitable for basics for the cities?

I'm looking for mainly sightseeing / food with perhaps consideration for visiting major attractions i.e. Theme parks / etc

Just started to plan my schedule

Travelling in pair.

Am considering the JRPass 1 week, then final few days maybe more localized passes.

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Oct 8 2022, 12:09 AM

Yeah, I gave some thought about it and decided to forgo Nagoya / Osaka for now. I'll return again for these 2 especially after the expansion of the theme parks.

Kyoto though, I think I'd really want to spend some time there to just soak in the environment before the tourism returns.

Based on what I can find, Kyoto on pre-covid season, was a nightmare in terms of foot traffic.

So I have revised my plans as per below:

Considerations -
1. Pre-winter, so timing is not too cold yet (hopefully, climate change is a little more merciful).
2. I will be travelling mostly with train (I plan to take the 7 day JR Pass).
3. I will also be flying to/from Haneda.
4. I would like to go for hotsprings / theme parks (major ones, of course).
5. Food. I think I will be spending alot on those.
6. Shopping for clothes if applicable, I plan to travel with adequate clothing so I can buy some.

Cities/areas I plan to visit:
1. Tokyo (5 nights)
2. Mt.Fuji / Hakone region (2-3 nights)
3. Kyoto (2-3 nights)

I think this would be more reasonable compared to my previous plans which includes Osaka & Nagoya.

What do you guys think?

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Details:

Dates - 30Nov22 - 11Dec22
Flight - MH (HND>KUL) points; PAL (KUL>MNL>HND) RM1800, 2 pax
Hotels - Yet to be booked
Pass - JR Pass 7 days + Suica

Awesome! Thank you for the recommendation on the Fuji portion.

Quick question, we drive on the same side, and have driver seats at the same side as Japan correct?

So all that's needed is the international driving permit (Complete the form, surrender domestic license, pay RM150).

How's driving in Japan like? Similar to Mahresia?

Hmmmm, true for the possible situation. But I think driving won't be my primary consideration since its the first time for me to visit Japan.

What's your view on my previous post - for revised schedule / day allocations?

But I'd really love to go Kyoto though

i had mine in ueda, to be exact bessho onsen

private onsen in room

ryokan style

1.4k / night no dinner included but got breakfast

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Jan 10 2023, 01:14 PM

Personally, I've flown a few times with PAL.

Their in-plane experience from KUL > MNL is older fleet but still alright for me, more or less same like MAS.

But for longer trips such as (MNL > KIX; MNL > SYD; MNL > HND), I would say PAL is way better than MAS (took MAS business class, didn't even felt as wow compared to PAL economy for the price points).

The only thing is transit experience, if you can, go for either transit 1 full day (arrive morning, fly next morning); or as short as possible (< 3 hours). Anything in between 3 - 16 hours would not be recommended as the airport is rather small and nothing much for you to do.

Youtube reviews generally do not paint a full picture of the price point you pay (for full service airlines).

Of course, AirAsia might be slightly cheaper if buy early (about 1.3k return trip, but you still need to add luggage); but PAL includes luggage 30kg + meals + in flight entertainment (I bought mine for 1.5k return).

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Nov 21 2023, 12:47 PM

Leg room is plentiful, more if not same as MAS economy.

If you don't mind staying a night in Manila, its actually a very good deal if you manage to get its tickets.

Airport relatively close to Pasay (Mall of Asia, Newport casinos etc).

But do note that the airport terminal is not walkable to newport, need to take grab.


For PAL, I had WiFi free onboard, wasn't fast, but enough to text.

Right now Vietnam Airlines and Philippines Airlines have been selling seats for cheap for full service airlines, but between PAL and VNA, I prefer PAL.

No delays from them so far (small 5 - 10 minutes adjustments few weeks before flight), but VNA has been readjusting time by the hours (1-3 hours adjustments to original flight time).

Yeah, so far it has been hits for me hoping for no misses.

Though I would say with PAL my frequency of visit to MNL almost 10x, so PAL is doing their nation a favor too.

what do you mean by airline or self transit?

when you arrive the luggage will be auto transit to your next flight, so if your flight is delayed, your luggage will be too; when you are checking in at KLIA, you will be and should be issued 2 boarding passes, one is KUL > MNL; one is MNL > HND, so just head to the designated terminal/gate will do without your luggage when you reach NAIA

IMPORTANT: MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ISSUED 2 BOARDING PASS IN KLIA TO ENSURE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PICK UP YOUR LUGGAGE FROM THE MNL SIDE AND CHECK IN AGAIN FOR YOUR NEXT FLIGHT.

if you are referring to the risk of the airline delay, i dont think there's an answer to this as all airlines run the risk of delays and the next flight departs without you; should this happens you should reach out to the airline and they should be able to put you on the next flight based on availability

agreed in terms of the transit, hence i would recommend if the transit time is < 3 hours or overnight transit

whereas for the attitude wise in KLIA, i would guess it depends, for me it was pleasant, even for NAIA side

when i was taking my first flight to JP i wasnt sure whether the luggage policy / procedures, the staff there were very helpful, although not very welcoming because it was really busy timing, but i got things sorted out relatively quickly

second encounter was my flight to SYD when i was required to do luggage screening (AU/US requirement), they were more than happy to guide me through the process and was friendly

FOR TRANSIT - IF YOU HAVE LOUNGE KEY / DRAGON PASS IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR YOUR EXPERIENCE IN TRANSITING ESP FOR AU FLIGHTS AS YOU CAN KILL TIME THERE

yes correct, it is direct with them and as per below, always book direct with airlines itself especially if it involves transits


sorry to hear your experience, perhaps once the new airport is completed then you may reconsider again