Hi boss i checked with my friends who are renting shoplots. Your problem is not uncommon but no landlord is giving discount. The standard practice in this situation is deferment and payback by installment. Example rental 1k in april can defer, but pay 1.2k in the following 5 months. Pls understand rental income is not like other businesses where u can earn less this month but earn more next month to recover the losses. If i give discount that would mean direct instant loss that can never be recovered. This is the reason why banks also dont give discount to loan takers instead only deferment or rescheduling.

A lot of tenants (commercial and residential) are going to be calling owners/landlords and asking for discounts/deferments/etc because they know the owners don't have to pay the monthly loan for next 6 months.

Lots of fights and arguments in the next 6 months for sure. Courts will be busy later this year.

Burger King chief executive Alasdair Murdoch has said that the fast food chain will not be paying rent due on its UK restaurants this week.

Hundreds of High Street businesses are set to withhold their quarterly rent payments, which are due on Wednesday, so they can afford to pay their staff.

How many local tenants will follow?

not gonna happen here in BolehLand 

That depends on who has stronger bargaining power.

An answer from my friend. Do u think it makes sense?

There are 2 contracts here each is independent. The tenancy contract is the one referred to, as what is stipulated in the clauses.

The owner loan contract ( and in this case moratorium is effected on) .
My 2 cents!

Most landlords are kiam siap.... very calculative... for me, if tenant requests, I bear half the rental ... means they only pay half for duration of lockdown

An answer from my friend. Do u think it makes sense?

Ya ka, who bear your interest cost? 

I bear la.. who else? I pity ppl with no income and business dying... hopefully they can pull through ... their survival at stake ...

An answer from my friend. Do u think it makes sense?

A lot of tenants (commercial and residential) are going to be calling owners/landlords and asking for discounts/deferments/etc because they know the owners don't have to pay the monthly loan for next 6 months.

Lots of fights and arguments in the next 6 months for sure. Courts will be busy later this year.

I believe the 2nd post owner who offers FREE rental is someone that does not know Bank still charging him interests.
Or he overcharges the interests for a long time, else he is too rich.

I agree on the 3rd want, RM200 discount, the best solutions.

for non commercial/business tenancy, 50% discount during mco period is fair and appreciated.

for commercial, it will depends on how much the landlord want the tenant to survive and stay. if landlord don't offer discount or waiver and tenant couldn't afford to pay is lppl.

at current market sentiment, most tenants will/should take the opportunity to negotiate for cheaper rental for the rest of tenancy period.

For residential, the tenants are occupied the house 24hrs per day still need to give discount? If commercial i understand, where no activities carry out on that permise.

for non commercial/business tenancy, 50% discount during mco period is fair and appreciated.

for commercial, it will depends on how much the landlord want the tenant to survive and stay. if landlord don't offer discount or waiver and tenant couldn't afford to pay is lppl.

at current market sentiment, most tenants will/should take the opportunity to negotiate for cheaper rental for the rest of tenancy period.

for non commercial/business tenancy, 50% discount during mco period is fair and appreciated.

for commercial, it will depends on how much the landlord want the tenant to survive and stay. if landlord don't offer discount or waiver and tenant couldn't afford to pay is lppl.

at current market sentiment, most tenants will/should take the opportunity to negotiate for cheaper rental for the rest of tenancy period.

I agree. If the tenant goes out of business, the landlord would lose rent and possibly get involved in a lawsuit, which would cost him/her more $ and trouble. How would a landlord choose between a) getting 50% rent for a year; or b) losing total rent until you get a new tenant, with cost and trouble for a lawsuit, commission fee and other costs for a new lease?

The rest of the tenancy period?

You overestimate the tenant's bargaining power.
If my tenant requests for a 50% rent discount for the rest of the year. I will serve 2 months notice to them.

The rest of the tenancy period?

You overestimate the tenant's bargaining power.
If my tenant requests for a 50% rent discount for the rest of the year. I will serve 2 months notice to them.

I gave rm500 discount to the Amcorp mall tenants initially for March and April coz i know their business is taken a hit. However i did not give the discount to the residential tenants at bukit jalil because she is a student which i dont think the lock down affect her financial. I myself forcing to take a unpaid leave for the company goods. It's all about helping each other getting through this difficulties. You help me, I help you.

I did reduce RM 200 for 4 mths la coz my tenant also good paymaster..now company not paying them 3 maths salary coz of Covid 19 coz cannot travel to KK where the HQ is...
loss RM 200 per mth is better than the entire rental la...
with the RM 200 won't do much for my lifestyle since now cannot go out leap..but to tenant it may help to pay other utilities la..
anyway this is my 2 sen la..

+1 good karma

I agree with you, I gave 40% discount to my tenant for the next 6 months.

She is a good tenant and taking care of my unit very clean and tidy.

