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TSEmily Ratajkowski
post Mar 24 2020, 09:45 PM, updated 6y ago

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https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=5018&lang=en

Bank Negara Malaysia (the Bank) today announces a number of regulatory and supervisory measures in support of efforts by banking institutions to assist individuals, small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) and corporations to manage the impact of the Covid-19 outbreak. These measures allow banking institutions to remain focused on supporting the economy during these exceptional and unprecedented circumstances, by providing flexibilities for banking institutions to respond swiftly to the needs of their customers. Banking institutions are well-positioned to do so, given the large financial buffers that have been built up over the years.

Deferment and Restructuring of Loans/Financing Facilities

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Loans/financing to individuals and SMEs

To ease the cash flow of individuals and SMEs that are likely to be the most affected by Covid-19, banking institutions will offer a deferment of all loan/financing repayments for a period of 6 months, with effect from 1 April 2020. This offer is applicable to performing loans, denominated in Malaysian Ringgit, that have not been in arrears for more than 90 days as at 1 April 2020. For credit card facilities, banking institutions will offer to convert the outstanding balances into a 3-year term loan with reduced interest rates to help borrowers better manage their debt.

It is important to note that the interest/profit will continue to accrue on loan/financing repayments that are deferred and borrowers will need to honour the deferred repayments in the future. Borrowers should therefore ensure that they understand and discuss with their banking institutions on the options available to resume their scheduled repayments after the deferment period.

Individuals and SMEs that do not wish or need to avail of these flexibilities can continue with their current repayment structures.

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Loans/financing to corporations

Banking institutions will also facilitate requests by corporations to defer or restructure their loans/financing repayments in a way that will enable viable corporations to preserve jobs and swiftly resume economic activities when conditions improve. Corporations should approach their banking institutions to discuss their repayment plans and the restructuring of credit facilities.

The Bank has provided appropriate time-bound flexibilities for banking institutions to report deferred/restructured facilities in the Central Credit Reference Information System (CCRIS), taking into account the temporary nature of disruptions faced by borrowers/customers.
Comprehensive FAQ
https://t.co/m57LsxkYMq?amp=1
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Do I need to apply?
-No. All individual and SME loans/financing(excluding credit cards) that meet the criteria will automatically qualify for the deferment.

If I opt for the deferment, will my CCRIS records be adversely affected?
-No. However, interest/profit will continue to accrue on loan/financing repayments that are deferredand borrowers/customers will need to honour the deferred repayments in the future. Customers are advised to contact their banking institutions to discuss on the options available to resume repayments after the deferment period.

Will I be charged additional interest on the repayment amount that is deferred by 6 months during the period?
-For conventional loans, interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.For Islamic financing, profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles. Banks are however not allowed to impose late penalty charges on the deferred amount.In other words, the loan/financing repayment is just deferred by 6 months.
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Bank Announcement
1) PBB - https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

2) HLB - https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...wide-heretohelp

3) CIMB - https://www.cimb.com.my/en/personal/help-su...19-support.html

4) MBB - https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ief_scheme.page

5) UOB - https://www.uob.com.my/default/financial-re...f-measures.page

6) Affin - https://www.affinbank.com.my/NewsDetails.aspx?id=965

7) AmBank - https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/covid-19

8) MBSB - https://www.mbsbbank.com/storage/misc/moratorium_FAQ.pdf

9) OCBC - https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Media/20...um%20period.pdf

10) Agro Bank - https://www.agrobank.com.my/announcements/n...aan-moratorium/

11) BSN - https://www.mybsn.com.my/formdownload?formDownloadId=2212

12) Bank Islam - https://www.bankislam.com/wp-content/uploads/QA.pdf

13) RHB - https://www.rhbgroup.com/covid-19/index.html

14) Standard Charted Bank - https://av.sc.com/my/content/docs/relief-measures.pdf

15) Bank Rakyat - https://www.bankrakyat.com.my/repository/15...HAN%20Final.pdf

16) Bank Muamalat - https://www.muamalat.com.my/announcement/announcement-2/

17) Al-Rajhi - https://www.alrajhibank.com.my/post/importa...inancial-relief

18) HSBC - https://www.hsbc.com.my/content/dam/hsbc/my...ent-measure.pdf

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post Mar 24 2020, 09:47 PM

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So bank stock will gg for their coming gg? as the loan principal and interest is granted delay ?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM

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6 months still charge interest or not?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM

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post Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM

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Inb4 own money, no help.
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What does this mean in layman's term? I can temporarily stop paying my car loan for the next six months then continue after that?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM

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credit card need pay?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM

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post Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
credit card need pay?
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Are you blind?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
credit card need pay?
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It's at the first sentence, can you find it?

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Bank Negara announces automatic six-month moratorium on all bank loans — except for credit card balances

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QUOTE(purplecar @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
What does this mean in layman's term? I can temporarily stop paying my car loan for the next six months then continue after that?
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Car loan house loan no need pay ?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:50 PM

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post Mar 24 2020, 09:50 PM

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should includes cc, along style interests
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:51 PM

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How about housing loans?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:51 PM

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so if i continue the payment, it will be 100% to cover principle amount? sounds good to me
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QUOTE(BluePants @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
Are you blind?
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QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ Mar 24 2020, 09:50 PM)
It's at the first sentence, can you find it?
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lol. didnt read the article. im a read the post TITLE kind of guy.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM)
6 months still charge interest or not?
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^this


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post Mar 24 2020, 09:52 PM

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only if you are directly affected

1. fired/terminated
2. unable to drive grabcar no income etc
3. etc...
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:52 PM

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accrued interest will be compounded or not? if yes I'd just continue servicing the loans better hmm.gif
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:53 PM

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This 6 months interest how?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:53 PM

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you wann pay ur debt or u wann positive covid and no need pay for 6 months?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:53 PM

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For those yang terkesan with covid only
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:53 PM

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If charged interest.... Better pay as usual.
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:54 PM

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thats for those infected by COVID-19? how about still healthy one? their business wont survive
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Mar 24 2020, 09:51 PM)
lol. didnt read the article. im a read the post TITLE kind of guy.
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aka most useless kind of guy.
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Car loan? Asb loan?

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 24 2020, 09:45 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, March 24 — Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) tonight has ordered an automatic six-month moratorium on all bank loans — except for credit card balances — for those affected by the Covid-19 outbreak.
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So does this mean we need to apply to our bank?

Why cant they just give it automatically to everyone....
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 24 2020, 09:52 PM)
only if you are directly affected

1. fired/terminated
2. unable to drive grabcar no income etc
3. etc...
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How the banks know or differentiate?
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Mar 24 2020, 09:53 PM)
For those yang terkesan with covid only
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No ar, automatic system. So it is for everyone
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Damn... I beleice the interest is much less than the 1mdb. Ya, better take money to support rakyat.
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bank say thank you. another additional income of compounding interest.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM)
6 months still charge interest or not?
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I believe the answer is yes, it just extend your total loan period to additional 6 months.
banks dont do rugi business.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM)
6 months still charge interest or not?
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ini satu lagi buta huruf


“Banking institutions will grant an automatic moratorium on all loan/financing repayments/payments, principal and interest (except for credit card balances) by individuals and SME borrowers/customers for a period of six months from April 1, 2020,” the statement read.


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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM)
6 months still charge interest or not?
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Yes still. interest will be accrued from what I was made to understand. While you do not need to pay them in the next 6 months, you will still end up paying them, albeit in the future

This move is made to protect people's cashflow since many are not making much, if any income

QUOTE(smallcrab @ Mar 24 2020, 09:55 PM)
ini satu lagi buta huruf
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As per my explanation above, that was actually a valid question. Just because you do not need to pay the principal and interest, doesn't mean that the bank would eat the loss. The bank would just consider this a deferred revenue for them which they will collect (likely with interest on top of it) in the future (6 months from April)



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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 09:56 PM)
Yes still. interest will be accrued from what I was made to understand.
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yes, will be accrued

prior announcement, either you choose from two options

1. defer (accrued)
2. pay only interest

but based on bank respond (3 of them), all of them asked me to provide evidence... like im infected, termination letter etc...
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How can the bank know you are affected?
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dei... you all tak baca ke...

the bolded part say moratorium on all loan/financing repayments/payments, principal and interest
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"Terjejas akibat COVID"

meaning only for the one who got infected by Covid?


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"Automatic" should apply to all la. If affected people need to apply, it's not automatic anymore.
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Seriously many msian are dumbfuks, never read whole article and ask stupid questions, spam share, etc...
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 24 2020, 09:58 PM)
dei... you all tak baca ke...

the bolded part say moratorium on all loan/financing repayments/payments, principal and interest
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Moratorium is just a cease of activity which can be resume, interest will be accrued, and you will have to pay them in the future. the banks will not eat this loss. You don't pay, the bank will still repossess your collaterals, or black list you, or sue you to bankruptcy, or ALL OF THE ABOVE
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QUOTE(azadhamid @ Mar 24 2020, 09:54 PM)
thats for those infected by COVID-19? how about still healthy one? their business wont survive
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If your income is affected by Covid also can. But I'm curious how they are going to carry out automatically.
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Affected by Covid-19.

What do they mean by that?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 09:56 PM)
Yes still. interest will be accrued from what I was made to understand. While you do not need to pay them in the next 6 months, you will still end up paying them, albeit in the future

This move is made to protect people's cashflow since many are not making much, if any income
As per my explanation above, that was actually a valid question. Just because you do not need to pay the principal and interest, doesn't mean that the bank would eat the loss. The bank would just consider this a deferred revenue for them which they will collect (likely with interest on top of it) in the future (6 months from April)
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interest on top of interest, thanks but no thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 24 2020, 09:57 PM)
yes, will be accrued

prior announcement, either you choose from two options

1. defer (accrued)
2. pay only interest

but based on bank respond (3 of them), all of them asked me to provide evidence... like im infected, termination letter etc...
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So need to submit proof of salary deduction?
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Those in ICU how to apply
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how bout AH LONG loan.....? 6 month also....?
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QUOTE(Noryume @ Mar 24 2020, 10:00 PM)
If your income is affected by Covid also can. But I'm curious how they are going to carry out automatically.
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if you are infected automatically registered to kkm

how hard to find the rest so long they have your IC?
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Mar 24 2020, 09:51 PM)
lol. didnt read the article. im a read the post TITLE kind of guy.
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That is why always say PH bad this and that, because blind only can read big title.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 08:00 AM)
Moratorium is just a cease of activity which can be resume, interest will be accrued, and you will have to pay them in the future. the banks will not eat this loss. You don't pay, the bank will still repossess your collaterals, or black list you, or sue you to bankruptcy, or ALL OF THE ABOVE
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I thought moratorium is a pause. Meaning as if this 6 months doesn't exist and continue paying after the 6 months the same amount. The interest shouldn't accrue in this 6 months.
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Banks still pay interest on deposits? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 10:00 PM)
Moratorium is just a cease of activity which can be resume, interest will be accrued, and you will have to pay them in the future. the banks will not eat this loss. You don't pay, the bank will still repossess your collaterals, or black list you, or sue you to bankruptcy, or ALL OF THE ABOVE
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I noob

So that means loan actually get extended by 6 months

And... the final amount I pay to bank (principal + interest) is still the same with or without this moratorium?

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I want continue paying loan instalment how?

I dont want to stop since bank still charge interest on my loan

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:01 PM)
interest on top of interest, thanks but no thanks biggrin.gif
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Just likely. Dont take my words as gospel.

But if it is a deferment without interests on the accrued interest, please take this everyone. This is a gift. Use the money to buy these banks' shares laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sohailayhun @ Mar 24 2020, 10:02 PM)
how bout AH LONG loan.....? 6 month also....?
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Wow in 6 months time I saved almost 300k

Inb4 MOH no incum

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A lot of people have loan repayment as monthly auto transfer or standing instructions anyway... this is a soft impact move IMO
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
credit card need pay?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 10:00 PM)
Moratorium is just a cease of activity which can be resume, interest will be accrued, and you will have to pay them in the future. the banks will not eat this loss. You don't pay, the bank will still repossess your collaterals, or black list you, or sue you to bankruptcy, or ALL OF THE ABOVE
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Loyar buruk... that's wrong info.
Cannot trust your financial advise anymore...



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QUOTE(tikaram @ Mar 24 2020, 10:04 PM)
I want continue paying loan instalment how?

I dont want to stop since bank still charge interest on my loan
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pay macam biasa je la. not affected. not like the system kolok
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Mar 24 2020, 10:03 PM)
I thought moratorium is a pause. Meaning as if this 6 months doesn't exist and continue paying after the 6 months the same amount. The interest shouldn't accrue in this 6 months.
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https://www.bankbazaar.com/personal-loan/mo...ium-period.html

Differences between Moratorium Period and Grace Period Many individuals tend to think that a moratorium period and a grace period are similar. They often confuse a moratorium period for a grace period. However, the truth is that both are not the same.

During a grace period, interest will not be charged.

In a moratorium period, interest will most likely be charged, as opposed to a grace period, where interest is never charged.

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 24 2020, 10:02 PM)
if you are infected automatically registered to kkm

how hard to find the rest so long they have your IC?
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Affected and infected different meanings. Perhaps the BNM has more detailed terms. Or else you can just register SSM and claim your online business is affected.

QUOTE(mrg220t @ Mar 24 2020, 10:03 PM)
I thought moratorium is a pause. Meaning as if this 6 months doesn't exist and continue paying after the 6 months the same amount. The interest shouldn't accrue in this 6 months.
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Yea, dont think it will be accrued.

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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Mar 24 2020, 11:08 PM)
pay macam biasa je la. not affected. not like the system kolok
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Now Direct debit from saving account

So now need go to bank tell them pls continue deduct dont stop?

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this is confusing.

I just want to know will the interest will be accrued if apply moratorium ?
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QUOTE(uamcy @ Mar 24 2020, 10:09 PM)
Affected and infected different meanings. Perhaps the BNM has more detailed terms. Or else you can just register SSM and claim your online business is affected.
Yea, dont think it will be accrued.
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well, out of curiosity i did phone 3 of the banks.

'the automatic' im not sure

but previous comms out for affected means, you need provide evidence

if you are opening pasar malam, then you just have to show them your SSM and i dont know...some sort of evidence.. the bank were not losing though

2 options

1. defer (accrued interest)
2. pay only interest for the 6 months
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Loyar buruk... that's wrong info.
Cannot trust your financial advise anymore...
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As mentioned above, we are just discussing here. Official calculation will be determined by the respective banks. Not like I need someone like you to trust me. I can afford to choose my customers and I wouldn't want be responsible to a brick
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QUOTE(genjo @ Mar 24 2020, 10:10 PM)
this is confusing.

