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koja6049
post Mar 23 2020, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Mar 22 2020, 08:57 PM)
Why dafuq u even care about botak jilat ccp?
Now what more important is vaccine will be coming from where n when. Stop being a detective and viruslogis
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if you know who made the virus,

you'll know who is keeping the vaccines smile.gif
koja6049
post Mar 30 2020, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(George441 @ Mar 28 2020, 08:53 PM)
The US blames china that they spread this damn virus, on the other hand, China blames the US that this virus comes from the US military.
What's the truth?
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we now know that this coronavirus doesn't come from bats nor pangolins, that's for sure smile.gif
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

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koja6049
post Mar 30 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 30 2020, 09:16 AM)
That is merely an opinion piece questioning the origin...
A much more scientific paper (but still a review paper)..:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
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it says nothing though biggrin.gif
koja6049
post Mar 31 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(atilla @ Mar 31 2020, 11:23 AM)
Seems like you don't understand how science works anthat scientific papers are often more nuanced than a simple conclusion 'yes it definitely came from china'.
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that's why science is on the losing end of the information war because it is elitist smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2020, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Mar 31 2020, 07:02 PM)
Not really. It's mainly because anti-intellectualism is strong nowadays. Actually, it's been strong since the beginning.
Only difference is that now, it's gone beyond the political and cultural spectrum and has now started shitting on science and common sense, mainly thanks to religious zealots, flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers, Trump, Zakir Naik, that holywood actress that sells "energizing" vagina rocks, etc.
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you may frame it however you want, but the nett effect is science is losing, unless scientists acknowledges the fact that they fail at communication and engage the experts smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2020, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Mar 31 2020, 07:12 PM)
That has never been the scientist's job. It's been the media's.
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the media doesn't care about science, they care more about ratings. Still is the failure of scientists smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2020, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Mar 31 2020, 07:22 PM)
How is it a failure of scientists when the media reporting them doesn't communicate the results properly? If anything, it's our failure as the people consuming the media. We've lost the ability to form our own informed opinion, which leads back to the media and their disinformation (whether politically or financially motivated), not the scientists.

The WHO has, from the very beginning, expressed the unprecedented danger Covid-19 presents. The media were too busy trying to create conspiracy theories. People couldn't differentiate and continued their social kissing greetings, rave parties, political rallies, masses, tablighs, and now we're in this mess.
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that's why i say this is a net failure. Scientists must buck up their game to win over the media. If science cannot help humanity, then science is useless smile.gif

 

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