Its a good felling when you can others in this difficult time:)

Most landlords are kiam siap.... very calculative... for me, if tenant requests, I bear half the rental ... means they only pay half for duration of lockdown

Where's ur property? I rent now

Don't think there's discount..
Even in mall I heard.. only deferments for few months...
Can try luck nego with owner... So good luck boss

There is discount la.....I'm manage to get discount rental for March onwards before BNM 6months deferment announce, Sunway group malls giving free rental during MCO periods and so far a mall in KL yet to send me invoice, hopefully free rental pls....

I just feel people are opportunistic and taking advantage of the situation especially for residential. Like so fast can't pay house rental on the first month? And they think moratorium is free money. And if tenant is long time then can consider but if you are new tenant and ask immediately, it is very hard to believe.

Guys, mind giving me your opinion on my tenant (commercial property). A bit long, so please bear with me! 

He's been renting since 2014 and was always on time with rent, however this year his business (phone and computer repair shop) has taken a hit and has been late with rental since January. Last month he missed the due date and I had to call him after 2 weeks wondering where the rent was. He asked to pay half with the balance later. Since he was an exemplary tenant I told him he can pay the balance next month (which is this month) under the assumption that March rental will be paid along with it.

He did ended up paying the balance, but didn't paid this month's rent (which was due even before the lockdown) and has been avoiding my texts. I finally got trough him today and he told me that all surrounding tenants are getting a 50% discount so he's asking me if I could grant him the same leeway.

I told him I would have given him a nice discount had he had been more proactive with the situation and not waited until I called him (and ignoring my texts). I gave him one last chance to come call me back by the end of this month to come up with a better proposal (I can't afford to give 50% discount for the next 6 months as rent is my main source of income).

I consider myself a fair guy. I scolded him for not being proactive and also praised his past record. I told him it was extremely upsetting that he has been avoiding paying the rent and my texts since I already called him last month saying that if he has problems, he is free to CALL ME and talk it over. What do you guys think and what kind of compromise should I reach with this dude?

for non commercial/business tenancy, 50% discount during mco period is fair and appreciated.

for commercial, it will depends on how much the landlord want the tenant to survive and stay. if landlord don't offer discount or waiver and tenant couldn't afford to pay is lppl.

at current market sentiment, most tenants will/should take the opportunity to negotiate for cheaper rental for the rest of tenancy period.

If real difficulty for good tenant then can discuss for a mutually agreeable arrangement. For opportunist that simply "take the opportunity", go fly kite lah!

If you are the owner, would you give 50%?

Yes, if they ask.

Most likely this tenant would not be able to maintain the same payment record, phone and computer are much cheaper now (not many people are actually sending them to repair). Even you give a 6 months discount, would his business actually back on track?

If I am you, I will start looking for other potential tenants, understand the market rate/demand, as backup.

Yup, I would be open to entertaining the idea of finding other tenants if I had the extra cash to live tenant-less for 3-4 months but that's not the case, but at the same time I find the idea of tenant asking me to give 50% off for the next 6 months AFTER ignoring this month's rent is a bit insulting.

Guys, mind giving me your opinion on my tenant (commercial property). A bit long, so please bear with me! 

He's been renting since 2014 and was always on time with rent, however this year his business (phone and computer repair shop) has taken a hit and has been late with rental since January. Last month he missed the due date and I had to call him after 2 weeks wondering where the rent was. He asked to pay half with the balance later. Since he was an exemplary tenant I told him he can pay the balance next month (which is this month) under the assumption that March rental will be paid along with it.

He did ended up paying the balance, but didn't paid this month's rent (which was due even before the lockdown) and has been avoiding my texts. I finally got trough him today and he told me that all surrounding tenants are getting a 50% discount so he's asking me if I could grant him the same leeway.

I told him I would have given him a nice discount had he had been more proactive with the situation and not waited until I called him (and ignoring my texts). I gave him one last chance to come call me back by the end of this month to come up with a better proposal (I can't afford to give 50% discount for the next 6 months as rent is my main source of income).

I consider myself a fair guy. I scolded him for not being proactive and also praised his past record. I told him it was extremely upsetting that he has been avoiding paying the rent and my texts since I already called him last month saying that if he has problems, he is free to CALL ME and talk it over. What do you guys think and what kind of compromise should I reach with this dude?

Also think about it, if you are a tenant, would you really move out because of not getting discount? Moving out involve cost, time, hassle etc. and what is the possibility to find much cheaper unit??

For businesses, if the business is good, would the tenant actually move out because of not getting discount? It takes time to build a business in a location, moving can affect the business. Worth it?

Guys, mind giving me your opinion on my tenant (commercial property). A bit long, so please bear with me! 