I just want to know will the interest will be accrued if apply moratorium ?
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Now Direct debit from saving account

So now need go to bank tell them pls continue deduct dont stop?
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first thing first

is the whole scheme is even auto-applied?

if no then no need

personally im not going to inform bank
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Yea, dont think it will be accrued.
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I think it will. Banks will not eat up the losses as they still need to lay their depositors (fd) and other borrowers
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this moratorium thing basically give u 6 months delay , so after 6 months jus pay like usual la. so ur loan prolong to 6 months longer

right
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 24 2020, 10:45 PM)
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...ns-exce/1849820

Bank Negara announces automatic six-month moratorium on all bank loans — except for credit card balances

KUALA LUMPUR, March 24 — Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) tonight has ordered an automatic six-month moratorium on all bank loans — except for credit card balances — for those affected by the Covid-19 outbreak.

In a statement, BNM said the measure was designed to ease the cash flow of small and medium-sized enterprises and individuals that are likely to be most affected by Covid-19.

“Banking institutions will grant an automatic moratorium on all loan/financing repayments/payments, principal and interest (except for credit card balances) by individuals and SME borrowers/customers for a period of six months from April 1, 2020,” the statement read.

The moratorium was among the additional measures announced by BNM, which it said are designed to ensure that “the financial intermediation function of the financial sector remains intact, access to financing continues to be available and banking institutions remain focused on supporting the economy during the exceptional circumstances”.
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I think it will. Banks will not eat up the losses as they still need to lay their depositors (fd) and other borrowers
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If interests only not so pain. But if the borrowers died, then it will become bad debts eh. sad.gif
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Yes still. interest will be accrued from what I was made to understand. While you do not need to pay them in the next 6 months, you will still end up paying them, albeit in the future

This move is made to protect people's cashflow since many are not making much, if any income
As per my explanation above, that was actually a valid question. Just because you do not need to pay the principal and interest, doesn't mean that the bank would eat the loss. The bank would just consider this a deferred revenue for them which they will collect (likely with interest on top of it) in the future (6 months from April)
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Wait. Does it mean car loan no need to pay for now? Housing loan also??
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For outstanding credit card balances, Bank Negara said customers should be offered the option to convert the outstanding balances into term-loan of not more than three years.

"For corporate borrowers, banking institutions are strongly encouraged to facilitate requests for a moratorium," the letter stated.


https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-for-six-months
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those mortgage loan are owned by CAGAMAS MBS (mortgage bank securities)..

So basically those cagamas mbs bond holder suffer.. become lousy bond..

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Theres still alot of confusion here. I think ill wait for my bank to give letter or anything. Mine just few hundred, if got some extra interest during this time, i rather pay normally
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car loan also? sorry banana here!

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I think it will. Banks will not eat up the losses as they still need to lay their depositors (fd) and other borrowers
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Hello - grant an automatic moratorium on all loan/financing repayments/payments, principal and interest


It says principal and interest
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Automatic or what
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Seriously many msian are dumbfuks, never read whole article and ask stupid questions, spam share, etc...
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Yaa.. i agreed. Most cannot understand what is in the moratorium.

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just pay as usual..
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Hello -  grant an automatic moratorium on all loan/financing repayments/payments, principal and interest
It says principal and interest
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Moratorium on the repayment (of principal and interest). No mention on the moratorium on the accrual (of interest)

Hello. You guys need to get your accounting and financing vocabs up to pace. I don't mean to say "i do this for a living so I must be right" but you need to equip yourself with the right knowledge before engaging in a discussion. Otherwise the discussion will end up being nothing more than a screaming match (to see who can write more)

And if you don't have the capacity to understand the subject matter, it is not wrong to just ask or simply listen/read, instead of replying for the sake of it. Please jangan jadi bodoh sombong. Be humble a bit la.
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No need to pay ur loans for 6 months and no accrued interest whatsoever

Means u pay 3k for ur car now. U can stop paying for 6 months and 6 months later continue paying again

Same goes for housing loan and personal loan

Its automatic blanket moratorium

No u dont have to prove u were affected, because covid affected everybody as there was a 2 week lockdown which affect everyone regardless u are infected or not

And this lockdown might be even extended

So its as simple as that.

Oh credit card not included ya

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Moratorium on the repayment (of principal and interest). No mention on the moratorium on the accrual (of interest)

Hello. You guys need to get your accounting and financing vocabs up to pace. I don't mean to say "i do this for a living so I must be right" but you need to equip yourself with the right knowledge before engaging in a discussion. Otherwise the discussion will end up being nothing more than a screaming match (to see who can write more)

And if you don't have the capacity to understand the subject matter, it is not wrong to just ask or simply listen/read, instead of replying for the sake of it. Please jangan jadi bodoh sombong. Be humble a bit la.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:33 PM)
No need to pay ur loans for 6 months and no accrued interest whatsoever

Means u pay 3k for ur car now. U can stop paying for 6 months and 6 months later continue paying again

Same goes for housing loan and personal loan

Its automatic blanket moratorium

No u dont have to prove u were affected, because covid affected everybody as there was a 2 week lockdown which affect everyone regardless u are infected or not

And this lockdown might be even extended

So its as simple as that.

Oh credit card not included ya
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:33 PM)
No need to pay ur loans for 6 months and no accrued interest whatsoever

Means u pay 3k for ur car now. U can stop paying for 6 months and 6 months later continue paying again

Same goes for housing loan and personal loan

Its automatic blanket moratorium

No u dont have to prove u were affected, because covid affected everybody as there was a 2 week lockdown which affect everyone regardless u are infected or not

And this lockdown might be even extended

So its as simple as that.

Oh credit card not included ya
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who says no accrued interest? rolleyes.gif
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only for SME businesses
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No mention of non-accrual of interests. Only moratorium on the installment payment. i would love to be proven wrong, and I can accept new facts, as long as they are presented in good light

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Moratorium on the repayment (of principal and interest). No mention on the moratorium on the accrual (of interest)

Hello. You guys need to get your accounting and financing vocabs up to pace. I don't mean to say "i do this for a living so I must be right" but you need to equip yourself with the right knowledge before engaging in a discussion. Otherwise the discussion will end up being nothing more than a screaming match (to see who can write more)

And if you don't have the capacity to understand the subject matter, it is not wrong to just ask or simply listen/read, instead of replying for the sake of it. Please jangan jadi bodoh sombong. Be humble a bit la.
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Wow just wow. Delusional at its finest.

Btw I do this for a living too? You’re just an insurance agent it seems so hows accounting your day to day language? Debit credit?

What a joke


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So if I am richfag can I just pay like normal?
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ask them fight at mesin ikan with rm500 modal. who last standing win la.
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Wow just wow. Delusional at its finest.

Btw I do this for a living too? You’re just an insurance agent it seems so hows accounting your day to day language? Debit credit?

What a joke
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hey bro, I am happy to be proven wrong, and I am open to accept new information as long as they are backed with facts presented in good light.
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Before u start barking you are from accounting and finance background , I simply shared that there was no mention of any accrued interest etc. It was blanket all payments and interest and you went on being full retard.
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QUOTE(boyslikeboys @ Mar 24 2020, 10:42 PM)
Before u start barking you are from accounting and finance background , I simply shared that there was no mention of any accrued interest etc. It was blanket all payments and interest and you went on being full retard.
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Ok lah everyone here went full retard.
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who says no accrued interest?  rolleyes.gif
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Dont have interest. Plain and simple english in the bnm letter

Moratorium on principal and interest

So stop thinking too much la u all

Simple things become complicated because of idiots who complicate simple stuff


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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:33 PM)
No need to pay ur loans for 6 months and no accrued interest whatsoever

Means u pay 3k for ur car now. U can stop paying for 6 months and 6 months later continue paying again

Same goes for housing loan and personal loan

Its automatic blanket moratorium

No u dont have to prove u were affected, because covid affected everybody as there was a 2 week lockdown which affect everyone regardless u are infected or not

And this lockdown might be even extended

So its as simple as that.

Oh credit card not included ya
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no.3 in the letter states the otherwise
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:43 PM)
Dont have interest. Plain and simple english in the bnm letter

Moratorium on principal and interest

So stop thinking too much la u all

Simple things become complicated because of idiots who complicate simple stuff
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please look up investopedia on the meaning of moratorium before you spout your bullshit here smile.gif
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6 months still charge interest or not?
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:33 PM)
No need to pay ur loans for 6 months and no accrued interest whatsoever

Means u pay 3k for ur car now. U can stop paying for 6 months and 6 months later continue paying again

Same goes for housing loan and personal loan

Its automatic blanket moratorium

No u dont have to prove u were affected, because covid affected everybody as there was a 2 week lockdown which affect everyone regardless u are infected or not

And this lockdown might be even extended

So its as simple as that.

Oh credit card not included ya
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it is not that simple lah..
read and understand the T&C .

it say you have to show that you are effected... and cannot pay the loan ... eg got terminated,
no free ride man nod.gif



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moratorium means delay or temporary period where no payment is required.

however, normally interest will still be charged and after the moratorium, the payment amount will be recalculated to incorporate the accrued interest. So essentially, one would pay interest on interest accrued (ie not paid during the moratorium).

Look at the letter 1 shared by Buffolo Soldier at post 89, the footnote 1.
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I will pay as usual
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CC will be the one killing everyone else.
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So bank stock will gg for their coming gg? as the loan principal and interest is granted delay ?
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Each monthly instalment to the home loan consists of credit towards the principal amount and a portion for interest to the bank. The moratorium is temporarily stopping repayment of both.
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Even bank industry have to suffer? they still need to pay FD interest leh
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:46 PM)
it is not that simple lah..
read  and understand the T&C  .

it say you have to show  that you are effected...  and cannot pay the loan  ... eg    got terminated, 
no free ride  man  nod.gif
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so what's make the different before and after the announcement by BNM?
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BNM has neglected the life insurance policy payments .

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This 6 months moratorium indicates MCO besar kemungkinan akan dipanjangkan?

Its abit out of sense 2 weeks MCO resulted in 6 months moratorium and they announce it now and not on near end of MCO unless there's insider knows MCO will most probably extending.


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QUOTE(and85rew @ Mar 24 2020, 10:44 PM)
no.3 in the letter states the otherwise
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Profit accrued

This one is for those islamic loan

Conventional loan dont have
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This 6 months moratorium indicates MCO besar kemungkinan akan dipanjangkan?

Its abit out of sense 2 weeks MCO resulted in 6 months moratorium and they announce it now and not on near end of MCO unless there's insider knows MCO will most probably extending.
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Confirm MCO extended

The question is extend by how long

I am expecting at the minimum another 2 weeks
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so what's make the different before and after the announcement by BNM?
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this below can apply the benefit with the bank . sure they check you kau kau . nod.gif

SME business , profit down cannot pay loan.

who ever loss job, now cannot pay loan .
who ever can show loss in income and cannot pay the loan .



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BNM has neglected the life insurance policy payments .
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:46 PM)

it say you have to show  that you are effected...  and cannot pay the loan  ... eg    got terminated, 
no free ride  man  nod.gif
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This was before the BNM's announcement today.

So it's now automatic for all, and yes, there's no accrued interest and no hit on your CCRIS.
They aren't gonna announce an "automatic" relief where the whole country pays more interest to banks at the end.
No one will "automatically" pay more.

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:46 PM)
moratorium means delay or temporary period where no payment is required.

however, normally interest will still be charged and after the moratorium, the payment amount will be recalculated to incorporate the accrued interest. So essentially, one would pay interest on interest accrued (ie not paid during the moratorium).

Look at the letter 1 shared by Buffolo Soldier at post 89, the footnote 1.
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wait, so meaning additional interest on the interest itself?
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The only part i dont get it is 1st automatic then ask to provide proof. What part of automatic bnm dont understand? If auto, no need proof = all loaner will get this exemption. If need to give proof, then its not auto. Just say only those who affected can apply it would be easier word
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QUOTE(bloodynames @ Mar 24 2020, 10:56 PM)
This was before the BNM's announcement today.

So it's now automatic for all, and yes, there's no accrued interest and no hit on your CCRIS.
They aren't gonna announce an "automatic" relief where the whole country pays more interest to banks at the end.
No one will "automatically" pay more.
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i wonder what banks face will looks like now
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Mar 24 2020, 10:56 PM)
The only part i dont get it is 1st automatic then ask to provide proof. What part of automatic bnm dont understand? If auto, no need proof = all loaner will get this exemption. If need to give proof, then its not auto. Just say only those who affected can apply it would be easier word
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QUOTE(dman @ Mar 24 2020, 10:48 PM)
This 6 months moratorium indicates MCO besar kemungkinan akan dipanjangkan?

Its abit out of sense 2 weeks MCO resulted in 6 months moratorium and they announce it now and not on near end of MCO unless there's insider knows MCO will most probably extending.
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It's dangerous if they don't extend because most likely will over 2000. It takes time for them to recover also. Incubation period 2-14days. Need another 2 more weeks for safety.
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Mar 24 2020, 09:47 PM)
So bank stock will gg for their coming gg? as the loan principal and interest is granted delay ?
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delay 6 months interest, like this also GG?


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Will the bank also will stop paying our Fixed Deposit interest ?
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only if you are directly affected

1. fired/terminated
2. unable to drive grabcar no income etc
3. etc...
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QUOTE(sohailayhun @ Mar 24 2020, 10:02 PM)
how bout AH LONG loan.....? 6 month also....?
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 10:58 PM)
delay 6 months interest, like this also GG?
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abang, interest and principal
you think bank no need cash flow ah?
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QUOTE(boyslikeboys @ Mar 24 2020, 10:38 PM)
Wow just wow. Delusional at its finest.

Btw I do this for a living too? You’re just an insurance agent it seems so hows accounting your day to day language? Debit credit?

What a joke
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Why some /ktards don't read properly but still can be so confident and use personal attack 1 ah?

Read Note 1. Which part you don't understand?

"Including the continued accrual of interest/profit on the amount owed during the moratorium period and higher overall payments that the borrower/customer may bear due to the extended repayment tenure."
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can apply for loans now??
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 24 2020, 10:59 PM)
abang, interest and principal
you think bank no need cash flow ah?
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 24 2020, 10:33 PM)
No need to pay ur loans for 6 months and no accrued interest whatsoever

Means u pay 3k for ur car now. U can stop paying for 6 months and 6 months later continue paying again

Same goes for housing loan and personal loan

Its automatic blanket moratorium

No u dont have to prove u were affected, because covid affected everybody as there was a 2 week lockdown which affect everyone regardless u are infected or not

And this lockdown might be even extended

So its as simple as that.

Oh credit card not included ya
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This should be correct. Banking stocks should tank tmr hahaha
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KUALA LUMPUR: Banking customers, including individuals and small and medium sized enterprises (SMEs) will be allowed to delay the repayment of their existing loans, including mortgages and hire-purchases, for a period of six months.

This is part of the central bank’s new measures to assist borrowers experiencing temporary financial constraints due to the Covid-19 outbreak.

In a letter to the heads of financial institutions today, Bank Negara said the automatic moratorium will be effective from April 1.

