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pattleongkam
post Mar 25 2020, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Mar 25 2020, 02:59 PM)
Read properly, that 28:13 below YT video
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its obvious sometimes some people wanna see what people wanna see!!!

just like my usual quote under the spoiler... bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

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This post has been edited by pattleongkam: Mar 25 2020, 03:08 PM
Fanvil1534
post Mar 26 2020, 12:50 AM

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There was a simulation on how to handle a pandemic done few weeks before the outbreak happened.

It is run by:
Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in collaboration with the
World Economic Forum and the
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation


What interest me is Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation as Bill Gates has been the in the fore front of world depopulation by vaccinating the whole world.
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(pattleongkam @ Mar 25 2020, 03:01 PM)
member already state the time line so clealy still you can miss it..

is start at 28:07 to 28:39

hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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ah saw that now; hmm rather disjointed bunch arent they
surprising that they were from the Armed Forces of a proud country such as the US of A biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(pattleongkam @ Mar 25 2020, 03:01 PM)
member already state the time line so clealy still you can miss it..

is start at 28:07 to 28:39

hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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ah saw that now; hmm rather disjointed bunch arent they
surprising that they were from the Armed Forces of a proud country such as the US of A biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Mar 25 2020, 02:59 PM)
Read properly, that 28:13 below YT video
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cool, spotted that now
shabby bunch, by their proud standards
MakcikLum
post Mar 26 2020, 05:07 AM

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No matter where the virus origin from, now is who can quickly come-up with the cure medicine first.
Expert still say need 18 months to test safe woh!! what ? they want more ppl to die, is it ? ranting.gif
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post Mar 26 2020, 10:21 AM

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https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/10...propaganda.html
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post Mar 26 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(MakcikLum @ Mar 26 2020, 05:07 AM)
No matter where the virus origin from, now is who can quickly come-up with the cure medicine first.
Expert still say need 18 months to test safe woh!! what ? they want more ppl to die, is it ?  ranting.gif
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Pakai otak can or not.
Dont know procedure dont bark like fb aunties
Hiv took 20 years only came out a supressant.
3 phase testing.
U think 1 plus 1 isit?
If the vaccine rush out, cause mutation deathrate from 1% to 20% how?

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post Mar 26 2020, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(MakcikLum @ Mar 26 2020, 05:07 AM)
No matter where the virus origin from, now is who can quickly come-up with the cure medicine first.
Expert still say need 18 months to test safe woh!! what ? they want more ppl to die, is it ?  ranting.gif
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They have sets of protocols to follow and do clinical trials on animal then only human. No easy straightforward, different blood types, races, age groups, target groups, etc. Side effects? What if accidentally allow virus to mutate on vaccinated person? That wold be the end game... Not to mention the vaccine methodology, use which part of the virus proteins or mimic it as the subject?
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post Mar 26 2020, 03:45 PM

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Vaccine research can sometimes need 15 years or more....if the vaccine fail if premature release then it is possible the virus mutation into sometimes scarier than now.

No, it did not come from china... Otherwise usa will detected it first, and spread twice the size of china. China propaganda, they want to delete from history.
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post Mar 26 2020, 04:42 PM

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Ok, I got it !! here all US supporters, I shut up & wait for 15 years, & thousand ppl to die everyday world wide !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Mar 27 2020, 09:29 AM

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Coronavirus: Pangolins found to carry related strains

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52048195


Smuggled pangolins have been found to carry viruses closely related to the one sweeping the world.

Scientists say the sale of the animals in wildlife markets should be strictly prohibited to minimise the risk of future outbreaks.

Pangolins are the most-commonly illegally trafficked mammal, used both as food and in traditional medicine.

In research published in the journal Nature, researchers say handling these animals requires "caution".

And they say further surveillance of wild pangolins is needed to understand their role in the risk of future transmission to humans.

Lead researcher Dr Tommy Lam of The University of Hong Kong said two groups of coronaviruses related to the virus behind the human pandemic have been identified in Malayan pangolins smuggled into China.

"Although their role as the intermediate host of the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak remains to be confirmed, sale of these wild animals in wet markets should be strictly prohibited to avoid future zoonotic [animal to human] transmission," he told BBC News

Exactly how the virus jumped from a wild animal, presumably a bat, to another animal and then humans remains a mystery. The horseshoe bat and the pangolin have both been implicated, but the precise sequence of events is unknown.