He's been renting since 2014 and was always on time with rent, however this year his business (phone and computer repair shop) has taken a hit and has been late with rental since January. Last month he missed the due date and I had to call him after 2 weeks wondering where the rent was. He asked to pay half with the balance later. Since he was an exemplary tenant I told him he can pay the balance next month (which is this month) under the assumption that March rental will be paid along with it.

He did ended up paying the balance, but didn't paid this month's rent (which was due even before the lockdown) and has been avoiding my texts. I finally got trough him today and he told me that all surrounding tenants are getting a 50% discount so he's asking me if I could grant him the same leeway.

I told him I would have given him a nice discount had he had been more proactive with the situation and not waited until I called him (and ignoring my texts). I gave him one last chance to come call me back by the end of this month to come up with a better proposal (I can't afford to give 50% discount for the next 6 months as rent is my main source of income).

I consider myself a fair guy. I scolded him for not being proactive and also praised his past record. I told him it was extremely upsetting that he has been avoiding paying the rent and my texts since I already called him last month saying that if he has problems, he is free to CALL ME and talk it over. What do you guys think and what kind of compromise should I reach with this dude?

If tenant business is not doing well, most would consider to try out new location. in most places, supply is more than demand. tenant could easily find cheaper alternative.

if the business could be relocated easily and rental is expensive, the tenant is likely to decamp to cheaper, better place or close shop.

as my properties have net cash flow, and my tenants have been screened thoroughly and i like them, i would give them around 25% discount for next 3 months to keep them. a win win situation, imagine if they leave and i got to hire another agent to dog fight with other untenanted properties

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I agree with you, I gave 40% discount to my tenant for the next 6 months.

She is a good tenant and taking care of my unit very clean and tidy.

Its a good feeling when you can help others in this difficult time:)

Deduct from deposit 1st lar

As long as the Tenant is occupying or using the property, there will be wear and tear on the property and other risk along on the property.......

The rental is to cover for the wear and tear of the property and all associated risk on the property by the Tenant.

As such, Tenant should pay landlord on time as per Tenancy Agreement.

Guys, mind giving me your opinion on my tenant (commercial property). A bit long, so please bear with me! 

He's been renting since 2014 and was always on time with rent, however this year his business (phone and computer repair shop) has taken a hit and has been late with rental since January. Last month he missed the due date and I had to call him after 2 weeks wondering where the rent was. He asked to pay half with the balance later. Since he was an exemplary tenant I told him he can pay the balance next month (which is this month) under the assumption that March rental will be paid along with it.

He did ended up paying the balance, but didn't paid this month's rent (which was due even before the lockdown) and has been avoiding my texts. I finally got trough him today and he told me that all surrounding tenants are getting a 50% discount so he's asking me if I could grant him the same leeway.

I told him I would have given him a nice discount had he had been more proactive with the situation and not waited until I called him (and ignoring my texts). I gave him one last chance to come call me back by the end of this month to come up with a better proposal (I can't afford to give 50% discount for the next 6 months as rent is my main source of income).

I consider myself a fair guy. I scolded him for not being proactive and also praised his past record. I told him it was extremely upsetting that he has been avoiding paying the rent and my texts since I already called him last month saying that if he has problems, he is free to CALL ME and talk it over. What do you guys think and what kind of compromise should I reach with this dude?

Guys, mind giving me your opinion on my tenant (commercial property). A bit long, so please bear with me! 

He's been renting since 2014 and was always on time with rent, however this year his business (phone and computer repair shop) has taken a hit and has been late with rental since January. Last month he missed the due date and I had to call him after 2 weeks wondering where the rent was. He asked to pay half with the balance later. Since he was an exemplary tenant I told him he can pay the balance next month (which is this month) under the assumption that March rental will be paid along with it.

He did ended up paying the balance, but didn't paid this month's rent (which was due even before the lockdown) and has been avoiding my texts. I finally got trough him today and he told me that all surrounding tenants are getting a 50% discount so he's asking me if I could grant him the same leeway.

I told him I would have given him a nice discount had he had been more proactive with the situation and not waited until I called him (and ignoring my texts). I gave him one last chance to come call me back by the end of this month to come up with a better proposal (I can't afford to give 50% discount for the next 6 months as rent is my main source of income).

I consider myself a fair guy. I scolded him for not being proactive and also praised his past record. I told him it was extremely upsetting that he has been avoiding paying the rent and my texts since I already called him last month saying that if he has problems, he is free to CALL ME and talk it over. What do you guys think and what kind of compromise should I reach with this dude?

Not planning to give discount, and my tenants didnt ask, not yet at least.

as my properties have net cash flow, and my tenants have been screened thoroughly and i like them, i would give them around 25% discount for next 3 months to keep them. a win win situation, imagine if they leave and i got to hire another agent to dog fight with other untenanted properties