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post Nov 15 2022, 02:55 PM

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hi
chance upon this thread

1st time planning free and easy

need some guidance in the itinerary, travelling with wife and a 5 yo kid

arrival 8.35am
18th dec - aquarium + ferris wheel
19th dec - USJ
20th dec - nara deer + todaiji
21st dec - head to kyoto + Gion
22nd dec- Arashiyama + Fushimi inari
23rd dec - back to osaka + shinsaibashi
24th dec - Suntory distillery + Dotonbori
25th dec - Free n Easy Departure 11.20pm

1st 3 nights will be in osaka, then 2 nights in kyoto then last 2 nights in osaka

what's the best way to get to kyoto with luggage stroller and all? was thinking to rent a car, not very good with public transports

TIA for any advice on the above itinerary, feel free to call me idiotic n stupid, really 1st time planning... all these while tour aje

* forgot to add in, any ryokan suitable for the family at kyoto? preferably with Onsen n Kaiseki, thanks

This post has been edited by rx330: Nov 15 2022, 03:04 PM
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post Nov 16 2022, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Nov 16 2022, 03:11 AM)
Your nara is not going to take the whole day if you just want to see deer and todaiji. The deer are like right smack outside todaiji's entrance. You could like add plan to see some mausoleum (this will require some bus rides, so research a bit) or you can opt to go 1/2 day Nara (you can throw in kasuga taisha after visiting todaiji its walkable distance also the road leading up to kasuga also bazillion deers.....) Then go to kyoto and enjoy gion during the evening (its more instagrammable at dusk and night...) Kyoto, if you just want to do the usual tourist spot of kiyomizudera and its downtown dont need a whole day. But best give kyoto at least a daytrip and plan a route)

You could spend whole day in Nara, it reallt depends on how many mausoleums and temple/shrines you wanna see there. Ah don't forget that shopping street with the viral mochi pounding man šŸ‘

Fushimi inari taisha is best you go early morning. Less people... But since no chinese tourist should be ok šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ arashiyama is a very small bamboo forest... The picture makes it look like as if its super big but after go there.... expectation 100% reality 30% lol but if you go during scenic times (spring or autumn) take the scenic train ride before going to the bamboo forest

P/S dotonbori and shinsaibashi literally at same spot

P/S2: you could also go further down from fushimi inari like early morning go fushimi inari, after climbing up and down those torii, have lunch then take the train to Fushimi for a quick stop to a sake museum (it even has sake tasting and you can also obviously buy sake. Precovid every entry ticket gets you a bottle of sake, idk if they still do that. The museum is called Gekkeikan) and after sake museum, depending how much time you dwaddle therw, you can take the train ride to the motherload town of uji matcha, Uji. Then head back to kyoto or osaka depending where you are based
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hi thanks for the input

the next day after Nara will be heading to kyoto, and will be staying there for 2 nights
so should have enough time in kyoto I guess

how cold would tat time be? I was in Hokkaido few years back during dec also, n that's freezing....

any tips from Kansai Airport to hotel in shinshaibashi?
3 big luggage 1 hand carry 1 stroller 1 kid bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Nov 16 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Nov 16 2022, 10:05 AM)
Unless you made another post before that post i replied to, i must've missed when you mention you plan to go. Please replied to me again so i can see a notification. I will give a better guide and explanation to you this evening after i finished work. Is that alright?  If you got a lot of luggage suggest you stay namba area. Thats where the airport transfer is. Namba also super convenient. Also another thing, if you plan to bring a 5 yo kid to fushimi inari taisha, i hope your kid is a really good no tantrum kid or you and wifey got a lot of stamina cause you gonna be needing it hauling your kid up a lot of steps. The torii is an ascent. Also some steps are narrow and mossy, blah2. If you have ambition to go all the way to the top, have a contigency plan šŸ˜… if not gonna have very unhappy kid and parents