Finding the virus in smuggled Malayan pangolins raised the question of where they contracted the virus, said Dr Lam. Was it from bats along the trafficking route to China or in their native habitats in Southeast Asia?
Calls to end illegal wildlife trade

Conservationists say it would be devastating if the discovery led to further persecution of the endangered mammal. The animal's scales are in high demand for use in traditional Chinese medicine, while pangolin meat is considered a delicacy.

"This is the time for the international community to pressure their governments to end illegal wildlife trade," said Elisa Panjang of Cardiff University, a pangolin conservation officer at the Danau Girang Field Centre in Malaysia.

China has moved to ban the consumption of meat from wild animals in the wake of the outbreak. Similar moves are being considered in Vietnam.

Prof Andrew Cunningham of Zoological Society of London (ZSL) said it was important not to jump to conclusions from the paper. "The source of the detected coronavirus really is unknown - it might have been a natural pangolin virus or have jumped from another species between capture and death."

And Dr Dan Challender, of the University of Oxford, said pangolins are known to host various strains of coronaviruses. "Identifying the source of SARS-CoV-2 is important to understand the emergence of the current pandemic, and in preventing similar events in the future," he said.
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post Mar 27 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 27 2020, 09:29 AM)
Coronavirus: Pangolins found to carry related strains

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there were many articles on this some weeks back.

i can't remember (or understand all of it) but i think current studies point to:

bats-> pangolins or snakes-> xxx -> humans ->humans

xxx has yet to be identified.

becos chinese and int'l scientists still cannot find this xxx, it is not completely proven that covid19 originated in wuhan/hubei.

it is possible that xxx was something from somewhere else that was brought by a hunter or farmer or visitor from somewhere else.

that's what i understand from these two articles first posted by beastx; no further updates i know of.

enjoy reading:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4899131/+100?hl=beastx#bottom
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 5 2020, 02:51 PM)
Not quite.... as I mentioned, Ebola also evolved to be less deadly...

Also human intervention/quarantine have also shifted the viral (population variant) selection to the less potent of the 2 initial strains (S over L, being less deadly has a greater chance to escape detection).

Reference journal paper:
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 5 2020, 04:19 PM)
Evidence: Closes genome similarity to coronavirus isolated from Bats in China....
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/min...break-s-origins

Genomics and Epidemiology points to the Wuhan origin....
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post Mar 27 2020, 11:27 AM

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People love conspiracy theory biggrin.gif

I shall ask who first came up with this theory? to me it just seems like some Chinese made things up trying to deny virus came from China sweat.gif
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post Mar 27 2020, 01:19 PM

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10 questions for the U.S.: Where did the novel coronavirus come from?
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-03-19/10-qu...SZfa/index.html
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post Mar 28 2020, 04:14 AM

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IMO, It's the battle of ideology, not race.

It's CCP vs the rest of the world free democracy.

You don't see Chinese from Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau said the conspiracy nonsense.

They said it's the damn Communists from Mainland China..wild propaganda and mind control media saying rubbish. biggrin.gif

Again, the CCP admits first... it came from WUHAN! Their own city.. no else did.

Now, because everyone looking at them, they backtrack. tongue.gif
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post Mar 28 2020, 12:33 PM

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What strain in malaysia? Less deadly than Italian?
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post Mar 28 2020, 07:15 PM

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post Mar 28 2020, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 28 2020, 04:14 AM)
IMO, It's the battle of ideology, not race.

It's CCP vs the rest of the world free democracy.

You don't see Chinese from Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau said the conspiracy nonsense.

They said it's the damn Communists from Mainland China..wild propaganda and mind control media saying rubbish.  biggrin.gif

Again, the CCP admits first... it came from WUHAN! Their own city.. no else did.

Now, because everyone looking at them, they backtrack.  tongue.gif
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if an elephant came out from your toilet, you will tell ppl that the elephant came out from your toilet, thats what you see, but what you didnt see is how the elephant get into your toilet.

scientist say the elephant didnt just appeared in your toilet, but just because you said the elephant came out from your toilet 1st, the world have to believe you ?
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post Mar 28 2020, 08:05 PM

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