"Banking institutions should provide individuals and SME borrowers with adequate information on how the suspended loan/financing repayments/payments will be treated during the moratorium period," the central bank said.

The automatic moratorium is applicable to ringgit-denominated loans or financing that are not in arrears exceeding 90 days as at April 1, 2020.

The moratorium does not apply to credit card balances.

For outstanding credit card balances, Bank Negara said customers should be offered the option to convert the outstanding balances into term-loan of not more than three years.

"For corporate borrowers, banking institutions are strongly encouraged to facilitate requests for a moratorium," the letter stated.

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Where does it say that proof is required ?

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 24 2020, 09:52 PM)
only if you are directly affected

1. fired/terminated
2. unable to drive grabcar no income etc
3. etc...
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"Automatic" should apply to all la. If affected people need to apply, it's not automatic anymore.
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gambar edit bnm no announce pun
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Where does it say that proof is required ?
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/k/ kuat tipu.

better follow official letter from BNM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 24 2020, 10:54 PM)
WTF
tomorrow KLSE 900points?
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sacrifice the bank.

All other counters that are highly geared like construction, O&G, utilities all UUU BBB cause big part of their expenses are bank interest charges.
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This should be correct. Banking stocks should tank tmr hahaha
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 24 2020, 10:59 PM)
abang, interest and principal
you think bank no need cash flow ah?
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Not the first time there was a moratorium. There was one when malaysia had that big flood some years back. No bank collapsed.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 24 2020, 09:54 PM)
Car loan? Asb loan?

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what is the procedure to continue paying?
what is the procedure to not continue paying? interest?
bank auto may not be the auto that the public thinks.
need to go to bank or not?
later everyone gather at the bank and spread virus.
hello bank, please give a better guideline

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BNM have tasked the banks to provide its customers with information on how the suspended loan/financing payments/repayments will be treated during the six months’ period and the options available for them to resume payment once the period is over.

However, a footnote at the letter pointed out that there will still be an accrual of interest. nod.gif



so where got free lunch
cos you still need pay the accrual Interest ya .







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abang, interest and principal
you think bank no need cash flow ah?
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Nowadays banks are very well capitalised and have a lot of capital conservation buffer, thanks to the lesson learned from global financial crisis.

In layman terms, it means that over the years BNM have forced banks to build up huge cash reserves which they cannot touch in normal times. But this is a crisis, so BNM now allow them to use these reserves.
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:08 PM)
from the MM link
BNM have tasked the banks to provide its customers with information on how the suspended loan/financing payments/repayments will be treated during the six months’ period and the options available for them to resume payment once the period is over.

However, a footnote at the letter pointed out that there will still be an accrual of interest. nod.gif
so where got free lunch 
cos you  still need pay the  accrual Interest    ya .
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What is the meaning of accrual interest?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 24 2020, 11:07 PM)
what is the procedure to continue paying?
what is the procedure to not continue paying? interest?
bank auto may not be the auto that the public thinks.
need to go to bank or not?
later everyone gather at the bank and spread virus.
hello bank, please give a better guideline
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Just wait tomorrow. I'm sure they will announce it in proper way
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 24 2020, 11:07 PM)
what is the procedure to continue paying?
what is the procedure to not continue paying? interest?
bank auto may not be the auto that the public thinks.
need to go to bank or not?
later everyone gather at the bank and spread virus.
hello bank, please give a better guideline
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Chill la. The BNM circular just came out few hours ago.

Banks also received it few hours ago only, how they formulate all these procedures? Give them some time.
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“However, a footnote at the letter pointed out that there will still be an accrual of interest.”

Ktards so naive self-declare no need pay interest .... lol

Some more self- declare bank stocks go down and construction stocks go up cos no need pay interest .... so naive...

Nothing is free in this world ....read properly
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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Mar 24 2020, 11:01 PM)
Why some /ktards don't read properly but still can be so confident and use personal attack 1 ah?

Read Note 1. Which part you don't understand?

"Including the continued accrual of interest/profit on the amount owed during the moratorium period and higher overall payments that the borrower/customer may bear due to the extended repayment tenure."
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Bagi can la. Who attacked who .. anyway my previous post mentioned , I quoted from the surface since there was no mentioned of accrued interest.. understand?
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Mar 24 2020, 10:04 PM)
I want continue paying loan instalment how?

I dont want to stop since bank still charge interest on my loan
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This is for housing loan?
No such interest for car loan right?

Thanks
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What is the meaning of accrual interest?
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Accrual of interest simply mean the charging of interest.

Basically if you take advantage of the moratorium, it means you don't have to pay the bank for 6 months. But interest will still continue to be charged, and you will end up paying slightly more to the bank.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Mar 24 2020, 09:48 PM)
6 months still charge interest or not?
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Interest will not be waived... means gg after 6 months
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so if i understand correctly, every loan can be suspended up to 6 month including interest but need to pay interest during suspended time. this will not include cc
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me noob economy and bursa here

why share price of bank terjun lombong it affect the bank badly

sedangkan aset or duit bank tak hilang pun


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so if i understand correctly, every loan can be suspended up to 6 month including interest but need to pay interest during suspended time. this will not include cc
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No. You don't need to pay interest during the 6 month moratorium. But it will add to your principal
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Accrual of interest simply mean the charging of interest.

Basically if you take advantage of the moratorium, it means you don't have to pay the bank for 6 months. But interest will still continue to be charged, and you will end up paying slightly more to the bank.
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Thank you. Is this applicable to car loan?
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so if i understand correctly, every loan can be suspended up to 6 month including interest but need to pay interest during suspended time. this will not include cc
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No understand... suspend loan including interest.. then need to pay interest.. which means?
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“However, a footnote at the letter pointed out that there will still be an accrual of interest.”

Ktards so naive  self-declare no need pay interest .... lol

Some more self- declare bank stocks go down and construction stocks go up cos no need pay interest .... so naive...

Nothing is free in this world ....read properly
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so you meaning to say this 6 month moratorium will not affect the bank's profitability materially?
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No. You don't need to pay interest during the 6 month moratorium. But it will add to your principal
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let say house loan. there are half interest n half principal. during 6 month everything can be suspended. let say during normal time, u delay u need to pay penalty. that penalty become part of principal for this case?
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so you meaning to say this 6 month moratorium will not affect the bank's profitability materially?
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if you want to buy stock, you would buy when US market crash.

or you can even buy tomorrow IF the market reacts to this negatively.

ask yourself, will people be happy with this policy?

inbe4 if people bankrupt then bank can make even more money :x

inbe4 this is why ahlong never kill debtor, siapa nak bayar?

like this also dont understand, dont bullshit talk about stock market la, want to show us your portfolio?
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:13 PM)
me noob economy and bursa here

why share price of bank terjun lombong it affect the bank badly

sedangkan aset or duit bank tak hilang pun
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Imagine you got several house that you havent finish paying their loan. You rent out these houses to people and collect rent.

Suddenly government issue order saying people affected by Covid 19 can delay their rent for 6 months but you must continue paying your loan for your houses and you have several renters affected by covid.

Long term no effect, but short term maybe huge effect. But unless this spread continues uncontrolled, its not THAT huge of an effect.
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No understand... suspend loan including interest.. then need to pay interest.. which means?
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need to charge, means you pay more after that la.

not asking you to pay INTEREST ONLY during that 6 months.


6 months NO NEED to pay at all.


SURVIVE That 6 months first.
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QUOTE(soulhunter87 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:17 PM)
let say house loan. there are half interest n half principal. during 6 month everything can be suspended. let say during normal time, u delay u need to pay penalty. that penalty become part of principal for this case?
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This is not "normal time". You can get free delay for 6 months and not be slapped with any penalty.

However, interest will still continue to accumulate on the outstanding amount.
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:13 PM)
me noob economy and bursa here

why share price of bank terjun lombong it affect the bank badly

sedangkan aset or duit bank tak hilang pun
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it is actually positive, but for people that have 5% knowledge, they see bank profit suffering.

but people that look at the ECONOMY, it is a positive thing.

bad debt is an even worse nightmare for bank, comparing with 6 months DELAYED profit.

QUOTE(changejob @ Mar 24 2020, 11:20 PM)
Imagine you got several house that you havent finish paying their loan. You rent out these houses to people and collect rent.

Suddenly government issue order saying people affected by Covid 19 can delay their rent for 6 months but you must continue paying your loan for your houses and you have several renters affected by covid.

Long term no effect, but short term maybe huge effect. But unless this spread continues uncontrolled, its not THAT huge of an effect.
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long term its positive, short term is nothing ( comparing with US Market meltdown )


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I heard they do this because gomen will do full lockdown for 2 months minimum or 6 months the longest. Not sure true or not.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 11:19 PM)
if you want to buy stock, you would buy when US market crash.

or you can even buy tomorrow IF the market reacts to this negatively.

ask yourself, will people be happy with this policy?

inbe4 if people bankrupt then bank can make even more money :x

inbe4 this is why ahlong never kill debtor, siapa nak bayar?

like this also dont understand, dont bullshit talk about stock market la, want to show us your portfolio?
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lol am asking a simple question, why you triggered? There's two sides to the argument here. We'll see how the banking stocks will react to this tmr.
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Jgn plak penyewa rumah tanak byr Sewa plak... Aku byr Bank.. Ko hutang dgn org.. Bukan Bank... Sialan penyewa ambik kesempatan WhatsApp nk delay byr Sewa... Masak la ko nk bayar hutang 6 bulan dgn aku nanti.
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This is not "normal time". You can get free delay for 6 months and not be slapped with any penalty.

However, interest will still continue to accumulate on the outstanding amount.
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that is pretty bad if loan still early stage. but hey, if its helping someone then okay
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Accrued interest meaning

Apr : RM100 interest
May : RM100 interest
Jun : RM100 interest
Jul : RM100 interest
Aug : RM100 interest
Sep : RM100 interest

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr to Sep interest + Oct principal & interest

or

October : Pay Apr to Oct principal + Apr to Oct interest

or

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr interest

Apa mcm?
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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:12 PM)
Interest will not be waived... means gg after 6 months
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Bank restructure the payment amount or pay accrued interest at the end of the term?
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lol am asking a simple question, why you triggered? There's two sides to the argument here. We'll see how the banking stocks will react to this tmr.
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Can't wait to see what happens too.

In theory, giving the moratorium is supposed to help more borrowers to ultimately be able to repay their loan and thus improve bank profitability. In addition, allowing banks to dip into their capital buffer should be a positive because they have additional capital to utilise now. In a perfect market bank shares should rally...

But the market is in panic mode now. Nobody can predict what the market will do tomorrow.

Lets see..

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that is pretty bad if loan still early stage. but hey, if its helping someone then okay
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You can opt to continue monthly payment if you want avoid interest. But in my opinion, you won't save much also since interest rate now so low. Might as well just take advantage of the moratorium. Let the bank charge the interest and maintain your cash balance.

Moratorium is meant for people who are really, really tight with cash flow.
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lol am asking a simple question, why you triggered? There's two sides to the argument here. We'll see how the banking stocks will react to this tmr.
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ill intent question obviously .

there is no 2 side of an argument if you want to look at the big picture.


only a heartless capitalist would care about banking stock.

but if they can survive US meltdown, they can celebrate this good policy from BNM





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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 11:23 PM)
it is actually positive, but for people that have 5% knowledge, they see bank profit suffering.

but people that look at the ECONOMY, it is a positive thing.

bad debt is an even worse nightmare for bank, comparing with 6 months DELAYED profit.
long term its positive, short term is nothing ( comparing with US Market meltdown )
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QUOTE(changejob @ Mar 24 2020, 11:20 PM)
Imagine you got several house that you havent finish paying their loan. You rent out these houses to people and collect rent.

Suddenly government issue order saying people affected by Covid 19 can delay their rent for 6 months but you must continue paying your loan for your houses and you have several renters affected by covid.

Long term no effect, but short term maybe huge effect. But unless this spread continues uncontrolled, its not THAT huge of an effect.
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so actually bursa share price for bank nose down will not affect the bank directly la

but the same can't be said for other business say like maxis

if maxis share nose down their aset/cash and business also down?

but during us suprime crisis got bank bankrap kan like lehman brother kaitu
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if take the moratorium for my mortgage loan, later next year cannot deduct interest from rental income, so kena pay more tax

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:35 PM)
so actually bursa share price for bank nose down will not affect the bank directly la

but the same can't be said for other business say like maxis

if maxis share nose down their aset/cash and business also down?

but during us suprime crisis got bank bankrap kan like lehman brother kaitu
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if share price lower, they happy.

they buy back the share, means they give less divident out. ahhahahaha

like head count la. less headcount to outsider, means less profit to outsider. haha.

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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 11:33 PM)
ill intent question obviously .

there is no 2 side of an argument if you want to look at the big picture.
only a heartless capitalist would care about banking stock.

but if they can survive US meltdown, they can celebrate this good policy from BNM
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haha so following your logic, anyone who profit from this pandemic and recession is heartless?
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:35 PM)
so actually bursa share price for bank nose down will not affect the bank directly la

but the same can't be said for other business say like maxis

if maxis share nose down their aset/cash and business also down?

but during us suprime crisis got bank bankrap kan like lehman brother kaitu
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Share price go up or down has no direct effect on the company's business or asset most of the time... Its just a reflection of investors' confidence in the company... Investor have confidence in your company, your share price flies. Investor have no confidence in your company, your share price drops.




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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Mar 24 2020, 11:38 PM)
ermm
if take the moratorium for my mortgage loan, later next year cannot deduct interest from rental income, so kena pay more tax
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you definitely can continue paying because loan nowadays are fixible.


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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 11:38 PM)
if share price lower, they happy.

they buy back the share, means they give less divident out. ahhahahaha

like head count la. less headcount to outsider, means less profit to outsider. haha.
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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Mar 24 2020, 11:27 PM)
Can't wait to see what happens too.

In theory, giving the moratorium is supposed to help more borrowers to ultimately be able to repay their loan and thus improve bank profitability. In addition, allowing banks to dip into their capital buffer should be a positive because they have additional capital to utilise now. In a perfect market bank shares should rally...

But the market is in panic mode now. Nobody can predict what the market will do tomorrow.

Lets see..
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bank sectors will not affect much 1 la. cimb maybank rhb under gov. Plenty of cash from taxes. They don't depend on the shares market to survive.

Hong leong n public bank are strong and rich. 6 months delay will not affect them much.