Edit: woops sorry i see you asking for december... A pity you wil miss the koyo alrd... If you go now is best time. Will be beautiful. I can rework your itinerary a bit and give some suggestions. You can consider Kobe also.just barely half an hour on a normal train. You can just buy the normal ticket. Can take ropeway up nunobiki garden and have a nice cooling time and cool view of kobe city then walk back down the ropeway first station then have a nice walk pushing stroller around all the special western district and kobe chinatown šŸ‘ then can enjoy kobe beef too
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no worries, evening is fine
yea, if got time I don't mind going Kobe for half a day

as for fushimi inari, not going all the way, should be uturn after the 1st section hahahah

thanks in advance, as for now, pre book 1st 3 nights at shinshaibashi hotel, seems like not a good location to reach
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post Nov 16 2022, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 16 2022, 11:57 AM)
take the airport express train from KIX that ends at Namba, closest you can get to Shinsaibashi afaik. otherwise its a transit of trains within the Osaka Metro/Subway line (Midosuji i think). bad news is airport express can get crowded as many uses it to fast transit to city

as for cold, japan cities down south in winter shouldnt be as terrible as hokkaido. i was in Osaka/Kyoto in Jan, coldest was 0C and avg 2-4C daily. if sun out longer, then itll be 6C max. just pray no strong winds, that one i suggest a hardshell windbreaker to pair with your warm clothing
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thanks for the tips

so just one heat tech, one shirt one jacket/windbreaker will suffice I guess?

I believe my itinerary no need what ever train pass right? just buy the tickets as is as when
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post Nov 18 2022, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Nov 16 2022, 09:44 PM)
Okay, so here are some of my tips and info for Osaka. Hope it can be useful for you.

IF you're doing:

ROUND TRIP OSAKA. ONLY PLAN TO SIGHTSEE AROUND OSAKA CITY, KYOTO, AND/OR KOBE. Then,

a. you don’t need a JR PASS of any sort.
b. You do however can make use of various other passes like;
a. Osaka city 1D metro pass to go around Osaka City
b. You can take advantage of Osaka Amazing Pass
                    i. Offered as a 1D or 2D pass
                    ii. (it is bundled with all day metro and bus pass and works on Nankai, Hankyu, Hanshin, Keihan, Kintetsu trains)
                    iii. Offered you to enter some sight-seeing spots around the city for free instead of having to pay Admission.

c. In Kyoto, bus pass is more superior than subway pass. Though do note driving in Kyoto City is a nightmare (even parking is a pain).
        However since you have a stroller, maybe do the Kyoto subway. It’s not as convenient as the bus, but at least you can squeeze in a stroller easier.
d. If you don’t mind the extra bit of spending and lazy to buy the above-mentioned passes, just get yourself an IC card (ICOCA) and use it as a normal MRT card.
        Just top up when needed. Though if you’re a first-timer in Osaka, I do say Amazing Pass is quite a nice deal.
e. There are other passes offered by other rail companies besides JR you can use to go to places like Nara, Uji, Wakayama, Shiga. Examples:
            i. Kintetsu Rail Pass (1D is 1500 yen) Pass is offered as a one day, two days, or five days option. The 1D pass will let you travel from Namba to Nara or Kyoto to Nara sufficiently on the Kintetsu Line.
                It’s also the fastest line for Kyoto-Nara.
            ii. Hanshin also offer a 1D tourist pass to let you ride unlimited rides on their trains. You can make use of it to go to Kobe. The pass is about 500 yen. Or you can also just pay normal fare.
                Hanshin, JR and Hankyu have route from Osaka to Kobe.

f. If you plan to sight-see around Osaka City, you could opt to base yourself at Shinsaibashi or Namba/Nipponbashi area. You can even consider quieter, yet still accessible area like Daikokucho (which is like a 5 mins walk to
        Namba Park, close to Shinsekai. And depends on how much of a walking person are you, you can stroll through Namba to Kuromon Market. All are within walking distance.
g. Namba is also where the Airport transfer is at, so you can save yourself the annoyance of lugging pieces of luggage through Osaka Metro (which is always packed... esp Midosuji line) to reach the airport.
h. Namba area is great as a base for city exploration and also to access other areas like Wakayama. Also, there’s SIX (yup) Namba stations owned by different rail companies... So don’t get confused and get to know who owns
        what.
i. Namba is also convenient to go to USJ, kaiyukan, ferris wheel.
j. December is also a great time for the annual Christmas Lights Illumination at Midosuji.
k. If you’re planning to take a lot of shinkansen rides and no deep dive Osaka City exploration. It’s better to base yourself at the north (kita) area of Osaka like around Umeda or Shin-osaka.
KYOTO

a. You could easily squeeze Kiyomizudera, Gion district, the downtown shopping area incld Nishiki Market for ½ day. Near to Kiyomizudera is Yasaka Shrine (it’s also located in a big ass park,
        if you walk that, you will take up a lot of time). So you could do a route of Kiyomizudera -> then walk through the famous Ninen and Sannen zaka (this will connect you through all the way to Yasaka Shrine).
          Yasaka Shrine sits at a T junction facing Kyoto-Kawaramachi that will connect you to Gion and the downtown area.
b. Kinkakuji and Ginkakuji are both a little out of the way (also opposide direction of each other).
c. Since you’re interested in going to Arashiyama, you should try the Sagano Scenic Railway. Then you can walk through the Bamboo Forest and also consider a boat ride on Hozugawa.
        This whole itinerary would take you just half a day.

NARA

a. Nara itself has a lot to offer, but most people only know deer, todaiji, and maybe kasuga-taisha. But Nara actually also have a ā€œmountainā€ (tbh it should be a hill) but you might not be able to access it in december.
If you’re like a history afficianado, Nara is also the location for a few mausoleums of past emperor and empress of Japan. The most famous one will be the mausoleum of Emperor Kaika and another is the mausoleum of Empresss Jingu. They are however, a little not that convenient to get to compared to famous spots like Todaiji, kasuga-taisha and kofuji. So, if you only plan to do the general sights, half day trip is more than sufficient.

As mentioned in my first reply, you could after visit to Fushimi Inari, take the train a few stations down to the sake brewery or just go straight to Uji and do a ½ day tour there. You could also do a Shiga/Lake Biwako day trip from Kyoto. There’s Hieizan in Shiga (you can go up with a ropeway) that offer nice view of Japanese primodial forest and also view of Lake Biwako from the observatory on top. Then could go to Lake Biwako and enjoy ferry cruises (they got all sorts! One type was even a kind of American style ferry called Michigan Cruise.
If you want to do a 1 day or 1/2 day itinerary to Kobe, I would suggest first go to Nunobiki Garden (I recommend it all my friends that wanted to go Kobe). You can take the ropeway up there (the ropeway station base is also conveniently located right around the corner at Sannomiya station) The Garden offers a view of Kobe City. There’s also a really nice cafĆ© and shop at the top of the garden and even has a foot bath.
After you come down from the garden, you can stroll through Kitano-cho (the western district with a lot of interesting period buildings, some of them requires a fee to enter). From Kitano-cho it is an easy walk towards the downtown (to enjoy kobe beef meal) and Kobe Chinatown. Kobe Chinatown is also a really easy walk to nearby Kobe Port (where you can still see some preserved remmants of the great Kobe earthquake in 1995) and Port tower.

Weather wise in December, Kobe, Osaka and Kyoto are similar. As long as wind doesn’t blow, you’re good. Just layer yourself and prepare a warmer jacket for night time.

As for ryokan recommendations, I can’t really suggest any OTL... I’m a single woman and I don’t consider myself heavily tattooed, but tattoo-ed enough on my body so I don’t really bother about going to onsen that kind of thing. Just too bothersome to find one that will accommodate me. More of an outdoor person. If you want to hike around Japan, I got a lot of recommendations lol) But one thing i would say is find somewhere thats very near Kyoto Station (walkable) or least only 1-2 subway (like at karasuma-gojo) or bus ride away. Any further will just be kinda inconvenient.
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Thanks so much for the things to do n visit

Read thru ur reply at least 3 times, hahaha not easy for me digest yet

So my itinerary now is agak agak fixed dy

1st 3 nights staying in shinshaibashi, will take up the amazing pass, n cover the area for the 1st 2 days, then 3rd day will be spending it at USJ itself
was only able to get tickets to usj on the 20th
So literally if I need to go anywhere, just reach there I buy the tickets is also fine right?
What are the peak hours to avoid? 4 luggage + stroller seems like a nightmare

then will travel to kyoto, by train, give up driving there
stay 2 nights there, will try to follow your itinerary
1st day go Gion evening? next day early morning head to Arashiyama or fushimi?

after 2 nights in kyoto will be travelling back to osaka, staying in Shinsekai
hopefully in time to visit Suntory distillery on the day arriving back at Shinsekai
xmas eve may try to visit either Nara or Kobe , I wonder where is a nice place to have a xmas eve dinner for the family
checking out on xmas day itself, but btwn 11am (hopefully they allow late checkout) to 11pm (departure) where to hangout? hahaha

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post Nov 25 2022, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Nov 18 2022, 11:29 PM)
Sorry, I wrote it on microsoft word, but then after pasting, realised this forum doesn't accept Word's formatting. I hope it's not that confusing. If there's any confusing part, feel free to ask, I'll try to explain better.
Regarding this, 99% you could just do that yes. But for the Sagano Rail, I would suggest you buy online, like maybe through middleman app like Klook or KKDAY, sometimes you won't be able to get Sagano on the same day. So best to book that in advance to get the day and time you wanted.
Driving to Kyoto is really pointless (not only that, the train ride from osaka to kyoto is such a short ride...) because unless you plan to go out of Kyoto (still in Kyoto but out of it) the traffic jam is gonna drive you mad. Also parking is a struggle. You cannot just park anywhere and not all lodging offer parking. So you need to take that into consideration (assuming you plan to rent a car the whole time you're there).