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interest jalan

bank seem nice but at the same time make profittttt
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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Mar 24 2020, 11:39 PM)
Share price go up or down has no direct effect on the company's business or asset most of the time... Its just a reflection of investors' confidence in the company... Investor have confidence in your company, your share price flies. Investor have no confidence in your company, your share price drops.
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bukan apa sometimes i feel like bodo when i read

dow jones down

billions wiped from apple stock values

this loss go to where?
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 11:23 PM)
it is actually positive, but for people that have 5% knowledge, they see bank profit suffering.

but people that look at the ECONOMY, it is a positive thing.

bad debt is an even worse nightmare for bank, comparing with 6 months DELAYED profit.
long term its positive, short term is nothing ( comparing with US Market meltdown )
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Agree. This is quite helpful for those B40 & M40 actually. They can use the extra cash to paid off credit card balance for example. Restructure back the finance. I don't understand why some people worry about bank not making any profits. Lol
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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:38 PM)
haha so following your logic, anyone who profit from this pandemic and recession is heartless?
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for poorfags, they are looking at jobless.
for the rich, they are so fcked because their business/share/business future profit are going to bleed them dry.

so , really, your question is invalid.

sure there are some people coincidental holding some cash then its stay to get rich.
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Will this moratorium apply to housing loan under company as well?
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QUOTE(FelixCo @ Mar 24 2020, 11:43 PM)
Agree. This is quite helpful for those B40 & M40 actually. They can use the extra cash to paid off credit card balance for example. Restructure back the finance. I don't understand why some people worry about bank not making any profits. Lol
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Banking business never on losing side lorr. End up gov will bail them if worst come. This moratorium will not affect them much
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 24 2020, 09:51 PM)
so if i continue the payment, it will be 100% to cover principle amount? sounds good to me
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Will this moratorium apply to housing loan under company as well?
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:43 PM)
bukan apa sometimes i feel like bodo when i read

dow jones down

billions wiped from apple stock values

this loss go to where?
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Go back to the investors who make money via short seller. The money still there, but the investor will opt for safer instrument like bond or gold. So, stock market lose which indicates weak economy.
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For hire purchase where interest already built in to the repayments. Definitely interest won't be capitalized. However, if the banks refuse to take this loss, the banks might invoke some clause in that maze of a hire purchase agreement and argue their way out. It is up to the consumer to take this to court.

For home loans, the bnm letter leaves alot of room for banks to wiggle out of not suspending interest calculation. The fact that it's not specifically stated in the bnm letter that banks cannot at a later date capitalise any interest accrued is enough for the banks to do it.

Anyways it's a win either way. 6 months of freed up cash flow is a win for the economy.
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:35 PM)
so actually bursa share price for bank nose down will not affect the bank directly la

but the same can't be said for other business say like maxis

if maxis share nose down their aset/cash and business also down?

but during us suprime crisis got bank bankrap kan like lehman brother kaitu
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Share prices doesn't affect a company profit. Like your example, Maxis shares price up or down doesn't affect their profit or loss.

This however affects investors.
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:43 PM)
bukan apa sometimes i feel like bodo when i read

dow jones down

billions wiped from apple stock values

this loss go to where?
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pension funds

like EPF of USA

they got burned.


BUT, USA can print money so its fine rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Aside from helping people/SME's who are tight on cash flow, in theory, these measures should also stimulate consumption a bit as well, right?
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QUOTE(FelixCo @ Mar 24 2020, 11:47 PM)
Go back to the investors who make money via short seller. The money still there, but the investor will opt for safer instrument like bond or gold. So, stock market lose which indicates weak economy.
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hahaha still blur i really bodo la about this share/bursa

anyway thanks trying explain to me
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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ Mar 24 2020, 11:46 PM)
Banking business never on losing side lorr. End up gov will bail them if worst come. This moratorium will not affect them much
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Correct. They are too big too fail. The only way they will lose if everybody decide to fork out their money from the bank. Which of course not everybody will get.
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ayam have money, ayam pay lor.
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QUOTE(changejob @ Mar 24 2020, 11:47 PM)
Share prices doesn't affect a company profit. Like your example, Maxis shares price up or down doesn't affect their profit or loss.

This however affects investors.
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okay this one i understand dy biggrin.gif thanks

QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 24 2020, 11:48 PM)
pension funds

like EPF of USA

they got burned.
BUT, USA can print money so its fine  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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this one cant hahaha biar la

actually i only look at dow jones number during the crisis only

don't know why biggrin.gif
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Not sure how this moratorium period works but it should be added to everyone's loan agreements in black and white to extend the last payment date.
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Need call bank to understand more. Nice...extra cash for other purpose...good news for everyone.
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 10:53 PM)
okay this one i understand dy  biggrin.gif  thanks
this one cant hahaha biar la

actually i only look at dow jones number during the crisis only

don't know why  biggrin.gif
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so what? now go open rm1000 forex . go trade .market so volatile now. it good. lose big win big.

u dont need that all theory or shit... they dont even trade. why you want believe ktard?

in the end. price and emotion will decide where market shall go..
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hey bro, I am happy to be proven wrong, and I am open to accept new information as long as they are backed with facts presented in good light.
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You are wrong.. let's take car finance for instance..

Your payment schedule and interest is already locked. I.e. the interest is a fixed amount. Even if you paid off earlier, you will still be charged the same amount of interest as somebody who settled your car loan at the end of tenure.


So your theory of accrued interest during moratorium is impossible for car loans at least..

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I tak paham.la. but will need to understand coz need to pay car loan. Will call bank
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still need pay interest is it...in the end u just need to pay more
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Will this grace period of loans reflect in our CCRIS/CTOS scores?
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Only who effected not all..confirm by my friend..call bank rakyat..still need to pay
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shit.... i rather take MC then go to work as bank officer... picking call like no tomorrow , tomorrow
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Will this grace period of loans reflect in our CCRIS/CTOS scores?
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From the last bullet point, the answer seems a firm no.. which is hugely important because some banks will record this as a negative. But if you show this letter to that bank, maybe they will reverse their decision to record this on our credit score.

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QUOTE(doomvein @ Mar 25 2020, 12:00 AM)
so what? now go open rm1000 forex . go trade .market so volatile now. it good. lose big win big.

u dont need that all theory or shit... they dont even trade. why you want believe ktard?

in the end. price and emotion will decide where market shall go..
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it's not about to believe or not

i just asking the general question about share/bursa

at least i learn something

fyi i never learn basic economy/account during school/uni days

all i know just reading from news smile.gif
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Bro jgn pancut awal sume. Read in 1st page mention accrued interest also will be waived
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If read the BNM statement, Assist borrower affected by COVID-19 Outbreak

if affected, then halt all loan payment for any servicing loan for 6 month automatically
if not, then pay as usual

But, how should bank know i am affected or not?
Still need to be apply right?
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QUOTE(yoshiki81 @ Mar 25 2020, 12:02 AM)
Only who effected not all..confirm by my friend..call bank rakyat..still need to pay
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The rule right now is only those who lost their jobs, took unpaid leave, got infected, etc. Can claim suspension of loans..

You need to submit documents of evidence to the banks too.. i.e. bank statement, letter from employer, etc..

I think that what it means by automatic. But we dont clearly know enough until banks officially come out and make their announcements.. probably tomorrow.

Everything is a competition with these banks btw. Let's see who offers their customers real good packages.
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QUOTE(uk9089 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:27 PM)
Accrued interest meaning

Apr : RM100 interest
May : RM100 interest
Jun : RM100 interest
Jul : RM100 interest
Aug : RM100 interest
Sep :  RM100 interest

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr to Sep interest + Oct principal & interest

or

October : Pay Apr to Oct principal + Apr to Oct interest

or

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr interest

Apa mcm?
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not so simple, as there is interest on interest.

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr interest + interest rate x (RM600) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 12:06 AM)
If read the BNM statement, Assist borrower affected by COVID-19 Outbreak

if affected, then halt all loan payment for any servicing loan for 6 month automatically
if not, then pay as usual

But, how should bank know i am affected or not?
Still need to be apply right?
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That is the weird thing, if you apply is not automatic anymore. And manual one already announced by bank before this. Somehow this is different than the previous announced by bank.
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That is the weird thing, if you apply is not automatic anymore. And manual one already announced by bank before this. Somehow this is different than the previous announced by bank.
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still automatic if accross all servicing product
not that u need to apply for house loan, than hire purchase, than personal loan
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Mar 25 2020, 12:08 AM)
That is the weird thing, if you apply is not automatic anymore. And manual one already announced by bank before this. Somehow this is different than the previous announced by bank.
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Precisely. Automatic means automatic lar..adoi
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liamness rejoice!
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Right on cue la..

Told you the banks will do everything in their powers to help people that have debt.

Debt is the most powerful tool in the world.

Also, this move is just as bad for savers & bond holders as the fed/bnm printing unlimited money to bail out debters like myself. Haha..

That's the next step btw. Banks printing cash in overdrive.. negative interest rates ftw.
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QUOTE(bloodynames @ Mar 24 2020, 10:56 PM)
This was before the BNM's announcement today.

So it's now automatic for all, and yes, there's no accrued interest and no hit on your CCRIS.
They aren't gonna announce an "automatic" relief where the whole country pays more interest to banks at the end.
No one will "automatically" pay more.
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Sounds logic bro.
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:04 PM)
it's not about to believe or not

i just asking the general question about share/bursa

at least i learn something

fyi i never learn basic economy/account during school/uni days

all i know just reading from news smile.gif
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dont need to learn lah. just go open rm1000 trade forex bet rm10 cuci rm30. lose rm10 must cut . dont wait wait. follow that rule.see if u can tahan. if u break the rules. dont ever touch this gambling machine again.

u want be fish in bursa? then go. epf and mutual fund manager welcome you. they know better than you. better info access.

what u have as edge? if u dont know your edge. why u want go trade bursa? . so if u want find your edge. go trade now. dont wait.

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 12:01 AM)
You are wrong.. let's take car finance for instance..

Your payment schedule and interest is already locked. I.e. the interest is a fixed amount. Even if you paid off earlier, you will still be charged the same amount of interest as somebody who settled your car loan at the end of tenure.
So your theory of accrued interest during moratorium is impossible for car loans at least..
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You have not done early settlement before don't you? If done hire purchase early settlement for car hire purchase 3 times already and there's always a rebate for early settlement.
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Key word is automatic right? Just sit back and bank will do right?
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flippers cukur, own more than 10 properties suddenly all duneed pay loan for 6 months! kerajaan PN memang prihatin!
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 12:01 AM)
You are wrong.. let's take car finance for instance..

Your payment schedule and interest is already locked. I.e. the interest is a fixed amount. Even if you paid off earlier, you will still be charged the same amount of interest as somebody who settled your car loan at the end of tenure.
So your theory of accrued interest during moratorium is impossible for car loans at least..
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Car loans are simple interest, but there are still ways to penalize borrowers that default their payments. The banks can always accumulate the non-payment and apply interest on them (i.e. interest on the interest). This is easy, usually used for defaulters.

Also you are the one who is wrong about the interest calculation for early settlement. There is this thing called rebate. Whatever interest payable that has not been paid would be rebated upon early settlement. There are calculators to calculate actual outstanding of your hire purchase, find it

As for reducing balance more commonly used for mortgages, asbf, it is also easy to accrue the interest. Interest for these loans are charged on a daily basis, just accumulate the interest accrued each day for the number of days until you make a loan repayment (which reduces your loan balance)

Any of these ways are possible but we don't know yet what the banks will decide. I doubt they will agree to absorb the cost though, the money they lend to their customers are borrowed too and they are charged interest on these funds as well

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Fuck this is confusing, i though the simpler explanation is you delay 6 month pay. That means if your loan is meant to end in January 2030 it should now end July 2030.

Isnt this right?
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i rmb few days ago, got ppl ask about this, got many stupid ktards say bank will all die if they do so, they wont do it.


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No need to think. Just pay as usual.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 25 2020, 12:26 AM)
Car loans are simple interest, but there are still ways to penalize borrowers that default their payments. The banks can always accumulate the non-payment and apply interest on them (i.e. interest on the interest). This is easy, usually used for defaulters.

Also you are the one who is wrong about the interest calculation for early settlement. There is this thing called rebate. Whatever interest payable that has not been paid would be rebated upon early settlement. There are calculators to calculate actual outstanding of your hire purchase, find it

As for reducing balance more commonly used for mortgages, asbf, it is also easy to accrue the interest. Interest for these loans are charged on a daily basis, just accumulate the interest accrued each day for the number of days until you make a loan repayment (which reduces your loan balance)

Any of these ways are possible but we don't know yet what the banks will decide. I doubt they will agree to absorb the cost though, the money they lend to their customers are borrowed too and they are charged interest on these funds as well
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Sigh.. A rebate is a rebate.

That is totally different from saying that the hire purchase interest will increase or reduce due to the suspension of loan payments..

You cant suddenly accrue more intetest on your car loan. It's not possible when your payment schedule and interest is fixed from start to finish.. now, at the end of the tenure, the bank may give you a discount for early settlement or a penalty for being late. But again, that is totally different from scenario like this where you are lawfully allowed to suspend your loan for 6 months. Your payment schedule and interest is still fixed.. the only thing that has changed is the end date. That's all..

And your example of accrued interest still doesnt work for car or even personal loans where the interest isn't based on days but rather on your payment schedule. I.e. 60 monthly payments of X amount until the end of Y date.. the interest has already been precalculated and built in..

Hence, the banks cannot charge you interest whilst your loan ia being suspended. It's pretty clear to me on this rule. And my example of how would you charge interest on predetermined or fixed loans such as hire purchase is one of the compelling reasons why the banks won't charge interest on any loan suspension. Including your house loan. They have got to be fair and apply all equal rules across the board.. so if they can't do it for one type of loan, means they should be consisrent and not apply additional interest across the board..

At least that's my logic to this.

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What does this mean in layman's term? I can temporarily stop paying my car loan for the next six months then continue after that?
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Dn play play, better check with bank
Based on the letter, both bank and u need to have consensus on this matter so that u are granted with moratorium (not automatically) and shall continue paying if u can afford
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 09:56 PM)
Yes still. interest will be accrued from what I was made to understand. While you do not need to pay them in the next 6 months, you will still end up paying them, albeit in the future

This move is made to protect people's cashflow since many are not making much, if any income
As per my explanation above, that was actually a valid question. Just because you do not need to pay the principal and interest, doesn't mean that the bank would eat the loss. The bank would just consider this a deferred revenue for them which they will collect (likely with interest on top of it) in the future (6 months from April)
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Hire purchase interest already calculated. How does this affect us and the bank?
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Good luck try to prove to them that u are affected. Naik turun bank just for this, if u really were affected then it's worth it to defer payment for 6 months, but if u slightly or not affected at all, stop wasting your time.
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My loans all auto-debit and SI.

How about that? For sure kene tolak punya kan next month?
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 24 2020, 10:02 PM)
if you are infected automatically registered to kkm

how hard to find the rest so long they have your IC?
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Affected and infected is 2 different things. Affected also mean if you have a paycut, no income and so on. Infected, yes you contract the virus. Now the article says affected.
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So, conclusionnya no need to do anything & pay loan after 6 months or what?