Oh, one thing I do have to remind you is that there's a new post covid rules about luggage on shinkansen (though you probably won't be riding any with your itinerary unless you decides to change it)
On certain shinkansen routes like on Tokyo-Osaka/Osaka-Tokyo (Tokaido Shinkansen), Sanyo route (Osaka-fukuoka/fukuoka-osaka) and a few others i don't remember, if your luggage size exceed 250cm and above, you're not allowed on the train, if it is below 250cm but above 160cm, then you need to make seat reservation (green car). You could also consider luggage forwarding service (for like few thousand yen) if you really have a lot of luggage to your next destination so you can travel the train with ease. Some hotels can hook you up with this kind of service, no harm asking.
Yup. that is a good flow so you're not going all over the place and wasting time travelling.
No hate for Shinsekai, I love going there for the little hidden shops with kickass and cheap kushikatsu, but do take note that Shinsekai is a red-light district. (it is also one of the poorer district, was improving regarding homelessness, but that is still a thing... i have not been to osaka post-covid, but shinsekai took a heavy beating during covid-era. Japan as a whole are safer than a lot of country. You can still stay there, but just take note.

Also, if you're staying at Shinsekai, you could take a metro or just walk (it is very close by) to Tennoji and go to Abeno Harukas (one of the tallest skyscraper in Japan and has a observation deck to offer you a non-impeding view of Osaka City. The observation deck requires admission fee. You could have your xmas eve dinner (but usually you gotta book, walk-in on xmas eve/xmas is really about finding a miracle lol) over at Abeno Harukas (got some fancy places with good atmosphere) as well or you could do it over at the Umeda area (also got a lot of fancy places), have a nice dinner then afterwards, then stroll through the xmas lights illumination on Midosuji.

If you do go Kobe, you could still make it a day trip or overnight. Rent a car there and you can include driving to Akashi-kaikyo bridge to the rest of the itinerary or drive to Rokkosan Mountain Farm to enjoy family oriented activities there.

Tbh,if you have more days to spend, i would've suggest you get like JR Kansai Wide pass and go to Tottori (December in Tottori is the season of Matsuba crab and zuwaigani aka snow crab. It's absolutely insanely fresh and cheap when in season, you could rent a car there and also drive all the way to sakaiminato as well, its a port and with a lot of fresh seafood) and further to Hiroshima/Miyajima.
Go where you haven't go in Osaka city area  tongue.gif Also, since Airport Transfer is located at Namba, you could either drop your luggage at the locker there or search for a luggage keeping service. They charge by pieces usually. Just google Luggage storing service namba osaka. it will bring you a list. Make sure it's near the train station though.
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thanks for your inputs again, sorry for the late feedback

for the now the hotels are fixed, ended back in shinsaibashi (same hotel during arrival) during xmas eve

I have check on google map the total journey with train to my kyoto hotel is about an hour plus
I believe that is not the Shinkansen , the normal train can I lug my luggage with me? the good thing now is, I'm able to store my luggage at the same hotel, so I just need to bring 1 luggage + 1 stroller to kyoto

I googled sagano rail, is it the scenic ride to Arashiyama ?

is it convenient to drop by at Kobe from kyoto before going to osaka?
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post Nov 25 2022, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Nov 25 2022, 12:22 PM)
Yup, that's the one. 'Sagano Scenic Railway'. Just buy from Klook or KKday and book a day.
Yes. That's right, Osaka itself to Kyoto on normal train is not that long a ride, just about 30 mins.(and by Osaka, I'm saying like from Umeda station/Osaka to Kyoto Station (which is located in the North(kita) side of Osaka). If you're travelling from Shinsaibashi which is the Minami (south) area, it's going to take more than 30 mins. you can check this link for reference about travelling time for the various train lines from Osaka to Kyoto if you feel confused.
Yes, but its gonna be hectic depending on what time you're using it. But if you don't have many pieces it will be okay.
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the sagano rail, even on winter got nice view as well?