Malas baca from the start. Huehuehue.
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 24 2020, 09:52 PM)
only if you are directly affected

1. fired/terminated
2. unable to drive grabcar no income etc
3. etc...
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lanjiao... they automatic la.. only if u don wan to postpone u can go bank say u don wan
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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Mar 25 2020, 01:31 AM)
Good luck try to prove to them that u are affected. Naik turun bank just for this, if u really were affected then it's worth it to defer payment for 6 months, but if u slightly or not affected at all, stop wasting your time.
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Its automatic for all.
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tldr
its just forwarding the loan jer,still need to pay later...and interest countinue to add up
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it can be complicated or easy

non complicated meaning ur payment schedule just +6 months

take it like a 'sabbatical' in ur payment, no additional interests..

complicated meaning the interests for the 6 months is then apportioned to the remaining terms


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Must have a catch one. That's why this thread is 13 pages long.

I haven't read the statement by BNM but will do later and will call them first thing tomorrow.

Things I care about this is:
1. does it accrue interest for 6 months starting 1st April if automatic moratorium
2. does it affect my CCRIS
3. do I need to apply or something (asking for an individual who is a NEET)
4. what's the catch?

Although some of you already mention it doesn't accrue interest, some say got. This shit gets complicated. There must be a catch somewhere.

t. not a financial/accounting major so no kecam please
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QUOTE(bara bara api @ Mar 25 2020, 06:41 AM)
Must have a catch one. That's why this thread is 13 pages long.

I haven't read the statement by BNM but will do later and will call them first thing tomorrow.

Things I care about this is:
1. does it accrue interest for 6 months starting 1st April if automatic moratorium
2. does it affect my CCRIS
3. do I need to apply or something (asking for an individual who is a NEET)
4. what's the catch?

Although some of you already mention it doesn't accrue interest, some say got. This shit gets complicated. There must be a catch somewhere.

t. not a financial/accounting major so no kecam please
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bnm say is automatically applies to all individual and SME borrowers. SO if it is automatic, why they can charge us accural interest without our consent?
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What about new loans?

If I buy a property today and apply for a new loan, will I still get the deferment?
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Lol u guys really think no accrual interest on your mortgage during this 6 months?
No accrual interest what bank eat?
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QUOTE(bara bara api @ Mar 25 2020, 06:41 AM)
Must have a catch one. That's why this thread is 13 pages long.

I haven't read the statement by BNM but will do later and will call them first thing tomorrow.

Things I care about this is:
1. does it accrue interest for 6 months starting 1st April if automatic moratorium
2. does it affect my CCRIS
3. do I need to apply or something (asking for an individual who is a NEET)
4. what's the catch?

Although some of you already mention it doesn't accrue interest, some say got. This shit gets complicated. There must be a catch somewhere.

t. not a financial/accounting major so no kecam please
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Why would it affect CCRIS? CCRIS if you default on loans. This is for assistance.

If it affects CCRIS, then BNM is not doing anything to help at all.
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Anjir 13 page edi.

So now need applied or just automatic no need pay?

Come on.
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Anjir 13 page edi.

So now need applied or just automatic no need pay?

Come on.
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From the article

"However, a footnote at the letter pointed out that there will still be an accrual of interest."

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...ns-exce/1849820
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So... can any /k confirm, for house loan, we can just stop paying the loan for 6 months? I know loan duration will be extended


this is automatic right? No need inform bank

Need some banking staff here to help

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erm. i hv a new loan for a property under construction.
Means interest free for 6 months ka?

Its a flexi loan, so during these period, making advance repayments got no benefits?
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ok read few times the bnm notice

1. ccris wont be affect
2. no interests accrued
3. if ur remaining tenure is 12 months, it will be 12 + 6 months
4. can opt out by writing in
5. credit card got separate program

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Need more details from banks and how are they going to inform customers and SMEs? If banks send letters to office, who the hell is going to read it?


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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Mar 25 2020, 07:25 AM)
ok read few times the bnm notice

1. ccris wont be affect
2. no interests accrued
3. if ur remaining tenure is 12 months, it will be 12 + 6 months
4. can opt out by writing in
5. credit card got separate program

happy to be corrected
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Can opt out, means by default I can just stop paying ya?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 25 2020, 06:47 AM)
bnm say is automatically applies to all individual and SME borrowers. SO if it is automatic, why they can charge us accural interest without our consent?
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QUOTE(Nauts @ Mar 25 2020, 07:20 AM)
Why would it affect CCRIS? CCRIS if you default on loans. This is for assistance.

If it affects CCRIS, then BNM is not doing anything to help at all.
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Ok so now it is logically no accrual interest and CCRIS is out of the equation.

For a layman like me, I better be ready to pay (opt out) for the second month if first month doesn't look good. Have to wait for the story to develop first I guess, it's not even 1st April yet.
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If this really automatic, imagine the day that you can fork out extra 500 from EPF and no need to pay mortgage/car loan/ptptn

Suddenly become rich fag, raya summore, everyone drink starbucks like water. Even for that 6 month.
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 07:29 AM)
If this really automatic, imagine the day that you can fork out extra 500 from EPF and no need to pay mortgage/car loan/ptptn

Suddenly become rich fag, raya summore, everyone drink starbucks like water. Even for that 6 month.
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Thats the whole idea

Making the munnie flow freely elsewhere instead of the banks lol
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 07:29 AM)
If this really automatic, imagine the day that you can fork out extra 500 from EPF and no need to pay mortgage/car loan/ptptn

Suddenly become rich fag, raya summore, everyone drink starbucks like water. Even for that 6 month.
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The idea is to flood market kau kau with liquidity

Imagine 6 months of raya / cny shopping spree
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Mar 25 2020, 07:26 AM)
Can opt out, means by default I can just stop paying ya?
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deferred payment, that's all...it doesn't mean u get to pay less or bank is getting less...interest rate is still ongoing for this 6 deferred payment months(people need to remember this)
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Listened to the 7am radio news. It says only applicable to those with conditions met. It's not full auto for everyone.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 25 2020, 07:52 AM)
Listened to the 7am radio news. It says only applicable to those with conditions met. It's not full auto for everyone.
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But there are only 2 conditions

1. not in arrears for 90days as of 1Apr
2. denominated in Ringgit

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 25 2020, 07:52 AM)
Listened to the 7am radio news. It says only applicable to those with conditions met. It's not full auto for everyone.
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Mar 25 2020, 07:25 AM)
ok read few times the bnm notice

1. ccris wont be affect
2. no interests accrued
3. if ur remaining tenure is 12 months, it will be 12 + 6 months
4. can opt out by writing in
5. credit card got separate program

happy to be corrected
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Interest would be accrued, and it depends on the bank whether to extend your tenure or increase your monthly repayment amount. Credit cards are excluded (because its essentially a risky unsecured loan).
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 25 2020, 07:40 AM)
deferred payment, that's all...it doesn't mean u get to pay less or bank is getting less...interest rate is still ongoing for this 6 deferred payment months(people need to remember this)
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Ha ha ha govt not giving you anything but allowing you to delay your debts merely prolonging your indebtness to the bank. If interest accrued then you are compounding that debt. Basically this government is saying screw your future use your future savings now because we got no money to give.
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Mar 25 2020, 07:54 AM)
But there are only 2 conditions

1. not in arrears for 90days as of 1Apr
2. denominated in Ringgit
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Better wait for pc from bnm
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 07:29 AM)
If this really automatic, imagine the day that you can fork out extra 500 from EPF and no need to pay mortgage/car loan/ptptn

Suddenly become rich fag, raya summore, everyone drink starbucks like water. Even for that 6 month.
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 07:29 AM)
If this really automatic, imagine the day that you can fork out extra 500 from EPF and no need to pay mortgage/car loan/ptptn

Suddenly become rich fag, raya summore, everyone drink starbucks like water. Even for that 6 month.
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and that person deserve to be in deep shit always

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 25 2020, 07:40 AM)
deferred payment, that's all...it doesn't mean u get to pay less or bank is getting less...interest rate is still ongoing for this 6 deferred payment months(people need to remember this)
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yala.. is like a grace period la i believe, grace period that u can delay ur april payment with no financial charges until september 2020, but of coz ur tenure end date will extend for 6 months also.

but the interest accural i not very understand. my understanding is, if there is additional interest incurred due to the delay of payment, this need to be consented by loanee, cannot be automatic.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 25 2020, 08:11 AM)
yala.. is like a grace period la i believe, grace period that u can delay ur april payment with no financial charges until september 2020, but of coz ur tenure end date will extend for 6 months also.

but the interest accural i not very understand. my understanding is, if there is additional interest incurred due to the delay of payment, this need to be consented by loanee, cannot be automatic.
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Higher repayment amount or longer repayment period due to additional interest incurred. So the loan amount and terms will be reviewed and adjusted by the bank before 1/10/2020. The bank always has the right to do so, no need to get consent from borrower.
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Mar 25 2020, 07:24 AM)
So... can any /k confirm, for house loan, we can just stop paying the loan for 6 months? I know loan duration will be extended
this is automatic right? No need inform bank

Need some banking staff here to help
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As per the announcement, depends on each bank. Pls ask ur bank how they want. To extend or increase repmt
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QUOTE(James1983 @ Mar 25 2020, 07:54 AM)
But there are only 2 conditions

1. not in arrears for 90days as of 1Apr
2. denominated in Ringgit
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Not those.
Perhaps need to submit documents to bank to show you have loss your job or no income.

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 01:04 AM)
Hence, the banks cannot charge you interest whilst your loan ia being suspended. It's pretty clear to me on this rule. And my example of how would you charge interest on predetermined or fixed loans such as hire purchase is one of the compelling reasons why the banks won't charge interest on any loan suspension. Including your house loan. They have got to be fair and apply all equal rules across the board.. so if they can't do it for one type of loan, means they should be consisrent and not apply additional interest across the board..

At least that's my logic to this.
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Can la. Your monthly installment is based on the duration of your loan, the longer the more expensive. The bank only delays your installment but they won't give you extra time on your loan for free.

The extra duration the banks can charge interest. How much is the interest you find out yourself. Just that under this moratorium, the bank cannot repossess your car and confiscate your house only even 6 months of not paying the installment.

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QUOTE(naTTan @ Mar 25 2020, 12:34 AM)
Fuck this is confusing, i though the simpler explanation is you delay 6 month pay. That means if your loan is meant to end in January 2030 it should now end July 2030.

Isnt this right?
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True if higher repayment amount (due to interest on outstanding balance accumulated in the next 6 months).

Or extend beyond July 2030, maybe additional 1-3 months.

Subject to fluctuation of interest rate from time to time.
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 07:29 AM)
If this really automatic, imagine the day that you can fork out extra 500 from EPF and no need to pay mortgage/car loan/ptptn

Suddenly become rich fag, raya summore, everyone drink starbucks like water. Even for that 6 month.
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That's what moomoonomics intend to spur.
More domestic spending and reduce the panic that people d all keep money don't want to use
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auto-debit or 2 months interest laugh.gif ?
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Seems like lock 6 month nonpayment and no interest but loan extended 6 mnths.
I not sure how the system calculate but is a big mess.
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Bank negara and respective banks will come out with details. I think they are caught offguard by the leak of the letter.
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Another source.
At the end still should wait the TnC from respective banks and BNM

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bnm-...pt-credit-cards
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lets wait msg from banks
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My understanding

Just imagine the timeline on a single line.

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April (Off) Sept
Sept onwards =>>>>>

Its just a delay. Switch the timeline to defer the current existing schedule.
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how about loan not by bank, like credit company?
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Good for those with loans but definitely not good for financial institutions. How many can than this type of stress test? I worry about the knock-on effect on the economy in general. Will they be able to continue issuing new loans?

If implemented, those still able to service their loans should be encouraged to do so by the financial institutions and bnm, perhaps with some sweeteners.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 25 2020, 09:04 AM)
Good for those with loans but definitely not good for financial institutions. How many can than this type of stress test? I worry about the knock-on effect on the economy in general. Will they be able to continue issuing new loans?

If implemented, those still able to service their loans should be encouraged to do so by the financial institutions and bnm, perhaps with some sweeteners.
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NPL has impact than this moratorium
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Mar 25 2020, 09:08 AM)
NPL has impact than this moratorium
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With this, there will be more npl for the nx 6 months lo.
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Subject to approval noobs
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Automatic but subject to approval....
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So bank stock will gg for their coming gg? as the loan principal and interest is granted delay ?
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https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=5018&lang=en

BNM official statement here. Seems like there are terms and conditions
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 25 2020, 09:04 AM)
Good for those with loans but definitely not good for financial institutions. How many can than this type of stress test? I worry about the knock-on effect on the economy in general. Will they be able to continue issuing new loans?

If implemented, those still able to service their loans should be encouraged to do so by the financial institutions and bnm, perhaps with some sweeteners.
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Another layman on the street who have no idea how banking institution works.

Hello, go read up on capital conservation buffers. I already mentioned earlier. Banks have built up alot of capital reserves since global financial crisis. Now it is time to use this reserve.
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Mar 25 2020, 09:20 AM)
https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=5018&lang=en

BNM official statement here. Seems like there are terms and conditions
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nice I will update first page
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Another layman on the street who have no idea how banking institution works.

Hello, go read up on capital conservation buffers. I already mentioned earlier. Banks have built up alot of capital reserves since global financial crisis. Now it is time to use this reserve.
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I'm no economist or financial expert like you. Nevertheless I hope you're right.
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no further actions required... move on.

#Individuals and SMEs that do not wish or need to avail of these flexibilities can continue with their current repayment structures.
#It's not auto you have to reach out to your bank if you have a need to defer your repayment.
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Do we need to do anything to entitle to this? Or it's automatic?

How do we prove that we are directly affected by Covid-19?
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Do we need to do anything to entitle to this? Or it's automatic?

How do we prove that we are directly affected by Covid-19?
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bnm say call your bank to talk to them
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Mar 25 2020, 07:56 AM)
Ha ha ha govt not giving you anything but allowing you to delay your debts merely prolonging your indebtness to the bank. If interest accrued then you are compounding that debt. Basically this government is saying screw your future use your future savings now because we got no money to give.
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it has it's goods and bads
for those who became jobless/lost of income due to this, this would help....ALOT


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My understanding

Just imagine the timeline on a single line.

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April    (Off)          Sept
                              Sept        onwards =>>>>>

Its just a delay. Switch the timeline to defer the current existing schedule.
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this
the most easiest explanation to those who don't understand is that
your installment of 1st april 2020 will be delayed to 1st oct 2020
it's that simple
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Your FD interest, saving a/c interest etc actually comes from the loan interest, bank is just the middleman taking their cut of profit. if there is no accrued interest for existing loans for 6 months, expect profit goes down or bank will be giving less deposit interest once your FD matures.

for every winner, there are always losers. there is no free lunch for everybody in this world. if you get a free lunch, means someone else will lose money.

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From tv3 news it's said that it isn't automatic

Banks offer penangguhan so if you want you have to call them
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i think some are confused with the current as well previous policy abeit BNM direction on 6mth delayed as well banks' deferment for affected customers......


current one covered everybody, while the previous one only for affected cnsumers
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QUOTE(happyking4ever @ Mar 25 2020, 09:37 AM)
Your FD interest, saving a/c interest etc actually comes from the loan interest, bank is just the middleman taking their cut of profit. if there is no accrued interest for existing loans for 6 months, expect profit goes down or bank will be giving less deposit interest once your FD matures.

for every winner, there are always losers. there is no free lunch for everybody in this world. if you get a free lunch, means someone else will lose money.
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You must be a layman like me. Someone said banks have built up reserves for this.
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How convenient, the word automatic from yesterday has now disappeared. Banker help banker.
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QUOTE(seanlam @ Mar 25 2020, 09:39 AM)
i think some are confused with the current as well previous policy abeit BNM direction on 6mth delayed as well banks' deferment for affected customers......
current one covered everybody, while the previous one only for affected cnsumers
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Exactly. This new one applies to all
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 25 2020, 09:39 AM)
You must be a layman like me. Someone said banks have built up reserves for this.
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reserve belongs to shareholders, so someone still lose money. could be very well the person who said that earlier.

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Hope the reserve sufficient
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Mar 25 2020, 09:20 AM)
https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=5018&lang=en

BNM official statement here. Seems like there are terms and conditions
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from the press release
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Individuals and SMEs that do not wish or need to avail of these flexibilities can continue with their current repayment structures.


i want to continue, do i have to call or not?? it just says can continue like usual
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QUOTE(DukeHyou @ Mar 25 2020, 09:53 AM)
from the press release
i want to continue, do i have to call or not?? it just says can continue like usual
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car loan no need pay ?
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QUOTE(DukeHyou @ Mar 25 2020, 09:53 AM)
from the press release
i want to continue, do i have to call or not?? it just says can continue like usual
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Best to contact your banker, I sent an email to him this morning and he said got meeting in HQ this morning. Will update me on results
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Best to contact your banker, I sent an email to him this morning and he said got meeting in HQ this morning. Will update me on results
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so do we have a final say on this yet?

is it defer both principle and interest or just principle?
is it auto for everyone or do we need to apply for the deferment with evidence of being affected by COVID-19?
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This is so unclear.
I guess it is not applicable to everyone.
Only selected few.

I guess people still have to apply and submit documents about how they got affected and not able to pay a loan.


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have to apply with high chances rejected or automatic?
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1. Automatic here means what?
2. Only apply to covid19 related cases?

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interest will still apply on the postponed payment. i hope it is not late payment interest
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before everyone rush please note it is "no installment payment required, not no interest charged". Take it if you have to, but not to "enjoy". The interest that was supposed to be paid will snowball. 6 months of snowballing principal + interest is not pretty.

The only think I am unclear is car loan / hire purchase as those don't normally have daily rest interest.
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Got interest? If got interest, after 6 months...Kantoi!
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interest will still apply on the postponed payment. i hope it is not late payment interest
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normally payment moratorium = no late payment charge


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How about rental? I rent a shop, the landlord can get moratorium but not me? How is it fair?
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QUOTE(tyrionlannister10 @ Mar 25 2020, 10:40 AM)
How about rental? I rent a shop, the landlord can get moratorium but not me? How is it fair?
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seem its automatically applied to everyone, this is from the FAQ

Do I need to apply?

No. All individual and SME loans/financing (excluding credit cards) that meet the criteria will automatically qualify for the deferment.

source BNM : https://t.co/m57LsxkYMq?amp=1
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some said the payment will be resumed on sept, which means nothing to pay for this 6 month. it is auto which means everyone that is good paymaster will get this benefit, unless u call the bank to reject this offer and continue paying like normal.

some also said the interest is compounded which means in sept there will be higher price to pay right? or else?

some also said this benefit only for certain consumers i.e those who took unpaid leave.

anyone from banking industry can clarify? haywire right now lol
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Mar 25 2020, 10:14 AM)
so do we have a final say on this yet?

is it defer both principle and interest or just principle?
is it auto for everyone or do we need to apply for the deferment with evidence of being affected by COVID-19?
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so unclear isnt it?

lagi confusing
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QUOTE(JAL811 @ Mar 25 2020, 09:40 AM)
How convenient, the word automatic from yesterday has now disappeared. Banker help banker.
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QUOTE(David_Villa @ Mar 25 2020, 10:45 AM)
seem its automatically applied to everyone, this is from the FAQ

Do I need to apply?

No. All individual and SME loans/financing (excluding credit cards) that meet the criteria will automatically qualify for the deferment.



source BNM : https://t.co/m57LsxkYMq?amp=1
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source BNM : https://t.co/m57LsxkYMq?amp=1

It is a temporary deferment or suspension of loan/financing
repayment obligation (principal and interest) for a limited period
of time. During this period, borrowers/customers with
loan/financing that meet the conditions do not need to make any
repayment, and no late payment charges or penalties will be
imposed.

Interest/profit will continue to accrue on loan/financing
repayments that are deferred and borrowers/customers will need
to honour the deferred repayments in the future.
Loan/financing
repayment resumes after the deferment period.

Which loan/financing qualifies
for the deferment?

For individuals and small and medium enterprises (SMEs), the
deferment in conventional loans or Islamic financing repayment
obligations (except credit cards) are automatically effected by
banks and development financial institutions (DFIs) if the
loans/financing meet these criteria:
• not in arrears exceeding 90 days as at 1 April 2020; and
• denominated in Malaysian Ringgit.

Do I need to apply?
No. All individual and SME loans/financing (excluding credit
cards) that meet the criteria will automatically qualify for the
deferment.



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updated with link to faq. I think most of the answers are in there.


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6 mths moratorium is just a pause in installment payments. The interest daily rest calcs still jalan as is.

For car loans, the end date just shifts back 6 mths


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How if I want to cont pay?
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6 mths moratorium is just a pause in installment payments. The interest daily rest calcs still jalan as is.

For car loans, the end date just shifts back 6 mths
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 25 2020, 11:00 AM)
6 mths moratorium is just a pause in installment payments. The interest daily rest calcs still jalan as is.

For car loans, the end date just shifts back 6 mths
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Seems to me car loan is better? Since car loan no accrued interest.
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QUOTE(victorian @ Mar 25 2020, 11:11 AM)
Seems to me car loan is better? Since car loan no accrued interest.
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yep, this is what I believe most people are thinking.

they should've come up with scenarios to explain the calculations. makes life so much easier

now they're being swarmed with questions mega_shok.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 25 2020, 11:00 AM)
6 mths moratorium is just a pause in installment payments. The interest daily rest calcs still jalan as is.

For car loans, the end date just shifts back 6 mths
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QUOTE(victorian @ Mar 25 2020, 11:11 AM)
Seems to me car loan is better? Since car loan no accrued interest.
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QUOTE(Death Wings @ Mar 25 2020, 11:14 AM)
yep, this is what I believe most people are thinking.

they should've come up with scenarios to explain the calculations. makes life so much easier

now they're being swarmed with questions mega_shok.gif  sweat.gif
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Yeah, this is what I want to know. For layman people, what is the effect to the car loan.
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yep, this is what I believe most people are thinking.

they should've come up with scenarios to explain the calculations. makes life so much easier

now they're being swarmed with questions mega_shok.gif  sweat.gif
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BNM only come out with instruction and guideline..

How it will work will come from the individual bank. Just chill first still have 7 more days til 1st April (but bank will definitely fine tune it in 1-2) days

Different bank will package it differently.

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Yeah, this is what I want to know. For layman people, what is the effect to the car loan.
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Car loan means your loan just extended 6 more months..

No ccris impact
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my loan payment is scheduled/auto deduct from my saving account every month. how to opt out of this deferment? is there a specific contact email address or website from banks for this? do i have to personally go to bank to opt out? with the roadblock, i can't even reach the bank.

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my loan payment is scheduled/auto deduct from my saving account every month. how to opt out of this deferment? is there a specific contact email address or website from banks for this? do i have to personally go to bank to opt out? with the roadblock, i can't even reach the bank.
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Transfer the money to another account that is not used for auto debit
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Can we still pay car loan? If we pay, is it counted? My car due to finish pay in October
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my loan payment is scheduled/auto deduct from my saving account every month. how to opt out of this deferment? is there a specific contact email address or website from banks for this? do i have to personally go to bank to opt out? with the roadblock, i can't even reach the bank.
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Just call the normal customer service hotline.. But wait for at least 1 more day as like i said instruction just came out last night..

The individual bank will need to come out with their own SOP...


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Do I need to apply?
No. All individual and SME loans/financing (excluding credit
cards) that meet the criteria will automatically qualify for the
deferment



still got criteria checking. so not everyone gets it “automatically”
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Do I need to apply?
No. All individual and SME loans/financing (excluding credit
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deferment
still got criteria checking. so not everyone gets it “automatically”
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Yeah i think the criteria is that you have no outstanding more than 3 month..


Aiya just wait for more news to come from your individual bank.

BNM only set the instruction.. There are many banks in Malaysia.. All cannot be using 1 same fine print or t&c

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 25 2020, 11:31 AM)
my loan payment is scheduled/auto deduct from my saving account every month. how to opt out of this deferment? is there a specific contact email address or website from banks for this? do i have to personally go to bank to opt out? with the roadblock, i can't even reach the bank.
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my friends on RHB said there are several ways that people service thier loans.

1. Manual payment
2. Salary deduction thru employer
3. Standing Instruction (SI)
4. Auto deduct Savinf Account

The banks must cater this on first if want to whollly implement 6monts grace period..

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what if i choose to continue pay? can?
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Where got free lunch?

I am more interested to know if I can continue to service my loans.
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No need apply, automatic if met criteria (no arrears > 90 days and not cc)
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 01:04 AM)
Sigh.. A rebate is a rebate.

That is totally different from saying that the hire purchase interest will increase or reduce due to the suspension of loan payments..

You cant suddenly accrue more intetest on your car loan. It's not possible when your payment schedule and interest is fixed from start to finish.. now, at the end of the tenure, the bank may give you a discount for early settlement or a penalty for being late. But again, that is totally different from scenario like this where you are lawfully allowed to suspend your loan for 6 months.  Your payment schedule and interest is still fixed.. the only thing that has changed is the end date. That's all..

And your example of accrued interest still doesnt work for car or even personal loans where the interest isn't based on days but rather on your payment schedule. I.e. 60 monthly payments of X amount until the end of Y date.. the interest has already been precalculated and built in..

Hence, the banks cannot charge you interest whilst your loan ia being suspended. It's pretty clear to me on this rule. And my example of how would you charge interest on predetermined or fixed loans such as hire purchase is one of the compelling reasons why the banks won't charge interest on any loan suspension. Including your house loan. They have got to be fair and apply all equal rules across the board.. so if they can't do it for one type of loan, means they should be consisrent and not apply additional interest across the board..

At least that's my logic to this.
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Your logic doesn't apply. i don't want to say it, but it turns out that I am right and you are wrong. Now please respect each other, we are just discussing. I am not asking for your apology, but stoip being such a tightass about this whole thing.

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Hi does this include progressive payment as well?
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My choices are:

Car loan - no need pay.
House loan - continue pay.
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I think alot of bank will use sms you and say.

That so and so loan has been granted auto deferment. To opt out please type ### and reply to 66330..

Just wait for it.. Dont be so dramatic roadblock cannot go bank and all..

Or Just call your bank customer service if you want opt out

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 25 2020, 11:58 AM)
what if i choose to continue pay? can?
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Mar 25 2020, 11:59 AM)
Where got free lunch?

I am more interested to know if I can continue to service my loans.
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As such, banking institutions must ensure that borrowers are sufficiently educated on the options available to them to resume their scheduled repayments once the deferment period ends. This includes coming up with suitable repayment plans that take into account the principal amount and interest accrued during the moratorium period, as well as the repayment capacity of borrowers. Those that do not wish or need to avail of these flexibilities can choose to continue with their current repayment structures.

source from paultan

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perghhh 6 bulan no need pay. can save so much plus raise additional emergency fund
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QUOTE(UsopSontorian @ Mar 25 2020, 12:09 PM)
Hi does this include progressive payment as well?
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wait, so meaning additional interest on the interest itself?
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Yes... quick summary is whatever interest component one is supposed to pay for say April month, if one took up this moratorium offer, the interest will accrue into the principal. Come May, one will notice that the principal has increased. So now the May interest component will increase as the outstanding principal has increased.

quick explanation only.
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perghhh 6 bulan no need pay. can save so much plus raise additional emergency fund
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Use the oppurtunity to clear short term debt

PS/CC anything..so once this one done. You will have extra cash flow in hand..
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 25 2020, 12:07 PM)
Your logic doesn't apply. i don't want to say it, but it turns out that I am right and you are wrong. Now please respect each other, we are just discussing. I am not asking for your apology, but stoip being such a tightass about this whole thing.

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Agree. Interest still ongoing. That make perfect sense for everyone
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Mar 25 2020, 11:59 AM)
Where got free lunch?

I am more interested to know if I can continue to service my loans.
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I dont think anything wrong if you continue paying as usual
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I think they opt to do this for all because current BLR also low, once the period over and economy gooding, they revise the BLR. That time, your loan got extended already so, will need to use new BLR.
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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 12:33 PM)
I think they opt to do this for all because current BLR also low, once the period over and economy gooding, they revise the BLR. That time, your loan got extended already so, will need to use new BLR.
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No need to worry about 6 months interest. Just make sure the survival
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so i should contact the bank if i wanna continue with my loan repayment?
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along still hv to pay onot?
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Yes but give it a few days before you call..

Let them come up with the details first

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Arrears tu maksudnya apa?
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Mar 25 2020, 12:55 PM)
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Lambat bayar.. if the last time you paid the loan was december 2019, by now you should have "3 months in arrears"
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Car loan- no pay
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Keeping cash at hand for safety and back up
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Need k expert here, I'm paying for my house that is still in development

Iinm I'm just paying off interest right? and not principal because it's "progressive"

So in that case it's better for me to take up this moratorium right?
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Will I be charged additional interest on the repayment amount that is deferred by 6 months during the period?

For conventional loans, interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.

For Islamic financing, profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.

Banks are however not allowed to impose late penalty charges on the deferred amount. In other words, the loan/financing repayment is just deferred by 6 months.

More at https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688
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Your logic doesn't apply. i don't want to say it, but it turns out that I am right and you are wrong. Now please respect each other, we are just discussing. I am not asking for your apology, but stoip being such a tightass about this whole thing.

Source: https://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2020/FAQs_...%20Measures.pdf

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Of course interest will continue to acrue.. the question is, whether that is ADDITIONAL interest ontop of the interest being accrued as usual.. for somebody like you, who teaches English.. im appalled at the level of your comprehensive skills..

Maybe you should call your bank up. Because that is what I did and was informed that there will not be any additional interest charged for this 6 months..