seriously im not very good at public transportation hahaha, will re read the link u forwarded

are the trains stroller friendly in osaka? or we will need to fold It up

oh ya, what kind of data package is recommended ? getting a sim?
the last time I was in Hokkaido, I think I used a mifi
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post Nov 26 2022, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Nov 25 2022, 02:32 PM)
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First and last carriages are stroller friendly and have dedicated stroller space. Other than that, you prolly have to fold up? I'm a single woman, really am not the best person to ask about this. (I'm trying to think hard about my time on the trains if i seen a stroller or not lmao) Maybe try googling OTL
If you're always together with family, maybe mifi? I'm usually a solo traveler and also gotten lazy buying japanese sim...I think i only bought jp sims twice. After that, each time i just buy roaming addon.
I'm on Digi, 14 days jp roaming just cost me 75 rm. not unlimited internet but was enough for what i need (basically google maps, navitime, tabelog). Besides, it comes with call minutes which those jp travel sim doesn't offer. Every telco also has something similar i reckon? I think maxis offers only 1  type of roaming for japan and it's around 99 myr and last 30 days. (digi 30 days jp roaming is 95-30gb internet but weirdly only 30 mins call time)
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okie thanks

will check with the telcos
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post Nov 29 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 27 2022, 09:40 PM)
90% shop will be closing, those open will be chain store restaurant. Theme park will be full of people. Onsen will be ridiculous expensive. Basically either you go hiking or sleep in hotel room or shopping in mall.
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my initial plan was to spend the New Years in Japan ..... luckily there is ticket for xmas
if not end up sleep hotel or shopping in mall......

the locals will be back at their kampungs Is it?
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post Nov 29 2022, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 29 2022, 09:35 AM)
Not really. Mostly will be rest & sleep in home. Japan are high stress society. Alot Japananese work until 12am and wake up as early as 5am.
You can go Japan train Station on 5am morning, you will see the crowd already, even 12am midnight, station still got full of people taking last train back home.
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I always tot they drink till 12am, then next day early morning wake up to work again hahaha, the youngsters nowadays I dunno la

what's the best time to get on the public transport then , to avoid the crowds
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how could one ensure that the flight isn't overbook? or is down purely to luck

it happens it happens

or fast fast go Q n check in
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post Nov 30 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Nov 29 2022, 06:05 PM)
I remember watching youtube video, saying the airlines will have some statistics, to determine how many tickets they sell, etc. Based on past experience.

But i think early check in does help with it.

But based on what i saw yesterday... AAX flight was relatively empty. Quiet zone about 30% to 40%. But the "normal" zone still quite full maybe 70% 80%, obviously this number is gut feel, didnt really count. One quick glance, dont see that many rows 3 ppl fully seated.
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thanks

will check when is the earliest to do online check in
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post Dec 9 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Dec 8 2022, 10:30 PM)
For fun sharing, although not a good news. Got a friend flying tmr by airasia. Departure time got delayed from 2pm+ to 6pm+. Hopefully dont delay further.

Travelling post covid (especially AA?) is really full of surprises.
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thanks for the heads up

im flying thru sq, hopefully no such issue, check in online earliest also 48 hours only.........

cannellini
was checking on the sagano romantic trail
I would need to redeem the ticket at kyoto station , then from there take train to Kameoka station, from there board the sagano romantic train then alight at saga station, betul ka?
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post Dec 9 2022, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Dec 9 2022, 11:00 AM)
you booked sagano romantic train online thru klook or other travel agency?  If you booked thru online, normally redeem ticket location are at Kyoto Station designated spot.

You cannot get Sagano romantic train ticket at Kyoto Station. You can ride Sagano Scenic train from Kameoka or Saga Arashiyama Station. I personally like to take the train from Saga Arashiyama Station towards Kameoka Station. From Kameoka take Hozugawa River Boat Ride back to Arashiyama

NOTE:

IF you take the train from Kyoto Station direct to Kameoka Station, on some route the train line are aligh with Scenic train line, basically already potong stim  tongue.gif
So from Kameoka to Arashiyama scenic wont be any more surprise to you. Everything already potong stim
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not yet book, but browsing it on Klook, reviews were saying buying it on Klook is 2 times pricier hahah

ok did some homework, I'm staying at Nijo , so from there I think better I go Arashiyama forest 1st, then take the train from saga to Kameoka like what you suggested, is winter time suitable for the river boat ride back?

how long does 1 spend time in Arashiyama forest?
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Dec 9 2022, 11:21 AM)
Sagano Scenic train are based on 1st come 1st serve basic and ticket only available at Kameoka Station / Saga Arashiyama Station only.
Klook are expensive but you got secure ticket.