In anyways, im waiting for the bank letter before I make my move.
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interests still accrue... continue paying if you can afford to
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 01:39 PM)
Of course interest will continue to acrue.. the question is, whether that is ADDITIONAL interest ontop of the interest being accrued as usual.. for somebody like you, who teaches English.. im appalled at the level of your comprehensive skills..

Maybe you should call your bank up. Because that is what I did and was informed that there will not be any additional interest charged for this 6 months..

In anyways, im waiting for the bank letter before I make my move.
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Will I be charged additional interest on the repayment amount that is deferred by 6 months during the period?


For conventional loans, interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.

For Islamic financing, profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.

Banks are however not allowed to impose late penalty charges on the deferred amount. In other words, the loan/financing repayment is just deferred by 6 months.



What would happen to my loan/financing repayments after the deferment package period? How does being in the deferment package affect my interest payments after the 6-month period? Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?


Interest/profit will continue to accrue on loan/financing repayments that are deferred. This means accumulated repayment amount during the deferment of repayment period will be added to the outstanding loan/financing amount.



More at https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688





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Will I be charged additional interest on the repayment amount that is deferred by 6 months during the period?


For conventional loans, interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.

For Islamic financing, profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.

Banks are however not allowed to impose late penalty charges on the deferred amount. In other words, the loan/financing repayment is just deferred by 6 months.
What would happen to my loan/financing repayments after the deferment package period? How does being in the deferment package affect my interest payments after the 6-month period? Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?


Interest/profit will continue to accrue on loan/financing repayments that are deferred. This means accumulated repayment amount during the deferment of repayment period will be added to the outstanding loan/financing amount.
More at https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688
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So nowhere in there did it say Additional interest will be charged.. accrued interest is VERY different from ADDITIONAL interest..

For house outstanding balance yes, you will get hit because you are not reducing the amount. Which is fair.

But for all other loans, it doesnt matter if you pay in the next 6 months or not because they are fixed interest calculated from the start of the loan and doesn't consider the outstanding amount.. for all other loans, it is wise decision to delay repayment.

Heck.. can even say it is wise decision to delay housing loan repayments based on the fact that house loans have the lowest interest out of any type of secured loan.. you can use your cash to invest and out earn that interest.

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QUOTE(David_Villa @ Mar 25 2020, 10:45 AM)
seem its automatically applied to everyone, this is from the FAQ

Do I need to apply?

No. All individual and SME loans/financing (excluding credit cards) that meet the criteria will automatically qualify for the deferment.

source BNM : https://t.co/m57LsxkYMq?amp=1
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I'm a bit confuse on this too
Check this from pbe, https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2922#q2922
U need to apply though
Old announcement

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QUOTE(exhauster @ Mar 25 2020, 02:00 PM)
I'm a bit confuse on this too
Check this from pbe, https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2922#q2922
U need to apply though
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But i saw the statement is issued on 23rd of March, i believe is not the latest one.

the best is call to bank and ask.

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 01:59 PM)
So nowhere in there did it say Additional interest will be charged.. accrued interest is VERY different from ADDITIONAL interest..

For house outstanding balance yes, you will get hit because you are not reducing the amount. Which is fair.

But for all other loans, it doesnt matter if you pay in the next 6 months or not because they are fixed interest calculated from the start of the loan and doesn't consider the outstanding amount.. for all other loans, it is wise decision to delay repayment.

Heck.. can even say it is wise decision to delay housing loan repayments based on the fact that house loans have the lowest interest out of any type of secured loan.. you can use your cash to invest and out earn that interest.
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Interest/profit are both calculated based on the principal amount.

For conventional, the calculated interest will be added back to principal amount. Your next calculated interest will be based on the "enlarged" principal amount.

For Islamic, the calculated profit is not added back to the principal amount. Your next calculated profit will be based on the same principal amount. The total of profit amount is tracked separately.

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how about auto debit? man its difficult without proper information. BNM should be more proactive
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how about auto debit? man its difficult without proper information. BNM should be more proactive
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I have a loan/financing which is automatically deducted from my salary. Do I qualify for the deferment?

Yes. Please inform your company to stop the salary deduction if you wish to have your loan/financing repayments deferred. You should also contact your bank to inform them accordingly.

How should I notify the bank that I wish to opt-out of the deferment offer?

Please respond to the notification sent by the bank and informed that you wish to opt-out of the automatic deferment package, or continue to make timely and full repayment of your loan/financing.


More at https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688

Based on that, I think you need to manually intervene your autopayment.
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how about auto debit? man its difficult without proper information. BNM should be more proactive
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You want BNM to come out with each and every detail for every bank and financial institution in malaysia

Maybank, cimb, affin, public bank, rhb,ambank, mbsb, bank rakyat, bsn, kuwait finance house etc??????????????!?

BNM does not handle your auto debit la....

Just contact your bank la aihhh

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how about auto debit? man its difficult without proper information. BNM should be more proactive
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Maybe you should be more proactive and call your bank instead.
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Mar 25 2020, 02:13 PM)
I have a loan/financing which is automatically deducted from my salary. Do I qualify for the deferment?

Yes. Please inform your company to stop the salary deduction if you wish to have your loan/financing repayments deferred. You should also contact your bank to inform them accordingly.

How should I notify the bank that I wish to opt-out of the deferment offer?

Please respond to the notification sent by the bank and informed that you wish to opt-out of the automatic deferment package, or continue to make timely and full repayment of your loan/financing.
More at https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688

Based on that, I think you need to manually intervene your autopayment.
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Thats for deduction from salary, mine is deducted from another account, i dont want the deferment. Been calling the bank since yesterday but only automated machine


QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ Mar 25 2020, 02:41 PM)
You want BNM to come out with each and every detail for every bank and financial institution in malaysia

Maybank, cimb, affin, public bank, rhb,ambank, mbsb, bank rakyat, bsn, kuwait finance house etc??????????????!?

BNM does not handle your auto debit la....

Just contact your bank la aihhh
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Did i say that? I would not be asking here if the Bank CS picks up the call, been trying since yesterday.
Please go troll far2 away. DO you really think people are that dumb?

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 25 2020, 02:47 PM)
Maybe you should be more proactive and call your bank instead.
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been calling since yesterday, but only automated machine.
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But accrued interest still going on.
What for?
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But accrued interest still going on.
What for?
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That's y it doesn't applicable to most ppl
but if those ppl who have 5k cash left in bank and monthly installment is 2.5k, they can only survive 2 months without salary if their industry is severely impacted.

But ppl like u who are cash rich then don't even need to read news also no problem.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Mar 25 2020, 02:55 PM)
But accrued interest still going on.
What for?
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That's y it doesn't applicable to most ppl
but if those ppl who have 5k cash left in bank and monthly installment is 2.5k, they can only survive 2 months without salary if their industry is severely impacted.

But ppl like u who are cash rich then don't even need to read news also no problem.
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Do I need to go apply to

Continue pay loan

I want bank continue auto deduct.. As per normal

Knn...

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bank operator say if dont want moratorium just continue to pay as usual hmm.gif

anyone else can confirm this?
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It's not exactly no need to pay loans for 6 months.

It's just loan repayments being postponed for 6 months.

If you're financing for 5 years, you still have to pay for 5 years, only paused now and continue after the relief period.
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wat they mean is like that la... simply layman term:

the loan repayment is deferred. They say interest will still be accured, this mean because it doesnt mean u don have to pay for 6 months, is just a deferment. Not like bank free for u 6 months. so the 6months still need to pay later, meaning to say ur tenure will be extended.
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QUOTE(be7a @ Mar 25 2020, 03:36 PM)
bank operator say if dont want moratorium just continue to pay as usual hmm.gif

anyone else can confirm this?
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which bank bro?
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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Mar 25 2020, 03:39 PM)
It's not exactly no need to pay loans for 6 months.

It's just loan repayments being postponed for 6 months.

If you're financing for 5 years, you still have to pay for 5 years, only paused now and continue after the relief period.
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If like this I understand, but they say got accrual interest. So what is that about?
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If like this I understand, but they say got accrual interest. So what is that about?
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You still get 6 months of interest accrued into your total payment. Seems like a way to incentivize banks for particpating in this relief.
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Car hire purchase interest stop for 6 months I syiok dy.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Mar 25 2020, 02:55 PM)
But accrued interest still going on.
What for?
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yahoo, now can take the 6bulan of 2 car loan repayments to buy galazyfold.
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Interest still ADD ON to PRINCIPAL. Even WORST!
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 25 2020, 03:41 PM)
wat they mean is like that la... simply layman term:

the loan repayment is deferred. They say interest will still be accured, this mean because it doesnt mean u don have to pay for 6 months, is just a deferment. Not like bank free for u 6 months. so the 6months still need to pay later, meaning to say ur tenure will be extended.
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your layman is not layman.

you main bini orang. laki dia cari dan kasi pukul.
you main sembunyi2.
tiba-tiba, bnm kate momotoriam 6bulan. laki dia kasi freeze 6bulan.

lepas 6bulan, laki dia masih nak cari dan pukul you.
tapi, dalam 6bulan nie, tak pyah sembunyi2 dan boleh main bini orang lain sepuas hati seperti pas.

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and you must be a good paymaster
so, if ur ccris is poor paymaster, u r not eligible for moratorium
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how? need to tell the bank if I want to continue pay?

do you guys try to call? especially PBB?

I scare i call Kena diao by PBB

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Car hire purchase interest stop for 6 months I syiok dy.
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Why syiok? For hire purchase, interest is already calculated upfront and divided across tenure. We don't pay any less interest but got the benefit of additional cash flow for 6 months.
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Thanks !
Each bank have their own SOP to tell their customers right

Wonder which bank will be faster to announce
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Umm guys, so if I pay RM1000 monthly, then it is now paused for 6 months, do I need to pay more after the moratorium ended?

let's say, i pay RM1000 normally

then 6 months interest accrued on that loan alone

on month 7, my monthly payment will be readjust with the accrued interest + tenure will also be readjusted, right?

so it is now RM1010 something until my new tenure is completed? or is it the same amount, but only tenure is extended?

note: all figures are example, i don't math on this one.
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Mar 25 2020, 05:04 PM)
your layman is not layman.

you main bini orang. laki dia cari dan kasi pukul.
you main sembunyi2.
tiba-tiba, bnm kate momotoriam 6bulan. laki dia kasi freeze 6bulan.

lepas 6bulan, laki dia masih nak cari dan pukul you.
tapi, dalam 6bulan nie, tak pyah sembunyi2 dan boleh main bini orang lain sepuas hati seperti pas.
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QUOTE(bara bara api @ Mar 25 2020, 05:24 PM)
Umm guys, so if I pay RM1000 monthly, then it is now paused for 6 months, do I need to pay more after the moratorium ended?

let's say, i pay RM1000 normally

then 6 months interest accrued on that loan alone

on month 7, my monthly payment will be readjust with the accrued interest + tenure will also be readjusted, right?

so it is now RM1010 something until my new tenure is completed? or is it the same amount, but only tenure is extended?

note: all figures are example, i don't math on this one.
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I dont have the exact calculation as well.. But i think this sounds right

Or not you will survive 6 months but on month 7 you will have trouble paying as well (if accumulated)

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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ Mar 25 2020, 07:32 PM)
I dont have the exact calculation as well.. But its almost right..

I dont get what the fuss is about the 6 month interest.. Housing loan interest is the lowest interest, it wouldnt affect that much..

People are complaining as if they need to pay so much in month 7
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ya i don't think it's paying lump sum interest on the 7th month. could be it readjusted so it spreads across the rest of the tenure. idk
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So for housing loan it is worth or not?
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Guys. If my loan auto deduct from savings account how bro?
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Guys, need your advice also. Lol. It’s for my car loan, 2 years+ into it. Total 7 years loan. Monthly instalment of 741. So 6 months I’ll be saving up like 4.4k. It will no doubt help me in saving up liquid cash. The interest roll over should be just minimal only right, since it’s just car loan and 7 years. Maybe when resume it’s like 760+?

Hmm. Would u guys trade the 4.4k liquid cash to slightly higher interest when you start repaying back the loan on Sept?
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Mar 25 2020, 10:44 PM)
Guys, need your advice also. Lol. It’s for my car loan, 2 years+ into it. Total 7 years loan. Monthly instalment of 741. So 6 months I’ll be saving up like 4.4k. It will no doubt help me in saving up liquid cash. The interest roll over should be just minimal only right, since it’s just car loan and 7 years. Maybe when resume it’s like 760+?

Hmm. Would u guys trade the 4.4k liquid cash to slightly higher interest when you start repaying back the loan on Sept?
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Bnm say hire purchase wajib ambil. But Public bank say optional. Dgr siapa woi
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I think both is optional... If you want to pay can also.. Not mandatory for us to take but its mandatory for bank to give the moratorium
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Mar 25 2020, 10:44 PM)
Guys, need your advice also. Lol. It’s for my car loan, 2 years+ into it. Total 7 years loan. Monthly instalment of 741. So 6 months I’ll be saving up like 4.4k. It will no doubt help me in saving up liquid cash. The interest roll over should be just minimal only right, since it’s just car loan and 7 years. Maybe when resume it’s like 760+?

Hmm. Would u guys trade the 4.4k liquid cash to slightly higher interest when you start repaying back the loan on Sept?
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Take it no impact on your total amount owed

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Say your remaining house loan is RM 300,000, 4% interest... the 6 months u defer your payment accrued 2% interest (half a year).. you'll end up with Rm 6,000 interest to be added into your total amount owed.. which is RM 306,000 after 6 months.. then you negotiate with your bank for a new payment term.
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Say your remaining house loan is RM 300,000, 4% interest... the 6 months u defer your payment accrued 2% interest (half a year).. you'll end up with Rm 6,000 interest to be added into your total amount owed.. which is RM 306,000 after 6 months.. then you negotiate with your bank for a new payment term.
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I think this is quite accurate..

Lets wait for more faq from bank..

Those that having cash flow problem to survive due to MCO then it helps to put food on table and roof over your head.

But that 6000 extra lets say if spread over a long period and just increase your monthly installment by rm30-50 i might just take it.

The 6 month loan i saved can invest other places to get return 😉
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yahoo, now can take the 6bulan of 2 car loan repayments to buy galazyfold.
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If got tunggakam not valid tis morotoriam?
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government try to help u save cash u guys kaypoh dont want pulak

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After reading on public bank's website, it seems like we need to fill the form and submit it to them then they will revise for how long we can skip the payment.

It's not automatically done for this particular bank. I guess I'll just pay my monthly payment
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how? need to tell the bank if I want to continue pay?

do you guys try to call? especially PBB?

I scare i call Kena diao by PBB
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On pbb website it said that we have to fill a form and submit it to them if we want to stop payment. My guess would be that we just pay our monthly instalments if we don't need the moratorium
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parked, still want confirmation:

1. hire purchase got interest?
2. is it auto or need to fill form (maybank)?
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QUOTE(manypplwan @ Mar 26 2020, 01:20 AM)
On pbb website it said that we have to fill a form and submit it to them if we want to stop payment. My guess would be that we just pay our monthly instalments if we don't need the moratorium
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Take note of the date of the announcement, its 23rd, pm announcement was this afternoon, 25th, where it will applied automatically, and also my banker told me so as well biggrin.gif still waiting for her response regarding the interest portion, better ask them direcrly rather than depend on speculations
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Mar 26 2020, 12:43 AM)
typical financial illiterate poorfag
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ayam have galazyfold, you dont have.
dont jelez, when ayam get awek after this.

#wang tak dapat dibawa ke akhirat
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QUOTE(manypplwan @ Mar 26 2020, 01:16 AM)
After reading on public bank's website, it seems like we need to fill the form and submit it to them then they will revise for how long we can skip the payment.

It's not automatically done for this particular bank. I guess I'll just pay my monthly payment
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Are you referring to this?

https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2922#q2922

It's updated on 23-MAR-2020


The announcement by BNM is one day later 24-MAR-2020.

So it could be outdated on pbebank.
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QUOTE(OkuboNX @ Mar 26 2020, 01:27 AM)
Take note of the date of the announcement, its 23rd, pm announcement was this afternoon, 25th, where it will applied automatically, and also my banker told me so as well biggrin.gif still waiting for her response regarding the interest portion, better ask them direcrly rather than depend on speculations
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Are you referring to this?

https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2922#q2922

It's updated on 23-MAR-2020
The announcement by BNM is one day later 24-MAR-2020.

So it could be outdated on pbebank.
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government try to help u save cash u guys kaypoh dont want pulak

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Bad new is most bank required you to fill up form and not automatic.....

First is public bank for hire purchase. Need state reason amd storytellling how you affected

Now need wait upcoming announcement see bank will follow automatically or not. Haha

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QUOTE(wangpr @ Mar 26 2020, 04:47 AM)
Bad new is most  bank required you to fill up form and not automatic.....

First is public bank for hire purchase. Need state reason amd storytellling how you affected

Now need wait upcoming announcement see bank will follow automatically or not. Haha
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This is an ORDER from BNM, they literally have no choice.
The whole filling up form thing is from the previous offer that were made by Malaysian banks independently, this one is different.


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Refer to this attachment, very clear already.

Hire purchase, no need worry about interest and accrued interest. So just opt in don't reject. You pay same instalment 6 month later and loan extended 6 month

Mortgage, interest will be calculated on daily basis, Yes, with interest on interest. The amount will not be small.. So this one if your monthly repayment only paying less than 40% of the principal, better opt out if you can. Can rack up minimum 6k of interest in 6 month assuming the mortgage balance is above 250k.

After 6 month, there are 2 possibility, either bank allowed you to pay same instalment and extend the repayment period beyond 6 month, and the repayment backtrack to 6 months ago before the moratorium where the payment will allocated more to paid off interest than principle or bank increase the monthly instalment amount to cover for the 6 month accrued interest and repayment structure still backtrack to 6 month ago before moratorium where % paid to interest portion is higher than to principles balance.

Based on Summary on loan info, it look like the latter, instalment amount increases to cover new Balance.


Either way is not good.

BTW, above attachment sources is not from bnm but from uni suite, and the official letter from bnm clearly stated the acrued interest will be calculated and total balance will be adjusted and it look like for all loan not only limited to mortgage. So will need to verify the above source where they get the summary and most importantly which official bnm communication says no interest for hire-purchase as I can't find any online.
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progressive interest still need to pay, rip.
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Got bnm source that said hire purchase no additional interest?
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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ Mar 25 2020, 11:45 PM)
I think this is quite accurate..

Lets wait for more faq from bank..

Those that having cash flow problem to survive due to MCO then it helps to put food on table and roof over your head.

But that 6000 extra lets say if spread over a long period and just increase your monthly installment by rm30-50 i might just take it.

The 6 month loan i saved can invest other places to get return 😉
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see this, maybank

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ief_scheme.page?

regarding deferment on loan
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for public bank: https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

but i dont see any form here when they said we can apply there
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QUOTE(seanlam @ Mar 26 2020, 09:48 AM)
see this, maybank

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ief_scheme.page?

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conventional loan interest is compounded. shariah one not compounded....
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QUOTE(wangpr @ Mar 26 2020, 04:47 AM)
Bad new is most  bank required you to fill up form and not automatic.....

First is public bank for hire purchase. Need state reason amd storytellling how you affected

Now need wait upcoming announcement see bank will follow automatically or not. Haha
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Just checked with cimb and maybank, all automated.

They will give you a form to opt-out if you want that
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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Mar 26 2020, 09:51 AM)
for public bank: https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

but i dont see any form here when they said we can apply there
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bos, for the latest announcement (by BNM), itd automatik... no form is required. all eligible client is enrolled....
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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Mar 26 2020, 09:51 AM)
for public bank: https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

but i dont see any form here when they said we can apply there
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I want to opt out but the "here" is not clickable. cry.gif
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I have a question, doesn't islamic loan work in a different mechanism? Are the effects similar or no effects at all on islamic loan?
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QUOTE(seanlam @ Mar 26 2020, 10:02 AM)
bos, for the latest announcement (by BNM), itd automatik... no form is required. all eligible client is enrolled....
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i don't want the deferment.

those who wanna opt out need to apply
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I want to opt out but the "here" is not clickable. cry.gif
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Don't upset if banks don't want to pay employees for up to 6 months lol
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QUOTE(Rudd @ Mar 26 2020, 05:57 AM)
progressive interest still need to pay, rip.
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QUOTE(wangpr @ Mar 26 2020, 04:47 AM)
Bad new is most  bank required you to fill up form and not automatic.....

First is public bank for hire purchase. Need state reason amd storytellling how you affected

Now need wait upcoming announcement see bank will follow automatically or not. Haha
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the one you read for hire purchase is before BNM announcement, dated is 23rd March... the latest one on 26th march will be automatic
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Can i have the sauce for the hire purchase? I Can't seem to find any announcement about hire purchase or maybe its just my england bad. tongue.gif
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Can i have the sauce for the hire purchase? I Can't seem to find any announcement about hire purchase or maybe its just my england bad. tongue.gif
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Loan deferment announcement:

1) PBB - https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

2) HLB - https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...wide-heretohelp

3) CIMB - https://www.cimb.com.my/en/personal/help-su...19-support.html

4) MBB - https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ief_scheme.page

5) UOB - https://www.uob.com.my/default/financial-re...f-measures.page

6) Affin - https://www.affinbank.com.my/NewsDetails.aspx?id=965

7) AmBank - https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/covid-19

8) MBSB - https://www.mbsbbank.com/storage/misc/moratorium_FAQ.pdf

9) OCBC - https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Media/20...um%20period.pdf

10) Agro Bank - https://www.agrobank.com.my/announcements/n...aan-moratorium/

11) BSN - https://www.mybsn.com.my/formdownload?formDownloadId=2212

12) Bank Islam - https://www.bankislam.com/wp-content/uploads/QA.pdf

13) RHB - https://www.rhbgroup.com/covid-19/index.html

14) Standard Charted Bank - https://av.sc.com/my/content/docs/relief-measures.pdf

15) Bank Rakyat - https://www.bankrakyat.com.my/repository/15...HAN%20Final.pdf

16) Bank Muamalat - https://www.muamalat.com.my/announcement/announcement-2/

17) Al-Rajhi - https://www.alrajhibank.com.my/post/importa...inancial-relief

18) HSBC - https://www.hsbc.com.my/content/dam/hsbc/my...ent-measure.pdf
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When we stop paying, not able to reach any customer service at all.

Do we have pay for payment due on first week of April (i.e considered payment for March)?
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RM0.00 MBB/MIB Automatic 6 months moratorium on your Housing Loan/financing (HL) from 1/4/2020.To Opt Out,reply �HLOPTOUT<NO IC>� or www.maybank2u.com
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Eh, so in short, my house loan no need pay for 6 months?
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Does anyone know what about Standing Instructions? Now the SI automatically deduct money from my account. I just leave it empty or how?
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 27 2020, 05:54 PM)
why no Citibank ?
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Does anyone know what about Standing Instructions? Now the SI automatically deduct money from my account. I just leave it empty or how?
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What happens if I manually pay my hire purchase loan during these 6 months, but I didn't opt out from the payment exemption?
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CIMB FAQ says "Interest on conventional loans will not be compounded during the moratorium period. " so if my housing loan at CIMB is conventional loan, so there wont be any extra interest? Meaning i just don have to pay anything from 1st april for 6months then later after 6 months i only pay the same monthly installment? but tenure extend extra 6 months la..

My loan is under ambank(hire purchase), RHB(house loan islamic), CIMB(house loan conventional), Standard Chartered(Personal Loan). So far i see rhb and cimb is interest free, ambank also. but SC dunno

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QUOTE(RVN10 @ Mar 27 2020, 06:15 PM)
When we stop paying, not able to reach any customer service at all.

Do we have pay for payment due on first week of April (i.e considered payment for March)?
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yeah, have thought on this also... since due in first week in april is it consider already start or not?
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QUOTE(jabz @ Mar 27 2020, 08:12 PM)
yeah, have thought on this also... since due in first week in april is it consider already start or not?
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Righfully, whatever loan that is due after 1st April , will be defer. But all my bank officers says otherwise. So i think abit contradict. All mentioned March salary still need to pay. I mean like me my salary end month. So most likely all deduction will only be made afyer 1st April or on the 1st itself.

So really, i giv up and will just pay. Coming april salary only stop paying. Even if we paid, it wont affect the deferment and it wont make u suddenly opt out. As opting out, each bank has its procedure to inform officially. So for those(i think) that just pay, they are included in the automatic deferment.

But u guys wanna take the chance? Easy. Dun pay until u get the classic notification of bank not receiving payment. Not that it will totally ignore u n charge late payment or penalty without giving u notification first right? Hehehe
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QUOTE(jabz @ Mar 27 2020, 04:45 PM)
the one you read for hire purchase is before BNM announcement, dated is 23rd March... the latest one on 26th march will be automatic
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Means i dont have to pay my car loan for 6 months?
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Means i dont have to pay my car loan for 6 months?
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yup. hire purchase will get 6 month
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QUOTE(ridox_orimabu @ Mar 28 2020, 12:23 AM)
Righfully, whatever loan that is due after 1st April , will be defer. But all my bank officers says otherwise. So i think abit contradict. All mentioned March salary still need to pay. I mean like me my salary end month. So most likely all deduction will only be made afyer 1st April or on the 1st itself.

So really, i giv up and will just pay. Coming april salary only stop paying. Even if we paid, it wont affect the deferment and it wont make u suddenly opt out. As opting out, each bank has its procedure to inform officially. So for those(i think) that just pay, they are included in the automatic deferment.

But u guys wanna take the chance? Easy. Dun pay until u get the classic notification of bank not receiving payment. Not that it will totally ignore u n charge late payment or penalty without giving u notification first right? Hehehe
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hahahaha.... yeah, 1 month only... but i also dun wan to take risk... 1 month due plus 6 month moratorium which the 1 month delay will take up late penalty for 6 months
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I want to opt out but the "here" is not clickable. cry.gif
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if non compounded housing loan interest, is it means we just simply defer 6 months and pay same repayment amount until tenure end?
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if non compounded housing loan interest, is it means we just simply defer 6 months and pay same repayment amount until tenure end?
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refer to below:

QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 26 2020, 05:51 AM)
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Refer to this attachment, very clear already.

Hire purchase, no need worry about interest and accrued interest. So just opt in don't reject. You pay same instalment 6 month later and loan extended 6 month

Mortgage, interest will be calculated on daily basis, Yes, with interest on interest. The amount will not be small.. So this one if your monthly repayment only paying less than 40% of the principal, better opt out if you can. Can rack up minimum 6k of interest in 6 month assuming the mortgage balance is above 250k.

After 6 month, there are 2 possibility, either bank allowed you to pay same instalment and extend the repayment period beyond 6 month, and the repayment backtrack to 6 months ago before the moratorium where the payment will allocated more to paid off interest than principle or bank increase the monthly instalment amount to cover for the 6 month accrued interest and repayment structure still backtrack to 6 month ago before moratorium where % paid to interest portion is higher than to principles balance.

Based on Summary on loan info, it look like the latter, instalment amount increases to cover new Balance.
Either way is not good.

BTW, above attachment sources is not from bnm but from uni suite, and the official letter from bnm clearly stated the acrued interest will be calculated and total balance will be adjusted and it look like for all loan not only limited to mortgage. So will need to verify the above source where they get the summary and most importantly which official bnm communication says no interest for hire-purchase as I can't find any online.
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What happens if I manually pay my hire purchase loan during these 6 months, but I didn't opt out from the payment exemption?
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heard that the mono will be cancelled of got payment after 1 Apr, u will then need to pay as usual for the rest of 6 month.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Mar 30 2020, 01:16 AM)
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Thank you done my calculation...interest close to RM 6K. worse case my bank does not automatically allow for 6 months extension. So at the end of maturity need to pay lump sum
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post Apr 1 2020, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Mar 30 2020, 06:56 PM)
Thank you done my calculation...interest close to RM 6K. worse case my bank does not automatically allow for 6 months extension. So at the end of maturity need to pay lump sum
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With latest info I got, bank will extend your repayment by another 6 month and your monthly instalment will increase to cover the interest. 6k extended to few years e.g 30 years is just 30 ringgit extra per month. But it's still extra for the next 30 years. Better opt out if you can help it.
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post Apr 1 2020, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 1 2020, 12:51 AM)
With latest info I got, bank will extend your repayment by another 6 month and your monthly instalment will increase to cover the interest. 6k extended to few years e.g 30 years is just 30 ringgit extra per month. But it's still extra for the next 30 years.  Better opt out if you can help it.
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Which bank you using??

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wanted111who
post Apr 1 2020, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ Apr 1 2020, 01:03 AM)
So its loan extended by 6 month and then installment increase as well???

Not either one of it only?
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Both, cause payment freeze for 6 month (no pay 6 month) so extend it for 6 month make sense. If we paying same amount, then we paying back the original amount without any additional interest, which bank will still charge during the 6 month period, above example is 6k, so +6k will be added to the current loan balance and a new loan balance will be generated with the remaining repayment period which should be the same from Apr 1. We will see increase of monthly repayment.

Unless if bank decided not to charge additional interest.. HSBC originally said will not charge additional interest before bnm announcement (the bank offer as goodwill) but they change their policies after bnm announcement and all will follow bnm guidelines superceded what they come up with before the announcement.
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post Apr 1 2020, 11:23 AM

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Why do CIMB still charge my hire purchase loan as of today even though i did not opt out for the 6 month relief? Tried to call but all their network is down.

Anyone facing the same thing?

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