About the boat, during winter, the boat will be heated up. very comfortable, but the price are on higher side. (4100 Yen per pax)
Once a life time, it was worth. Unless you wanted become like me which go Kyoto more than 100 times, then no need.  biggrin.gif

NOTE:

IF you take the train from Kyoto Station direct to Kameoka Station, on some route the train line are aligh with Scenic train line, basically already potong stim  tongue.gif
So from Kameoka to Arashiyama scenic won't be any more surprise to you. Everything already potong stim.

From Kyoto Station don't take JR Train direct to Arashiyama. If you got alot time to spare, Follow my route.
From Kyoto Station > Karasuma Oike Station via Karasuma Subway Line.
Karasuma Oike Station > Uzumasa Tenjingawa Station via Tozai Subway Line.
Uzumasa Tenjingawa Station > Randen-Saga Station via Randen Arashiyama Line (Very classic tram)
Randen-Saga Station walk to Saga-Arashiyama Station
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I seen the schedule, almost every hour got train ride, so still better to buy online to secure seating or wait for next available train?

its boat, where to buy tix ar? also need to pre buy ar

I think I should be taking bus from Nijo to Arashiyama

ur this route
From Kyoto Station > Karasuma Oike Station via Karasuma Subway Line.
Karasuma Oike Station > Uzumasa Tenjingawa Station via Tozai Subway Line.
Uzumasa Tenjingawa Station > Randen-Saga Station via Randen Arashiyama Line (Very classic tram)
Randen-Saga Station walk to Saga-Arashiyama Station
most likely I will get lost hahahah ended up in other state hahahahah

marfccy
just a brisk walk, show my kid ard, take some pics
the surroundings are the forest or the streets?
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post Dec 9 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(cannellini @ Dec 9 2022, 01:17 PM)
Doesnt matter if the ride is hourly. Its a small train. It cant carry much per ride. If you dont buy DAYS in advance, chances are you won't be able to get in on the day and the time you want. (Or even next train) Last time they used to allow you to stand in the train (which is really lame, you definitely want to sit) but now i think no more.

The boat ticket are sold on the spot at the pier
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thanks, I don mind the extra from Klook, just tat the timing macam fixed, let me look at it again


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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 9 2022, 02:13 PM)
if both forest and streets try put around 2hrs at least

or even the monkey park also can include
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just curious, Japan monkey behaviour n msia/thai monkey same or not
do they behave more courteous or same, if behave like our monkeys I think I will give it a miss

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the cute purple train is it? electric one

is it best to get the ICoca card?
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post Dec 16 2022, 11:16 AM

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ish... even the sagano normal tix sold out on Klook hahahah

so gan Cheong now, flying off tomorrow
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post Dec 28 2022, 10:40 AM

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came back from my holidays
thanks for the advice given ahead by all of you here

dang it, I miss the snow, and it was really cold at osaka and kyoto

Osaka amazing pass, unless u really cheong n visit all the free places ( some not free on weekends) I think just get the suica/icoca card will do, tap n use the transport

I think I wasted money on the 2 day pass

The only place that stated there cash only was at the sagano romantic train station, the rest I notice mostly can use card, oh ya market place I think also cash only
due to the weather, I accidentally walk to sagano romantic train station, try my luck with ticket, reach there 1.15pm, bought 2pm ticket hahahah, but don't dare take the boat ride back, too cold, so paid for return ticket
(the train master can really sing)

osaka itself is packed, I seen msians there, a lot of hongkongers and Taiwanese, Sporean a lot also, China ppl not as much


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post Dec 28 2022, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Dec 28 2022, 11:09 AM)
thanks bro! looks like i'll need to hit the brakes on the Osaka 2 day pass, i might just get 1 day since i want to cover these places:
Osaka Castle
Suijyo Bus (Aqualiner)
Umeda Sky Building
Hep Five Ferris Wheel
the next day i plan to take half day to Nara

for the Sagano train, can you buy return ticket at Saga/Arashiyama station?

for the west side of Kyoto, did you start from Fushimi Inari Taisha (south-west) or Higashiyama Jisho-ji (north west)?
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one day pass will do then

the sagano train is next to the station I think, so u can buy it there
but as regentcid said before, quite peak, my was special case I guess, weather too cold n raining or wat not, heck I didn't even went to the bamboo forest hahahah

I end up didnt go to Fushimi Inari hahahahaha
was at Gion and Kiyomizudera area

travelling with kid, itinerary all out

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